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Ukrainian official calls for Russian church to be expelled from World Council of Churches

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A senior Ukrainian government official has called for the Russian Orthodox Church to be expelled from the World Council of Churches, saying its conduct during the war in Ukraine violated the foundational principles of Christianity.

Viktor Yelensky, head of Ukraine’s State Service for Freedom of Conscience, made the demand at a seminar organized by the Collège des Bernardins, a Catholic research center in Paris, according to the Church Times.

He said the WCC, a Geneva-based ecumenical body whose 356 member denominations represent some 580 million Christians worldwide, should “exclude the Russian Church from membership since its activities directly contradict the fundamental principles of Christianity.”

Yelensky said the Moscow Patriarchate was “an enemy of both religious freedom and Ukraine” that sought to suppress religious expression and destroy Ukrainian statehood, culture and identity.

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If all the Eastern Orthodox churches are in communion with each other, how would that work? They just don’t recognize the Russians? I know there was a schism a few years back, and I’m confused how it affects their entire Church.

Anyone know?
 
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Michie said:
A senior Ukrainian government official has called for the Russian Orthodox Church to be expelled from the World Council of Churches, saying its conduct during the war in Ukraine violated the foundational principles of Christianity.
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The so called "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" should equally be expelled for its conduct towards the canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine prior to the conflict. What a hypocrite this government official is.
 
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RileyG said:
If all the Eastern Orthodox churches are in communion with each other, how would that work? They just don’t recognize the Russians? I know there was a schism a few years back, and I’m confused how it affects their entire Church.

Anyone know?
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Only a few patriarchates recognise the so called "Ukrainian Orthodox Church". Unfortunately this mess has been exacerbated by the Ecumenical Patriarch playing politics, and I say that as someone who is under the jurisdiction of the E.P.
 
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prodromos said:
Only a few patriarchates recognise the so called "Ukrainian Orthodox Church". Unfortunately this mess has been exacerbated by the Ecumenical Patriarch playing politics, and I say that as someone who is under the jurisdiction of the E.P.
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I’m confused. Which one is canonical and which one is not?
 
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prodromos said:
The so called "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" should equally be expelled for its conduct towards the canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine prior to the conflict. What a hypocrite this government official is.
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What do you mean by so called? Can you elaborate please?

God bless
 
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The canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine is under the Moscow Patriarchate. There were two schismatic churches in Ukraine which the Ecumenical Patriarch accepted under his jurisdiction, totally in violation of church canons. No repentance. No attempt at reconciliation with the Moscow Patriarchate. They have been working in concert with Ukraine's government to expel Orthodox Christians under the MP from their churches, kicking monks and nuns from their monasteries, and taking over the properties, all illegally.
 
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RileyG said:
If all the Eastern Orthodox churches are in communion with each other, how would that work? They just don’t recognize the Russians? I know there was a schism a few years back, and I’m confused how it affects their entire Church.

Anyone know?
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The WCC doesn't have anything to do with Orthodox Church structure. From my understanding, the Moscow Patriarchate's participation in the WCC is mostly to act as a check on the Ecumenical Patriarchate's representation of Orthodoxy to the organization; ideally, the Orthodox would not participate at all, because there are not actually a multitude of "churches" that need to have a council, there's only one Church and the only "dialogue" it should hold with those outside it should be direct, tangible, realistic efforts to resolve schisms, not affirming their errors and promoting religious indifferentism, which is what the WCC actually does. This is why Rome isn't technically a member of the WCC, although they do have a "joint working group" that acts as a means of participating in it.

If the WCC did kick out the Moscow Patriarchate, the result could be that the MP just wouldn't participate in WCC activities anymore, or maybe they'd set up a joint working group like the RC one.
 
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prodromos said:
The canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine is under the Moscow Patriarchate. There were two schismatic churches in Ukraine which the Ecumenical Patriarch accepted under his jurisdiction, totally in violation of church canons. No repentance. No attempt at reconciliation with the Moscow Patriarchate. They have been working in concert with Ukraine's government to expel Orthodox Christians under the MP from their churches, kicking monks and nuns from their monasteries, and taking over the properties, all illegally.
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But if it’s under the ecumenical patriarchs jurisdiction, how are they schismatic then? I’m a little confused.

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jas3 said:
The WCC doesn't have anything to do with Orthodox Church structure. From my understanding, the Moscow Patriarchate's participation in the WCC is mostly to act as a check on the Ecumenical Patriarchate's representation of Orthodoxy to the organization; ideally, the Orthodox would not participate at all, because there are not actually a multitude of "churches" that need to have a council, there's only one Church and the only "dialogue" it should hold with those outside it should be direct, tangible, realistic efforts to resolve schisms, not affirming their errors and promoting religious indifferentism, which is what the WCC actually does. This is why Rome isn't technically a member of the WCC, although they do have a "joint working group" that acts as a means of participating in it.

If the WCC did kick out the Moscow Patriarchate, the result could be that the MP just wouldn't participate in WCC activities anymore, or maybe they'd set up a joint working group like the RC one.
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Thanks for the response! God bless!
 
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