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All Becomes New said:
I get it, you hate Jews
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I have some very good friends who are Jews.
All Becomes New said:
so you imagine the Apostles completely turned their backs on their Jewish identity.
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What do you think Paul meant by the following:

To those outside the law I became as one outside the law—not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ—that I might win those outside the law.​
 
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prodromos said:
I asked you the following:
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Would you like me to give you OTHER quotes that demonstrate Chrysostom was antisemitic? Are all of them taken out of context?

You want to say "hate doesn't really mean hate," But this denies the context in which the words were written. Why would he include "all the more" if it was just that he simply did not prefer the Jews? In fact, even that is backwards, as God DOES prefer the Jews. So the argument does not get off the ground in the first place.

Now, you would say something about Christians becoming Jews or something. But there has got to be a better way of shepherding your people than to slander the synagogues and such. It is literally the oldest conspiracy theory in the world that the Jews are evil or whatever. It has a deep history in Christianity, and Christians have historically treated the Jews very badly. Would you excuse this behavior, or would you own it?
 
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prodromos said:
What do you think Paul meant by the following:

To those outside the law I became as one outside the law—not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ—that I might win those outside the law.
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I think it's the same thing as when he said, "I became all things to all people so that I might win some." Nothing about discontinuing keeping Jewish customs. Read Romans 14. It does not mean that Messianic Jews cannot identify with being Jewish. If you think it does, that means you have a skewed view of Christianity and have essentially tried to steal Jewish followers of Jesus from their heritage.
 
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All Becomes New said:
It's plain. Paul offered a sacrifice in the temple after taking a nazarite vow.
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Setting aside the fact that the verse says nothing about making a sacrifice, even if it explicitly said what you claim it does, that's a far cry from saying Paul continued to observe Jewish rituals for the rest of his life, and it's not evidence that any of the other apostles did, either.
I find it unlikely that the men who were accused even when our Lord was with them of not observing ritual washings and the Sabbath, and who taught that there are no unclean meats, and that if you accept circumcision Christ is of no benefit to you, and (over and over) that we are not under the Law, believed themselves to be exceptions to what they taught.
 
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