Pray by saying, "In Jesus Christ's Name & By The Power & Grace Of The Holy Spirit, we Rebuke the extreme effects of the El Nino weather pattern, & Declare that it will be Drastically Mitigated so that there will be Mild weather conditions all over the world":
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Pray by saying, "In Jesus Christ's Name & By The Power & Grace Of The Holy Spirit, we Rebuke the extreme effects of the El Nino weather pattern, & Dec
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I have to say that I wrestle with the question of praying against large weather events. How can you know what God's will is and what the consequences will be? If you look only at the event, they do have potential for human suffering. If you look at the aftermath, sometimes you see flailing people clinging to God as the event profoundly puts more of God in people's lives.
Here is a historical article detailing the Protestant response to the dust bowl in the USA. The Dust Bowl, the Depression, and American Protestant Responses to Environmental Devastation | Church History | Cambridge Core
Is it Satan only causing events and God restoring many after it is over? Or is God actively taking part in events such as Noah's flood, knowing that the human condition is so far gone that only such drastic measures can allow the human race to even survive?
I will say too, that in Hebrews 11, "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith."
Did Noah have faith that he could pray against the coming flood? No he had faith to prepare. Did Joseph and Mary have faith that Jesus could survive the genocide of male babies in those times, or was their faith in relocating based on revelation they received? I am not saying the promises of God do not extend to individual believers, or that intercessory prayer is not a powerful tool to mitigate the effects of harmful events. But how far this goes is ultimately God's will and perhaps can only be prayed or declared to be changed by God and the faith that he gives to believers that hear his voice. I certainly mean no harm in airing my thoughts on such an important topic. I applaud anonymous9090 for the zeal, devotion and faith to bring up these concerns to our attention. Usually I can pray right along with no reservation, but sometimes I personally can just pray God's will or such weighty events.
Here is a historical article detailing the Protestant response to the dust bowl in the USA. The Dust Bowl, the Depression, and American Protestant Responses to Environmental Devastation | Church History | Cambridge Core
Is it Satan only causing events and God restoring many after it is over? Or is God actively taking part in events such as Noah's flood, knowing that the human condition is so far gone that only such drastic measures can allow the human race to even survive?
I will say too, that in Hebrews 11, "By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith."
Did Noah have faith that he could pray against the coming flood? No he had faith to prepare. Did Joseph and Mary have faith that Jesus could survive the genocide of male babies in those times, or was their faith in relocating based on revelation they received? I am not saying the promises of God do not extend to individual believers, or that intercessory prayer is not a powerful tool to mitigate the effects of harmful events. But how far this goes is ultimately God's will and perhaps can only be prayed or declared to be changed by God and the faith that he gives to believers that hear his voice. I certainly mean no harm in airing my thoughts on such an important topic. I applaud anonymous9090 for the zeal, devotion and faith to bring up these concerns to our attention. Usually I can pray right along with no reservation, but sometimes I personally can just pray God's will or such weighty events.
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Just FYI,
Abraham's Intercession for Sodom and Gomorrah
This is one of the most profound and moving passages in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, found in Genesis 18:16-33. It is a masterclass in respectful, humble, yet persistent negotiation/advocacy.The Narrative Context
- God reveals to Abraham His intention to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah due to their great wickedness
- Abraham's nephew Lot and his family reside in Sodom
- Abraham, deeply concerned, approaches God in an extraordinarily deferential yet bold manner
| Abraham's Plea | God's Response |
|---|---|
| "Will you spare it for 50 righteous?" | Yes |
| "What about 45?" | Yes |
| "What about 40?" | Yes |
| "What about 30?" | Yes |
| "What about 20?" | Yes |
| "Please don't be angry... what about 10?" | Yes |
- Abraham repeatedly acknowledges his unworthiness: "I am nothing but dust and ashes" (Gen 18:27)
- He appeals to God's own divine justice: "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" (Gen 18:25) - arguably one of the most powerful rhetorical questions in all of scripture
- He stops at 10, perhaps assuming Lot's immediate family would constitute that number
- His tone is consistently conciliatory, deferential, and non-confrontational throughout
Theological Significance This passage is foundational in establishing the concept of intercessory prayer across Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, demonstrating that righteous advocacy on behalf of others is not only permitted but honored by God.
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