Modern Day Antinomianism.

Aussie52 · May 8, 2026

Antinomianism is not a subject one usually encounters with others after Church on Sunday. Although as old as the Apostle Paul, it is very common amongst Christians today. From the Latin, Antinomian means 'without law'. Simply stated, the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God. It is a Christianity without any obligations.
'This error stems from a misunderstanding of the sanctifying power of grace. Though the person guilty of Antinomianism rightly understands that when we come to God for salvation, he accepts us the way we are, they also wrongly think that God is content to leave us that way. The Antinomian Christian is so enamored by the free grace of God; they abandon the hot pursuit of practical holiness. The result is Christians that are spiritually immature, living in the flesh, with one foot in the world and the other in the Church'. (From an internet article. Author unknown)
Today there are doctrines and teachings that encourage antinomianism.

* The teaching of 'standing and state' of the Christian. Popularized by C I Scofield, the Christian is said to have a 'standing' of being holy & righteous in Christ even though his 'state' is something quite different. It is God wearing 'rose tinted' glasses, seeing us other than we really are. This teaching tends cause Christians to be spiritually careless and carnal, all the while believing that in their 'standing', they are right with God.

*Closely aligned with this is the doctrine of imputed righteousness so popular today. Believing they are 'covered in the righteousness of Christ', that God views them through who Jesus is, this can easily become an impediment to practical holy living.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

Jude spoke of those of who turn the grace of God into sinful practices. Paul wrote, 'shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid' Rom 6: 1.
Modern day antinomianism allows and justifies continuing in a life of sin.

God has called the Church to a holiness, 'without which no one will see the Lord'. Heb 12:14.

BobRyan · May 9, 2026

On a similar note...

Antinomianism, definition and a Question "is this you"?

The Bible says to obey the Word of God 1 Cor 7:19 what matters is keeping the Commandments of God John 14:15 Love Me and KEEP My Commandments Ex 20:6 Love Me and KEEP My Commandments Rev 14:12 the saints KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus 1 John 5:3 this IS the LOVE of God...

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Aussie52 · May 9, 2026

BobRyan said:
On a similar note...

Antinomianism, definition and a Question "is this you"?

The Bible says to obey the Word of God 1 Cor 7:19 what matters is keeping the Commandments of God John 14:15 Love Me and KEEP My Commandments Ex 20:6 Love Me and KEEP My Commandments Rev 14:12 the saints KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus 1 John 5:3 this IS the LOVE of God...

www.christianforums.com

I was unaware of your thread on the subject. Very good. You certainly flushed out the 'antinomians'!

BobRyan · May 10, 2026

2 Pet 1:9 For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.
1 John 1:9 IF we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins AND to cleans us from all unrighteouness

1. you can't confess any sin you have not yet committed. You can't repent "turn from " bad behavior you have not yet entered in to.
2. 2 Peter 1 shows forgiveness of past sins.
3. "cleanse us from all unrighteousness" is a present ongoing process of sanctification. Heb 12 tells us "pursue sanctification" without which no one will see the Lord.

"as you have RECEIVED Christ Jesus, SO WALK in Him" Col 2
6 Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, 7 having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.

And at the same time we have Rom 5:1 regarding justification PAST
Rom 5:1 having BEEN justified by faith WE HAVE peace with God.

In 1 Cor 6 Paul confirms that he is writing to a church with defects.

7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.

Paul reminds them that walking in rebellion and wickedness does not result in "more heaven"

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Then he points to real salvation, real gospel freedom that has taken place, real justification past,

11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

WE begin lost, only the sinful nature is present. We need a miracle, God Himself must cleanse us

1 Cor 6 "such were some of you but you were cleansed"

The lost sinner does not first "clean himself up" and then is born again, then becomes a new creation, the old man of sin cannot do that miracle.

