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Federal Overreach - Voter Roll Edition

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Judge dismisses DOJ lawsuit over Georgia's voter rolls over lack of jurisdiction.
“Without prejudice”…the Feds can try, try again under a different legal rationale (which would also fail, assuming that the first line was the best shot at getting detailed voter information from the Great State of Georgia.)
 
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How dare they require ID!

What next? ID to:
  • Get a legal job
  • Purchase alcohol
  • Purchase tobacco
  • Get a medical marijuana card
  • rent an apartment
  • rent a hotel room
  • fly on a plane
  • purchase a weapon
  • get a drivers license
  • apply for social security
  • apply for snap
  • apply for Medicare
  • apply for Medicaid
  • apply for section 8 housing
  • apply to go to school
  • Get a bank account
  • apply for a credit card
  • apply for a loan
  • get auto insurance
Good thing ID's are not required for those - how else would the poor be able to survive!
None of these are Constitutional rights.
 
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Oh and also Social Security (Fed Government) already has SS# (they are the ones who assign them) and DOB - so the fed's already have that info
And the good news is that DOGE leaked it already (but at least they didn't find any fraud).
 
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Ohio gives voter data to DOJ as Trump administration sues other states

The requested information includes voters' full name, date of birth, address, driver's license number and the last four digits of their Social Security number​

[An OH Sec State] LaRose spokesperson said Ohio determined that the DOJ had the authority to make this request.

LaRose's letter came weeks before the DOJ sued five more states that haven't shared their voter rolls, bringing the total number of lawsuits to 30.

states that haven't complied − led by Republicans and Democrats − believe the request poses privacy concerns. Federal judges in Michigan, California and Oregon dismissed lawsuits filed by the DOJ, saying states aren't required to hand over unredacted voter data.
 
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A federal judge dismisses another DOJ lawsuit seeking voter data, this time in Massachusetts

The ruling from U.S. District Court Judge Leo Sorokin marks at least the fifth time [MI, CA, OR and GA (though the last has been refiled in the right city)] a judge has rejected similar attempts by the Justice Department. Sorokin, an appointee of former President Barack Obama, said the U.S. attorney general’s office did not take the necessary steps required to access voter rolls, as outlined in federal law.

“Put simply, the statute requires a statement of why the Attorney General demands production of the requested records,” Sorokin wrote. That statement has to be factual, “not just a conceivable or possible basis.”

The Justice Department has sued at least 30 states and the District of Columbia seeking to force release of the data, which includes dates of birth, addresses, driver’s license numbers and partial Social Security numbers.

At least 12 states have either provided or promised to provide their detailed voter registration lists to the department, according to the Brennan Center: Alaska, Arkansas, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
 
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A federal judge dismisses another DOJ lawsuit seeking voter data, this time in Massachusetts

The ruling from U.S. District Court Judge Leo Sorokin marks at least the fifth time [MI, CA, OR and GA (though the last has been refiled in the right city)] a judge has rejected similar attempts by the Justice Department. Sorokin, an appointee of former President Barack Obama, said the U.S. attorney general’s office did not take the necessary steps required to access voter rolls, as outlined in federal law.

“Put simply, the statute requires a statement of why the Attorney General demands production of the requested records,” Sorokin wrote. That statement has to be factual, “not just a conceivable or possible basis.”

The Justice Department has sued at least 30 states and the District of Columbia seeking to force release of the data, which includes dates of birth, addresses, driver’s license numbers and partial Social Security numbers.

At least 12 states have either provided or promised to provide their detailed voter registration lists to the department, according to the Brennan Center: Alaska, Arkansas, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
Someone should get the NRA in on this. They've been fighting against a registry of US citizens for a while now, seems they'd also oppose this kind of thing too.

-- A2SG, enemy of my enemy and all that....
 
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Someone should get the NRA in on this. They've been fighting against a registry of US citizens for a while now, seems they'd also oppose this kind of thing too.

-- A2SG, enemy of my enemy and all that....
Funny how fast the NRA learned how to “play ball”, huh?
 
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Funny how fast the NRA learned how to “play ball”, huh?

After the name change to National Russian Association, they have become more responsive to demands.
 
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Postal Service won’t deliver mail ballots for states that don’t hand over voter lists, under plan for Trump directive



State election officials could soon face a stark choice: Hand over voter lists to the Trump administration or risk losing Postal Service delivery for mail-in ballots.

That dilemma stems from newly proposed USPS rules that seek to comply with an executive order President Donald Trump signed this spring to crack down on mail-in voting. If courts let the order stand, it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections — and could put even more voter data in the hands of Trump officials searching for supposed election fraud.
 
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Postal Service won’t deliver mail ballots for states that don’t hand over voter lists, under plan for Trump directive



State election officials could soon face a stark choice: Hand over voter lists to the Trump administration or risk losing Postal Service delivery for mail-in ballots.

That dilemma stems from newly proposed USPS rules that seek to comply with an executive order President Donald Trump signed this spring to crack down on mail-in voting. If courts let the order stand, it would give the federal government an unprecedented role in elections — and could put even more voter data in the hands of Trump officials searching for supposed election fraud.
Surely that has to be illegal. I hope this gets adjudicated before the elections.
 
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Surely that has to be illegal. I hope this gets adjudicated before the elections.
I don't know if this is part of the issue or not.

Supreme Court rules the Postal Service can’t be sued, even when mail is intentionally not delivered

 
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I don't know if this is part of the issue or not.

Supreme Court rules the Postal Service can’t be sued, even when mail is intentionally not delivered

A preliminary ruling by a Trump appointed judge. He knows it's unwarranted, but I don't know, I guess he ruled we have to wait till the damage is done before striking it down.
U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, a Trump appointee in Washington, late Wednesday rejected the request by Democrats and civil rights groups that had argued Trump’s order would likely be found unconstitutional because the states and Congress, not the president, have the power to set election rules. Nichols agreed with the Republican Trump administration’s contention that it was too early to block the order because it has yet to be implemented.
 
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I don't know if this is part of the issue or not.

Supreme Court rules the Postal Service can’t be sued, even when mail is intentionally not delivered

I don't think that ruling applies - they're not suing for non-delivery of mail, but rather because they argue that the policy is unconstitutional.
 
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