I am curious why Republicans ignore Trump's wrong doing.

Fantine · Sunday at 5:38 PM

Postvieww said:
This is absolutely false! Too many on the left are clamoring, voting for and supporting just those types. I think someone is confused on where the fascism lies.

In your opinion, it's absolutely false.

Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

Postvieww · Sunday at 9:05 PM

Fantine said:
In your opinion, it's absolutely false.

Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

Some people have too much CNN to form their opinions.

Fantine · Monday at 12:16 AM

I did not get my definitions of communism and socialism from CNN or media.
I got it from 18 years of education, half of them taught by habited Catholic nuns.
From living in 4 different states--one blue, one purple, two bloodshed red--and seeing the terrible injustice in the latter two.
From visiting three different continents and countries with different types of governments, including a desperately poor country where I served in missions.
From extensive reading.
Do you always disparage the beliefs of others?

prodromos · Monday at 1:26 AM

Fantine said:
In your opinion, it's absolutely false.

Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

What are some examples of these "scare tactics" you refer to?

Postvieww · Monday at 5:44 AM

Fantine said:
In your opinion, it's absolutely false.

Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

Like the previous poster I would like to know to which “scare tactics “ you refer?

Fantine said:
Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

Mamdani, Wu, Platner, Sanders, Katie Wilson, Nithya Raman, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are just a few you can ask about socialism and communism. I believe my charge was many of these types are voted for and supported by many on the left . So I give you examples,

Fantine said:
I did not get my definitions of communism and socialism from CNN or media.

If you try to attach “oligarchs and aspiring dictators” to the current administration I do question your sources and beliefs.

Fantine said:
I got it from 18 years of education, half of them taught by habited Catholic nuns.
From living in 4 different states--one blue, one purple, two bloodshed red--and seeing the terrible injustice in the latter two.
From visiting three different continents and countries with different types of governments, including a desperately poor country where I served in missions.
From extensive reading.

Great!

Fantine said:
Do you always disparage the beliefs of others?

I do question and challenge beliefs of others on a public debate forum, that is what we do here.
My beliefs are challenged all the time!

A New Dawn · Monday at 6:43 AM

Fantine said:
In your opinion, it's absolutely false.

Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

I find it completely humorous that you all on the left differentiate socialists and communists from oligarchs and dictators when socialist and communist regimes are run by oligarchs and dictators. Someone putting Americans first in America and getting rid of partisan political policies that don’t benefit America, at large, especially when they have trampled on the Constitutional rights of most Americans, isn’t a dictator, it is someone trying to right the ship before it sinks.

truthuprootsevil · Monday at 4:31 PM

Three words: control - greed - fear

prodromos · Monday at 6:22 PM

truthuprootsevil said:
Three words: control - greed - fear

Democrats are in fear of losing control of the sources fueling their greed.
(not saying some Republicans haven't been profiting as well)

JSRG · Monday at 6:25 PM

A New Dawn said:
CFR.

The rest of your post is a bunch of bunk considering the massive fraud that has been uncovered in the liberal states. Does that mean there is no fraud anywhere else? No, but your post sure suggests that everyone on the left side of the aisle has squeaky clean hands.

What is "CFR"? I have looked through everything in Acronym Finder and nothing seems relevant. Granted, there are 88 things listed so maybe I missed it, but certainly under the "Slang, Chat & Pop Culture" category, nothing seems relevant (Can't Find the Road, Chicken Fried Rice, Candy Fund Raiser, and Custom Flat Ride).

JSRG · Monday at 6:29 PM

Fantine said:
Please read the definitions of socialism and communism and compare them to the scare tactics used by oligarchs and aspiring dictators.

Fantine said:
I did not get my definitions of communism and socialism from CNN or media.
I got it from 18 years of education, half of them taught by habited Catholic nuns.
From living in 4 different states--one blue, one purple, two bloodshed red--and seeing the terrible injustice in the latter two.
From visiting three different continents and countries with different types of governments, including a desperately poor country where I served in missions.
From extensive reading.
Do you always disparage the beliefs of others?

Could you say what you believe are the correct definitions of socialism and communism?