Rom 8 says the lost sinner "does not submit to the Law of God neither indeed CAN he" Rom 8:
He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The miracle of the New Birth takes place in response to our choice to repent and confess

But first the miracle of repentance and confession takes place in the heart of the lost sinner as he/she chooses to respond to the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit on the conscience "convicting the WORLD of sin and righteousness and judgment" John 16

THEN the old man is the "new man" of 2 Cor 5, the GOOD tree of Matt 7 that by the power of the Holy Spirit is the New Creation, the New man, the good tree that produces good fruit.

The fruit does not change a bad tree to a good one. Rather God changes the tree to a good one and the good tree produces good fruit in Matt 7

NewLifeInChristJesus · May 13, 2026

Jeff Carr said:
Antinomianism is not a subject one usually encounters with others after Church on Sunday. Although as old as the Apostle Paul, it is very common amongst Christians today. From the Latin, Antinomian means 'without law'. Simply stated, the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God. It is a Christianity without any obligations.
'This error stems from a misunderstanding of the sanctifying power of grace. Though the person guilty of Antinomianism rightly understands that when we come to God for salvation, he accepts us the way we are, they also wrongly think that God is content to leave us that way. The Antinomian Christian is so enamored by the free grace of God; they abandon the hot pursuit of practical holiness. The result is Christians that are spiritually immature, living in the flesh, with one foot in the world and the other in the Church'. (From an internet article. Author unknown)
Today there are doctrines and teachings that encourage antinomianism.

* The teaching of 'standing and state' of the Christian. Popularized by C I Scofield, the Christian is said to have a 'standing' of being holy & righteous in Christ even though his 'state' is something quite different. It is God wearing 'rose tinted' glasses, seeing us other than we really are. This teaching tends cause Christians to be spiritually careless and carnal, all the while believing that in their 'standing', they are right with God.

*Closely aligned with this is the doctrine of imputed righteousness so popular today. Believing they are 'covered in the righteousness of Christ', that God views them through who Jesus is, this can easily become an impediment to practical holy living.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

Jude spoke of those of who turn the grace of God into sinful practices. Paul wrote, 'shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid' Rom 6: 1.
Modern day antinomianism allows and justifies continuing in a life of sin.

God has called the Church to a holiness, 'without which no one will see the Lord'. Heb 12:14.

Consider the following verses:

For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace (Ro 6:14),
But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter (Ro 7:6),
Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe (Ga 3:21–22), and
Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith (Php 3:8–9).

From an "anti-antinomian" point of view, what does it mean to not be under law (Rom 6:14)? What does it mean to be delivered from the law (Rom 7:6)? Why can't righteousness be by the law (Gal 3:21) or from the law (Php 3:9)?

Aussie52 · May 13, 2026

NewLifeInChristJesus said:
Consider the following verses:

For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace (Ro 6:14),

But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter (Ro 7:6),

Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe (Ga 3:21–22), and

Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith (Php 3:8–9).

From an "anti-antinomian" point of view, what does it mean to not be under law (Rom 6:14)? What does it mean to be delivered from the law (Rom 7:6)? Why can't righteousness be by the law (Gal 3:21) or from the law (Php 3:9)?

To be not under the Law means that the Law is not a means of obtaining salvation. To be delivered from the Law means to be delivered from 'Law keeping' as a way of salvation. The word 'righteousness' in Gal 3:21 & Phil 3:9 is better translated as justification. and that can only be obtained by faith, not the Law.
As to the moral law of God as seen in the 10 commandments and refined by Jesus in loving God and neighbor, we are still under obligation to obey.

NewLifeInChristJesus · May 15, 2026

Jeff Carr said:
To be not under the Law means that the Law is not a means of obtaining salvation. To be delivered from the Law means to be delivered from 'Law keeping' as a way of salvation. The word 'righteousness' in Gal 3:21 & Phil 3:9 is better translated as justification. and that can only be obtained by faith, not the Law.

Law keeping is definately not a means to obtain salvation. Actually, those who place themselves under the law subject themselves to the curse of the law:

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” (Ga 3:10–12)

Everyone who is justified in God's eyes has life because of his faith.

Jeff Carr said:
As to the moral law of God as seen in the 10 commandments and refined by Jesus in loving God and neighbor, we are still under obligation to obey.

