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Heterosexual relationships have a function for reproducing the species and for creating the nuclear family.

Do you really believe the objection has anything to do with the relationships' capacity for procreation?

Viewing the presentation of LGBTQ material to children as unhealthy does not mean there is hatred toward individuals involved.

Yeah, absent any other context, that's probably true. But that's not really how it shakes out.

The activists apparently feel otherwise, as they have an entirely different agenda.
Most activists do.
 
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Do you really believe the objection has anything to do with the relationships' capacity for procreation?
I think that when you look at the Bible, those acts that are not directly involved in procreation are those that tend to be described as sexually immoral. Being tied to procreation is basically what gives heterosexuality its claim of normalcy or legitimacy, or whatever you want to call it.
 
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I know people tend to get extremely defensive when you bring up anything being a sin, but being gay seems to hit a nerve with people harder due to the push by society that anyone who opposes it is automatically an evil person. How you share the information with someone depends on who you're approaching. If it's a lost person, you share Jesus first. Focus on God first, then repentance. When it comes to a worldly Christian, focus on scripture that shows this is a sin, and we are called to be outside of the world and not in it.

In both cases, don't force the point. If neither wants to listen, then let it go.
Yep, generally do this sort of thing myself.
But there are some who claim to be Christian who say that there are no Scriptures that oppose any of it, even though the standard ones have been shared with them.
I think when I see people sharing with them and they reject it, they are just not wanting to see the truth.
The devil and the "progressive religion" they are in teaches them otherwise.
It's so sad and sadly can lead others astray.
 
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The unique thing about LGBTQ+ is that there is an activist movement out there to convince everyone that their behavior is completely normal, and not sinful. Which necessitates that they portray Christians who see homosexuality as sinful (as the Bible states) as bigots and haters. Needless to say, I have a problem with that. And when they want to push their culture onto young children in school through the public school system and entertainment companies like Disney or Nickelodeon, that causes more concern.

If the guy next door wants to have a gay lover and/or dress like a woman, I couldn't care less. If he's an adult, he's old enough to make his own decisions. If he's trying to push those views onto children, I have more of a problem with it.

As for Pride Month, I've never understood why anyone should be proud of their sexual orientation. Especially when they always tell us that it isn't a choice, that they were born that way. Love is love? Do they say that about pedophiles too?
Yes, they love to throw the words bigot, hater or phobia around, as if that makes them right on the issue, lol.

Yes, in the last 15+ yrs it's gained too much ground and thus in their eyes makes it all just as normal as anything else.
It's not.

Yesh, the love is love thing is a joke, but when a "love" comes around they they will disagree with, then they'll clutch pearls, but will have no foundation to stand on in reality, though they think they will.
 
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I don't see a month celebrating divorced people, or heterosexual preferences.

Pride Month is a celebration of sexual preferences and same-sex marriage by gay people
and celebration of sexually confused transgender people who think they can change
sex according to the way the feel.

It's being accepted here in MA, I don't know about the rest of the nation,
but my former parish has transgender people doing readings at Mass and
supporters of same sex marriage serving the alter. I wouldn't mind that so much,
but they go to rallies and protests against Catholic teachings on the issue.
Any church that allows that isn't a Church of the God of the Bible.
They are siding with the world instead of God.
 
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ADVISOR HAT

Just a reminder, the Statement of Purpose has this:
Homosexuality, Same-Sex Marriage, Bisexuality and Transgenderism/Transexualism: Discussion of these topics must comply with the sitewide rule barring the promotion of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, bisexuality, and transgenderism/transexualism. Discussion and debate should only be directed toward political, legal, historical and civil rights issues, and should not be directed toward the morality of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, bisexuality or transgenderism/transexualism.
Hi FreeinChrist...
Just now seeing this.
"Discussion and debate should only be directed toward political, legal, historical and civil rights issues, and should not be directed toward the morality of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, bisexuality or transgenderism/transexualism."
So talk only directed at the political, legal, historical, civil rights.....but not directed toward the morality of it?
Why is that?
Talking about things in a Christian group usually touches on the moral aspect
 
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Any attempt of me trying to reach out to share the Gospel is met with hostility, both by them and by society in general. It breaks my heart but I am afraid there is very little we can do to reach those actively partaking in Pride apart from praying God will reach their hearts and that our message may still echoe within them, after all, the path they are on won't lead to a fulfilled life.
 
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Hi FreeinChrist...
Just now seeing this.
"Discussion and debate should only be directed toward political, legal, historical and civil rights issues, and should not be directed toward the morality of homosexuality, same-sex marriage, bisexuality or transgenderism/transexualism."
So talk only directed at the political, legal, historical, civil rights.....but not directed toward the morality of it?
Why is that?
Talking about things in a Christian group usually touches on the moral aspect
It does specifically say that the site policy bars the promotion of homosexuality, etc., so I gather that what you quoted above has to be viewed in that context.
 
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Any attempt of me trying to reach out to share the Gospel is met with hostility, both by them and by society in general. It breaks my heart but I am afraid there is very little we can do to reach those actively partaking in Pride apart from praying God will reach their hearts and that our message may still echoe within them, after all, the path they are on won't lead to a fulfilled life.

God is always able no matter the obstacle!!!
 
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Yes, they love to throw the words bigot, hater or phobia around, as if that makes them right on the issue, lol.

Yes, in the last 15+ yrs it's gained too much ground and thus in their eyes makes it all just as normal as anything else.
It's not.
I think one reason it's gained so much ground is that it gets mixed up with the idea that some people have bullied LGBTQ people. I certainly have never approved of that. I remember when I was in school, there was a lot of talk about "beating up" gay people and whatnot, and I was always like why don't you just leave them alone? The funny thing is, it turned out that the people who bullied the gay people the most, actually turned out to be homosexuals themselves. Maybe they were targeting a part of themselves they hated or something, I don't know. Of course bullying is wrong, and no one should be bullied. But that doesn't mean these lifestyles should be pushed onto the culture, and especially not the children.

The other reason is that some pander to "victim groups" because they see political advantage in it.
 
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How do you share the truth about this month, this issue with the lost or christians who listen to the world instead of the Holy Spirit?


Anyone else have anything to say about how you share the truth with the lost.....or christians who listen to the world on this topic instead of the Holy Spirit?
 
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