Proof For The Islamic Faith Christianity Is The True Faith

TyreeceR24 said:

The God Who Appeared To Moses on Mount Siani

The God Who Appeared To Moses on Mount Sinai

Proof For Islam Christianity Is True

Proof For The Islamic Faith Christianity Is The True Faith

#1) Jesus Said He Was God Almighty In Revelation 1:8

#2) Jesus Said He Was The Son of God [John 5:25] [John 9:35] [John 10:36] [John 19:7] [Matthew 27:42-43] [Revelation 2:18]

#3) Jesus Is Worshipped During His Ministry on Earth in Various Passages But Jesus Is Now Being Worshipped In Heaven [Revelation 5:8-14]

#4) Jesus Said He Would Be Crucified [Matthew 20:18-19] [Matthew 26:2]

#5) Jesus Confirmed His Crucifixion and Resurrection [Revelation 1:7] [Revelation 1:18]

#6) Jesus Is At The Right Hand of God [Matthew 26:64] [Mark 14:62] [Luke 22:69] [Revelation 3:21]

#7) The Archangel Gabriel Called Jesus Christ Lord [Luke 2:9]

#8) According To Jesus There Is No More Scripture After The Book of Revelation. In The Book of Revelation 22:18-19, Jesus Is The Speaker Because In Context Jesus Is "He Who Testifies" And The Apostle John Ends The Book With The Grace of Jesus Christ Be With You All

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Thanks, useful indeed .. one minor correction IMHO: Rev 1:8 refers to God the Father so item 1) can't be used

Reluctant Theologian said:

Thanks, useful indeed .. one minor correction IMHO: Rev 1:8 refers to God the Father so item 1) can't be used

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Yet two related verses, Revelation 1:11 and Revelation 1:17, are indeed Jesus Christ speaking:

(Rev 1:11) saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."

(Rev 1:17) And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, "Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.

I would say that Revelation 1:8 at least includes Jesus Christ, Who is fully God as well as fully Man.

TyreeceR24 said:

In The Context of Revelation Chapter 1:8, Jesus is The Speaker Because He Says He The Alpha and Omega In Revelation 1:8 But Then Repeats Saying He Is The Alpha and Omega In Revelation 1:11.

"I Am The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End", says The Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, The Almighty" [Revelation 1:8]

"Saying, I Am The Alpha and The Omega, The First and The Last," and, "What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: To Ephesus, To Smyrna, To Pergamos, To Thyatira, To Sardis, To Philadelphia, and To Laodicea" [Revelation 1:11]

In Context of Revelation Chapter 1, Jesus is the speaker from verse 8 to verse 20

But Even If People Believe Revelation 1:8 Is God The Father Speaking, Jesus Christ Claims The Titles of God The Father In Revelation 22:13

In Revelation Chapter 1:8, The Speaker Rather you believe its The Father or Jesus claims The Titles of Alpha/Omega/Beginning/End/Almighty

Jesus would then be The Almighty because he says in Revelation 22:13, what the speaker in Revelation 1:8 claims

"I Am The Alpha and The Omega, The Beginning and The End, The First and The Last" [Revelation 22:13]

This would make Jesus The Almighty in Revelation 22:13, based off the titles the speaker of Revelation 1:8 states of Alpha and Omega/Beginning and End/First and Last/The Almighty

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You may have noticed the beginning of Rev 1:11 you're quoting (I Am The Alpha and The Omega, The First and The Last) is missing among the main oldest manuscripts; for that reason modern Bible translations (using the latest textual criticism findings) don't have this phrase (e.g. among others ESV, LSB).

Revelation 1:4 contains an enumeration with three distinct 'froms':

• the One who is and who was and who is to come
• the seven Spirits who are before His throne
• Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth

Based on this observation alone we can conclude the first from cannot be the third from, and thus it is evident the first from is God the Father. Revelation 1:6 ( .. 'priests to His God and Father' .. ) presents God the Father as the God of Jesus (think about the implications of that).

Revelation 1:7 is a quote from Zechariah 12:10 .. but the narrator is still John as his proclamation ends with 'Yes, Amen' in verse 7

Then in Revelation 1:8 the narration comes from God the Father as the identical phrase 'the One who is and who was and who is to come' from verse 1 can be inferred to refer to only God the Father. The phrases 'Lord God' (Greek: 'kyrios ho theos') and 'Almighty' (Greek: 'pantokrator') have special significance:

In the book of Revelation the Greek word 'pantokrator' (almighty) occurs 9 (!) times and in all these occurrences it refers to God the Father only (Revelation 4:8, Revelation 11:17, Revelation 15:3, Revelation 16:7, Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:6, Revelation 19:15, Revelation 21:22).

In all of the rest of the NT the Greek word 'pantokrator' (almighty) occurs only once in 2 Corinthians 6:18 and also refers to God the Father:

'And I will be a father to you,
And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,'
says the Lord Almighty (Greek: 'kyrios pantokrator')

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The verse seems to be a compilation of OT/TNK verses and themes.

Nowhere in the entire NT is the Greek word 'pantokrator' applied to Jesus.

In the Greek translation of the OT/TNK (the 'LXX') that was in use at the time of writing of the book of Revelation the word 'pantokrator' is used exclusively for YHWH / the God of Israel (it occurs many times).

In Revelation the phrase 'Alpha and Omega / First and Last' indeed is used for both - Jesus is the One sent by God the Father; he came from/out-of the Father. He acts with His authority - so yes, titles and even His name can be given to Him:

• God the Father - Revelation 1:8, Revelation 21:6 (in that section Jesus is 'the Lamb')
• Jesus - Revelation 1:17-18 (' .. and I was dead .. '), Revelation 22:13

Given the points the above it seems straightforward Revelation 1:8 refers to God the Father; presenting this verse to a Muslim as a first 'evidence' Jesus is God Almighty will probably result in a lost battle before actual discourse starts as a careful Islamic reader of Revelation would likely quickly point out these observations.

The view that Revelation 1:8 refers to God the Father is the mainstream Christian theological by the way.

Mission to Muslims is very important - I love it - we should be careful in what arguments to deploy.

Be blessed .. !