It is not possible to gain justification by obedience to the law. Saying so does not make a person antinomian. But would one be called antinomian if he said it is not possible to lose justification by disobedience to the law? If so, then I would guess this is what distinguishes antinomians from all others?

DamianWarS · May 19, 2026

Jeff Carr said:
Antinomianism is not a subject one usually encounters with others after Church on Sunday. Although as old as the Apostle Paul, it is very common amongst Christians today. From the Latin, Antinomian means 'without law'. Simply stated, the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God. It is a Christianity without any obligations.
'This error stems from a misunderstanding of the sanctifying power of grace. Though the person guilty of Antinomianism rightly understands that when we come to God for salvation, he accepts us the way we are, they also wrongly think that God is content to leave us that way. The Antinomian Christian is so enamored by the free grace of God; they abandon the hot pursuit of practical holiness. The result is Christians that are spiritually immature, living in the flesh, with one foot in the world and the other in the Church'. (From an internet article. Author unknown)
Today there are doctrines and teachings that encourage antinomianism.

* The teaching of 'standing and state' of the Christian. Popularized by C I Scofield, the Christian is said to have a 'standing' of being holy & righteous in Christ even though his 'state' is something quite different. It is God wearing 'rose tinted' glasses, seeing us other than we really are. This teaching tends cause Christians to be spiritually careless and carnal, all the while believing that in their 'standing', they are right with God.

*Closely aligned with this is the doctrine of imputed righteousness so popular today. Believing they are 'covered in the righteousness of Christ', that God views them through who Jesus is, this can easily become an impediment to practical holy living.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

Jude spoke of those of who turn the grace of God into sinful practices. Paul wrote, 'shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid' Rom 6: 1.
Modern day antinomianism allows and justifies continuing in a life of sin.

God has called the Church to a holiness, 'without which no one will see the Lord'. Heb 12:14.

this begs the question then: what is the moral law of God and is that definition biblical defensible? "Moral law of God" is not a biblical expression so if antinomianism is embraced as "the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God" then let's answer first what the "moral law of God" is. Presumably biblical foundation is important to this discussion so let's define these things biblically so we can faithfully approach this.

Perhaps as a suggestion can we atart with "The moral law of God =........" then explain why this is biblical defensible.

Aussie52 · May 19, 2026

DamianWarS said:
this begs the question then: what is the moral law of God and is that definition biblical defensible? "Moral law of God" is not a biblical expression so if antinomianism is embraced as "the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God" then let's answer first what the "moral law of God" is. Presumably biblical foundation is important to this discussion so let's define these things biblically so we can faithfully approach this.

Perhaps as a suggestion can we atart with "The moral law of God =........" then explain why this is biblical defensible.

The moral law of God is seen in the 10 commandments and in Jesus' two great commandments, to love God with all one's being and one's neighbor as oneself. This is an obligation that the Christian fulfill by the grace of God.

DamianWarS · May 20, 2026

Jeff Carr said:
The moral law of God is seen in the 10 commandments and in Jesus' two great commandments, to love God with all one's being and one's neighbor as oneself. This is an obligation that the Christian fulfill by the grace of God

So what is your process for choosing the 2 greatest commandments Jesus highlights AND the 10? I don't recall Jesus putting the 10 parallel to the 2 he highlights, his language puts everything else inferior to. I thought Jesus said it well enough. Why then the need to add the 10 with this? Jesus's words are self-supporting, where is the support to put the 10 parallel to these 2 greatest commandments? (asking for a friend)

The Liturgist · Monday at 2:02 PM

Jeff Carr said:
Antinomianism is not a subject one usually encounters with others after Church on Sunday. Although as old as the Apostle Paul, it is very common amongst Christians today. From the Latin, Antinomian means 'without law'. Simply stated, the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God. It is a Christianity without any obligations.
'This error stems from a misunderstanding of the sanctifying power of grace. Though the person guilty of Antinomianism rightly understands that when we come to God for salvation, he accepts us the way we are, they also wrongly think that God is content to leave us that way. The Antinomian Christian is so enamored by the free grace of God; they abandon the hot pursuit of practical holiness. The result is Christians that are spiritually immature, living in the flesh, with one foot in the world and the other in the Church'. (From an internet article. Author unknown)
Today there are doctrines and teachings that encourage antinomianism.