Fantine · Monday at 7:42 PM

Getting this Merriam Webster link took me 5 seconds.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

JSRG · Monday at 8:29 PM

Fantine said:
Getting this Merriam Webster link took me 5 seconds.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Well, that's just socialism, not communism--I would guess you would accept the same source's definition of communism as your definition of communism, but I don't want to assume on that point.

But, focusing on socialism, the definition offered by your link is:

1: any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2:
a: a system of society or of group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism (see communism sense 2c) and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Now, the original claim you made was that "Democrats don't want socialism and communism any more than true conservatives want oligarchy and fascism." Therefore, for the other posters who took issue with this claim, you should do one the following:

1) Demonstrate Democrats want something that falls under these definitions of socialism
OR
2) Explain why the above definitions should be considered incorrect, then offer what you think is the correct definition, and show that Democrats want that

Doing so would likely lead to a more productive discussion on the topic, by ensuring all are on the same page in regards to the definitions.

prodromos · Monday at 8:53 PM

I'm still waiting for an answer on "scare tactics".

A New Dawn · Monday at 9:23 PM

JSRG said:
What is "CFR"? I have looked through everything in Acronym Finder and nothing seems relevant. Granted, there are 88 things listed so maybe I missed it, but certainly under the "Slang, Chat & Pop Culture" category, nothing seems relevant (Can't Find the Road, Chicken Fried Rice, Candy Fund Raiser, and Custom Flat Ride).

You must have missed chat room slang or discussion board slang lists.

Fantine · Monday at 11:31 PM

JSRG said:
Well, that's just socialism, not communism--I would guess you would accept the same source's definition of communism as your definition of communism, but I don't want to assume on that point.

But, focusing on socialism, the definition offered by your link is:

1: any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2:
a: a system of society or of group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism (see communism sense 2c) and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Now, the original claim you made was that "Democrats don't want socialism and communism any more than true conservatives want oligarchy and fascism." Therefore, for the other posters who took issue with this claim, you should do one the following:

1) Demonstrate Democrats want something that falls under these definitions of socialism
OR
2) Explain why the above definitions should be considered incorrect, then offer what you think is the correct definition, and show that Democrats want that

Doing so would likely lead to a more productive discussion on the topic, by ensuring all are on the same page in regards to the definitions.

My time can be spent more productively elsewhere.

Tomorrow night, for example, I will help write postcards for local candidates.

It's an election year. Progressives use sweat equity because their candidates refuse to become beholden to corporate susuperstars.

A New Dawn · Monday at 11:35 PM

Fantine said:
My time can be spent more productively elsewhere.

Tomorrow night, for example, I will help write postcards for local candidates.

It's an election year. Progressives use sweat equity because their candidates refuse to become beholden to corporate susuperstars.

Are susuperstars extra super superstars?

Enquiring minds want to know.

JSRG · Monday at 11:40 PM

Fantine said:
My time can be spent more productively elsewhere.

My request was to others--hence my statement of "for the other posters who took issue with this claim."

Looking again, however, my meaning was a big confusing, as I said "for the other posters who took issue with this claim, you should do one of the following." The "you" in that case was supposed to be in reference to the "other posters" but I suppose the phrasing left it unclear; usage of "they" would have made it more clear. Though I thought the specific suggestions I was making made it more clear they were addressed towards others.

JSRG · Monday at 11:46 PM

A New Dawn said:
You must have missed chat room slang or discussion board slang lists.

Looking for slang lists is not of much use either... Google suggests "Come Find Room" as the most likely one, but that hardly seems to make sense.

Would it not be far more efficient for everyone involved for you to simply define the term? It would have been faster for you to write than the message you made in reply, and it would save everyone else the work of trying to decipher this apparently obscure acronym.

A New Dawn · 2026-06-16T10:16:36-0500

JSRG said:
Looking for slang lists is not of much use either... Google suggests "Come Find Room" as the most likely one, but that hardly seems to make sense.

Would it not be far more efficient for everyone involved for you to simply define the term? It would have been faster for you to write than the message you made in reply, and it would save everyone else the work of trying to decipher this apparently obscure acronym.

It’s not obscure. It means Call For References.

prodromos · 2026-06-16T13:12:53-0500

A New Dawn said:
It’s not obscure. It means Call For References.

I've personally never heard of that acronym.

I am curious why Republicans ignore Trump's wrong doing.

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