SCOTUS' conservative majority makes a surprise decision

tobelieveinHim said:

Yes, That is how it currently, or previously worked..

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No, that isn't how it worked. Everyone that lived in the Congressional District was able to vote, regardless of race. It is just that the communities in question had a majority of Black people.

tobelieveinHim said:

Exactly... So, Republican black voices are not heard.

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No, they counted just as much as any other Black persons voice. Instead, what is going to happen is that (by your claims) no Democratic Black person's voice will be heard -- they'll be drowned out in a "White Republican" district. Not to mention, there will be zero Democratic Congresspersons from the entire state -- so all the Democrats of any race will have their voices silenced.

tobelieveinHim said:

No, This bill is preventing that from happening, going forward..

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There is no bill, merely a Supreme Court ruling that decided the law no longer needs to be followed. I recall when Republican's hated when judges "legislated from the bench." Suddenly they now love it.

tobelieveinHim said:

Currently, it is preventing black conservative voices from being heard.

Whichever the majority in that district voted for, Should stay that way. They should not be moved to a different district.

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And yet, all the Black people will be moved to districts that have White majorities. It will be all Blacks whose voices are silenced.

SimplyMe said:

No, that isn't how it worked. Everyone that lived in the Congressional District was able to vote, regardless of race. It is just that the communities in question had a majority of Black people.

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No,

SimplyMe said:

No, they counted just as much as any other Black persons voice. Instead, what is going to happen is that (by your claims) no Democratic Black person's voice will be heard -- they'll be drowned out in a "White Republican" district. Not to mention, there will be zero Democratic Congresspersons from the entire state -- so all the Democrats of any race will have their voices silenced.

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No.

SimplyMe said:

There is no bill, merely a Supreme Court ruling that decided the law no longer needs to be followed. I recall when Republican's hated when judges "legislated from the bench." Suddenly they now love it.

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The people won't be moved, but whoever was voted into that district, should stay in that district. Nobody should come in and remove an elected official from that district.

SimplyMe said:

And yet, all the Black people will be moved to districts that have White majorities. It will be all Blacks whose voices are silenced.

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tobelieveinHim said:

No,

No.

The people won't be moved, but whoever was voted into that district, should stay in that district. Nobody should come in and remove an elected official from that district.

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One of us is confused.

tobelieveinHim said:

No,

No.

The people won't be moved, but whoever was voted into that district, should stay in that district. Nobody should come in and remove an elected official from that district.

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Let's try this, this is the map of Louisana's Congressional map that the Supreme Court recently ruled on, the ruling that basically demolished the Voting Rights Act:


Could you please point out the two districts where only Black people get to vote -- and also inform me which district the White People that live in that Black area would vote in?

As I stated earlier, the "Black Districts" are no different than any other districts, other than they have a majority of Black voters -- though everyone that lives in the district boundaries has the same vote.

SimplyMe said:

Let's try this, this is the map of Louisana's Congressional map that the Supreme Court recently ruled on, the ruling that basically demolished the Voting Rights Act:
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Could you please point out the two districts where only Black people get to vote -- and also inform me which district the White People that live in that Black area would vote in?

As I stated earlier, the "Black Districts" are no different than any other districts, other than they have a majority of Black voters -- though everyone that lives in the district boundaries has the same vote.

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If a district voted in an elected official, The government should not be able to then come in, and displace that elected official to another district.
The elected official should remain where they were voted for.

It's shady, politics that the Democrats started, and it ought to be fixed!
That's all i have to say.

tobelieveinHim said:

If a district voted in an elected official, The government should not be able to then come in, and displace that elected official to another district.

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Which government is doing this? The state governments.

Elected officials are not displaced to another district, but the next time the elections are held officials are either reelected or not. Sometimes, districts will no longer exist - in which case, who would the official be representing - and in other cases, new districts are formed.

tobelieveinHim said:

The elected official should remain where they were voted for.

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They do until the next election when they may or may not be voted for.

tobelieveinHim said:

It's shady, politics that the Democrats started, and it ought to be fixed!

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Gerrymandering is shady. The question is how to fix it. As for who started it, don't be naive - it's been around before these parties existed.

tobelieveinHim said:

That's all i have to say.

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Hm.

tobelieveinHim said:

If a district voted in an elected official, The government should not be able to then come in, and displace that elected official to another district.
The elected official should remain where they were voted for.

It's shady, politics that the Democrats started, and it ought to be fixed!
That's all i have to say.

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The debate is limited to US House districts.