* The teaching of 'standing and state' of the Christian. Popularized by C I Scofield, the Christian is said to have a 'standing' of being holy & righteous in Christ even though his 'state' is something quite different. It is God wearing 'rose tinted' glasses, seeing us other than we really are. This teaching tends cause Christians to be spiritually careless and carnal, all the while believing that in their 'standing', they are right with God.

*Closely aligned with this is the doctrine of imputed righteousness so popular today. Believing they are 'covered in the righteousness of Christ', that God views them through who Jesus is, this can easily become an impediment to practical holy living.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

Jude spoke of those of who turn the grace of God into sinful practices. Paul wrote, 'shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid' Rom 6: 1.
Modern day antinomianism allows and justifies continuing in a life of sin.

God has called the Church to a holiness, 'without which no one will see the Lord'. Heb 12:14.

The other aspect of contemporary antinomianism is in the form of liberal Christianity although increasingly under the influence of liberation theology, feminist theology, queer theology and other errors, liberal theology had looped back around to legalism.

A New Dawn · Tuesday at 12:03 AM

Jeff Carr said:
* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

I believe you are in error on several issues s in your post, but want to speak to the part of the post I copied above.

It appears you are speaking against the reformed POV, specifically, but I would suggest from your comments that you don’t understand the reformed view and so are making assumptions and speaking to those assumptions instead of the actual beliefs, since you are not addressing the actual beliefs.

As a Calvinist, we believe that we are all sinners, completely unable to approach the Lord because of our fallen nature (as per Romans 3.). God has to make the first move and step in and turn our heart of stone to a heart of flesh, changing our very nature and will to be one with His own, and giving us faith and the gift of the Holy Spirit to guide and direct us throughout our life. And because our will has been turned to God, we willingly (now) put off sin so we can be conformed to the image of Christ. Believing our sin, in total, has been nailed to the tree IN NO WAY means we go soft on sin. If anything, it is the opposite. It is the most humbling feeling I have, knowing that Christ suffered horrible torture and humiliations for ME, and to even suggest that we would make light of it, or think of it as “easy grace” is really low of you to suggest.

The other thing you seem to not understand about the reformed position, specifically in the Doctrines of Grace, is the concept of perseverance of the saints. The concept of perseverance of the saints is that there is nothing that can pull us from God’s hands, and so we remain safe in Him. He will always provide. You have to remember that not all who have claimed to be saved, or say “Lord, Lord” are his. Those people will fall away because they have not been regenerated and received those blessings that I mentioned above. But they were never one of the Lord’s children. Those that belong to the Lord will remain faithful to the end.

Aussie52 · Tuesday at 4:04 AM

A New Dawn said:
I believe you are in error on several issues s in your post, but want to speak to the part of the post I copied above.

It appears you are speaking against the reformed POV, specifically, but I would suggest from your comments that you don’t understand the reformed view and so are making assumptions and speaking to those assumptions instead of the actual beliefs, since you are not addressing the actual beliefs.

As a Calvinist, we believe that we are all sinners, completely unable to approach the Lord because of our fallen nature (as per Romans 3.). God has to make the first move and step in and turn our heart of stone to a heart of flesh, changing our very nature and will to be one with His own, and giving us faith and the gift of the Holy Spirit to guide and direct us throughout our life. And because our will has been turned to God, we willingly (now) put off sin so we can be conformed to the image of Christ. Believing our sin, in total, has been nailed to the tree IN NO WAY means we go soft on sin. If anything, it is the opposite. It is the most humbling feeling I have, knowing that Christ suffered horrible torture and humiliations for ME, and to even suggest that we would make light of it, or think of it as “easy grace” is really low of you to suggest.

The other thing you seem to not understand about the reformed position, specifically in the Doctrines of Grace, is the concept of perseverance of the saints. The concept of perseverance of the saints is that there is nothing that can pull us from God’s hands, and so we remain safe in Him. He will always provide. You have to remember that not all who have claimed to be saved, or say “Lord, Lord” are his. Those people will fall away because they have not been regenerated and received those blessings that I mentioned above. But they were never one of the Lord’s children. Those that belong to the Lord will remain faithful to the end.

I think I have a reasonable grasp of Reformed theology. Thanks for your comments.
Peace.

A New Dawn · Tuesday at 7:13 AM

Aussie52 said:
I think I have a reasonable grasp of Reformed theology. Thanks for your comments.
Peace.

Yours was not the post I quoted and was speaking to.

ETA - i see you are Jeff Carr with a name change. In which case, you have no idea what reformed theology teaches as you have not portrayed it accurately.

Aussie52 · Tuesday at 1:20 PM

A New Dawn said:
Yours was not the post I quoted and was speaking to.

ETA - i see you are Jeff Carr with a name change. In which case, you have no idea what reformed theology teaches as you have not portrayed it accurately.

If you say so.

A New Dawn · Tuesday at 1:53 PM

Aussie52 said:
If you say so.

Glad we agree.

Christ's Bride · 2026-06-06T06:31:25-0500

Aussie52 said:
Antinomianism is not a subject one usually encounters with others after Church on Sunday. Although as old as the Apostle Paul, it is very common amongst Christians today. From the Latin, Antinomian means 'without law'. Simply stated, the Christian is not under obligation to the moral law of God. It is a Christianity without any obligations.
'This error stems from a misunderstanding of the sanctifying power of grace. Though the person guilty of Antinomianism rightly understands that when we come to God for salvation, he accepts us the way we are, they also wrongly think that God is content to leave us that way. The Antinomian Christian is so enamored by the free grace of God; they abandon the hot pursuit of practical holiness. The result is Christians that are spiritually immature, living in the flesh, with one foot in the world and the other in the Church'. (From an internet article. Author unknown)
Today there are doctrines and teachings that encourage antinomianism.

* The teaching of 'standing and state' of the Christian. Popularized by C I Scofield, the Christian is said to have a 'standing' of being holy & righteous in Christ even though his 'state' is something quite different. It is God wearing 'rose tinted' glasses, seeing us other than we really are. This teaching tends cause Christians to be spiritually careless and carnal, all the while believing that in their 'standing', they are right with God.

*Closely aligned with this is the doctrine of imputed righteousness so popular today. Believing they are 'covered in the righteousness of Christ', that God views them through who Jesus is, this can easily become an impediment to practical holy living.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross. This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins. Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

*The doctrine of eternal security or once saved always saved has lulled many into a false sense of security and led to carnal, unholy living, all the while believing they are still saved.

The above doctrines encourage one to be 'antinomian' as they lead Christians along the road of continuing in sin and despising the call to holiness.

Jude spoke of those of who turn the grace of God into sinful practices. Paul wrote, 'shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid' Rom 6: 1.
Modern day antinomianism allows and justifies continuing in a life of sin.

God has called the Church to a holiness, 'without which no one will see the Lord'. Heb 12:14.

* The teaching that all our sins; past, present and future were forgiven at the Cross.
This unscriptural view misunderstands the meaning of the atonement of Christ. Through Christ's death, He has made 'provision' for forgiveness of our sins.
Actual forgiveness comes, upon confession 1Jn 1:9. Believing that all future sin has been forgiven has caused many to be soft on sin as they believe it to be already forgiven.

Now the Truth is coming into view. Why did Christ began His preaching with Repent? and why was John the Baptist sent before Christ preaching repent?

those believing the sacrifice of Christ automatically and universally removed all there sins forever are deceived.

Our penalty of death for "our individual sins" ARE paid for by the ONE Sacrifice of Christ -- that is an Eternal Truth, but - but
Repent is not a one moment event. Repenting is a life time process. Repent is to stop sinning and sin is the transgressions of the Torah.

the entirety of the WORD of God states: those that continue in sin will never enter the Family of God.

When Christ told His 12, If ye love me, keep my commandments.
That was not a suggestion and He did not add, "keep the ones you like"

Studyman · 2026-06-06T07:35:04-0500

NewLifeInChristJesus said:
Consider the following verses:

For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace (Ro 6:14),

But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter (Ro 7:6),

Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe (Ga 3:21–22), and

Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith (Php 3:8–9).

From an "anti-antinomian" point of view, what does it mean to not be under law (Rom 6:14)? What does it mean to be delivered from the law (Rom 7:6)? Why can't righteousness be by the law (Gal 3:21) or from the law (Php 3:9)?

The answer to your question seems simple to me. There is a LAW that says, "The soul that sins shall die". If our sins are taken away, then we are no longer "Under this Law". We have been Delivered "From this Law". It seems foolish to promote the philosophy that we are no longer "under" the requirement "Not to kill" or "Not to Steal" or that God's Sabbaths have suddenly become "Unholy".

Had you continued reading Paul's message in Romans 6, he clearly points this out.

Rom. 6: 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, (Dead in trespasses and sins) but under grace? (Alive to "put on the new man") God forbid. (I think this means NO!)

16 Know ye not, that "to whom" ye yield yourselves servants to obey, "his servants ye are" to whom ye obey; whether of sin (Transgression of God's Law) unto death, or of obedience ( Belief, Honor and respect of God's Law) unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that "ye were" the servants of sin, but ye have "obeyed from the heart" that form of doctrine which was delivered you. ( All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. )

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

In every Scriptures you posted, had you considered more than just one verse, you would find that Paul is also "anti-antinomian".

Rom. 7: 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind "I myself serve the law of God"; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Gal. 3: 21 Is the law then against the promises of God?

(What Law? The LAW Abraham didn't have, that wasn't "ADDED" until 430 years after him) The Law required by God before the Priest would provide for the remission of a man's sin? (Lev. 4)

God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

So men of Moses time were dead in their trespasses and Sins. After the Golden Calf incident, what LAW was ADDED to cover these trespasses and sins?

Did Moses say, "If a man sins, he shall love his brother as himself, and his sins will be forgiven?" Did Moses say, "If a man transgresses God's Commandments, he shall keep the Sabbath Holy and his sins are forgiven?"

No! Moses specifically detailed how a man sins were to be forgiven in the Old Priesthood Covenant. A man can go right to the Law and Prophets if he is seeking God's Truth, and he can find the exact answer to the question, "What Law". And when you find this LAW, you will come to understand that it was just a covering, that the "LAW" didn't take away the sins of man, as it is written, "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

It was ADDED, "Till the SEED should Come". It was the school master leading the Faithful to the True Sin removing blood, the TRUE Sacrifice for the sins of the world.

And lastly,

Phil. 3: 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law (Of the Pharisee), blameless.

Paul already told us that the "Pharisees" were ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish "their own righteousness", "have not submitted themselves" unto the righteousness of God.

Jesus, in every Word HE spoke to define the Pharisee's religion, rebuked them for " Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition".

He said, "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments "of men". Not God as "many" who come in Christ's Name promote.

Now we can read Paul's statement in Phil. 3 and understand what he is saying, if we are searching for God's Truth, and not justification for popular religious philosophy that exists in the world God placed us in.

Phil. 3: 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, (of the Pharisee) but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness "which is of God" by faith/belief;

And Paul confirms his commitment to the perfection Jesus commanded and that was in Jesus.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark "for the prize of the high calling of God" (Which is) in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

We know Paul was seeking Perfection in the same way Jesus sought perfection,

Phil. 2: 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Paul understood how important submitting oneself, yielding oneself, humbling oneself, offering oneself in obedience to God was.

Rom. 2: 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but "the doers of the law" shall be justified.

Be careful my friend, of this world's religions who come in Christ's Name. Jesus didn't warn us for nothing.

Christ's Bride · 2026-06-06T09:06:22-0500

Studyman said:
The answer to your question seems simple to me. There is a LAW that says, "The soul that sins shall die". If our sins are taken away, then we are no longer "Under this Law". We have been Delivered "From this Law". It seems foolish to promote the philosophy that we are no longer "under" the requirement "Not to kill" or "Not to Steal" or that God's Sabbaths have suddenly become "Unholy".

Had you continued reading Paul's message in Romans 6, he clearly points this out.

Rom. 6: 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, (Dead in trespasses and sins) but under grace? (Alive to "put on the new man") God forbid. (I think this means NO!)

16 Know ye not, that "to whom" ye yield yourselves servants to obey, "his servants ye are" to whom ye obey; whether of sin (Transgression of God's Law) unto death, or of obedience ( Belief, Honor and respect of God's Law) unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that "ye were" the servants of sin, but ye have "obeyed from the heart" that form of doctrine which was delivered you. ( All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. )

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

In every Scriptures you posted, had you considered more than just one verse, you would find that Paul is also "anti-antinomian".

Rom. 7: 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind "I myself serve the law of God"; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Gal. 3: 21 Is the law then against the promises of God?

(What Law? The LAW Abraham didn't have, that wasn't "ADDED" until 430 years after him) The Law required by God before the Priest would provide for the remission of a man's sin? (Lev. 4)

God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

So men of Moses time were dead in their trespasses and Sins. After the Golden Calf incident, what LAW was ADDED to cover these trespasses and sins?

Did Moses say, "If a man sins, he shall love his brother as himself, and his sins will be forgiven?" Did Moses say, "If a man transgresses God's Commandments, he shall keep the Sabbath Holy and his sins are forgiven?"

No! Moses specifically detailed how a man sins were to be forgiven in the Old Priesthood Covenant. A man can go right to the Law and Prophets if he is seeking God's Truth, and he can find the exact answer to the question, "What Law". And when you find this LAW, you will come to understand that it was just a covering, that the "LAW" didn't take away the sins of man, as it is written, "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

It was ADDED, "Till the SEED should Come". It was the school master leading the Faithful to the True Sin removing blood, the TRUE Sacrifice for the sins of the world.

And lastly,

Phil. 3: 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: 5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law (Of the Pharisee), blameless.

Paul already told us that the "Pharisees" were ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish "their own righteousness", "have not submitted themselves" unto the righteousness of God.

Jesus, in every Word HE spoke to define the Pharisee's religion, rebuked them for " Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition".

He said, "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments "of men". Not God as "many" who come in Christ's Name promote.

Now we can read Paul's statement in Phil. 3 and understand what he is saying, if we are searching for God's Truth, and not justification for popular religious philosophy that exists in the world God placed us in.

Phil. 3: 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, (of the Pharisee) but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness "which is of God" by faith/belief;

And Paul confirms his commitment to the perfection Jesus commanded and that was in Jesus.

12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14 I press toward the mark "for the prize of the high calling of God" (Which is) in Christ Jesus.

15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

We know Paul was seeking Perfection in the same way Jesus sought perfection,

Phil. 2: 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Paul understood how important submitting oneself, yielding oneself, humbling oneself, offering oneself in obedience to God was.

Rom. 2: 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but "the doers of the law" shall be justified.

Be careful my friend, of this world's religions who come in Christ's Name. Jesus didn't warn us for nothing.

Studyman,

They refuse to hear!

They have corrupted Paul's "Grace", just believe and it is a done deal!

I rarely hear the word repent --- every possible excuse - they use and there are many

and the Sacrifice Christ made, is for the MANY just a foot note.

Studyman · 2026-06-06T10:37:02-0500

Christ's Bride said:
Studyman,

They refuse to hear!

They have corrupted Paul's "Grace", just believe and it is a done deal!

I rarely hear the word repent --- every possible excuse - they use and there are many

and the Sacrifice Christ made, is for the MANY just a foot note.

Well you seem to "hear". How do you know there isn't someone else who has been pricked in the heart by the difference between what this world's religions promote, and what the Scriptures actually say.

I believe these discussions are good to have, even if most just shrug them off.

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