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First, how many apologies does one need to offer in order for the offense to be expunged? All the way back to Pope Leo XIII in the 1880s, the popes have apologized. John Paul II apologized multiple times on his many trips to Africa. Now Pope Leo XIV. When will the apology finally be accepted—and by whom? The people whom this directly impacted are long dead, both perpetrators and victims. Or will we be apologizing until the end of time?

Second, when does the Catholic Church get to receive apologies? How about from the Italian government for the ancient Roman persecutions? The Mexicans for how they treated the Church in the 1920s? The formerly Communist bloc? The current regimes in China, Nigeria, and elsewhere? Why do people move on so quickly at the travesties that Catholics have had to endure throughout the centuries?

 
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Yes indeed. None of the Apostles ever apologises for anything any of them does wrong. Jesus constantly offends people, & never apologises for anything he does. What these characters do do, a lot, is accuse other people. But they never say sorry. That in itself is extremely unrealistic, because nobody ever speaks or acts without at some time stepping on someone’s toes and having to apologise for doing so.

And some of what they do is pretty unpleasant; certainly no Christian who today did as they do would get away uncriticised. If a modern Saint Peter killed a modern Ananias and Sapphira, his successors would never stop apologising for it.

But in Acts 5, that is not what happens. The Peter of Acts 5 would today be regarded as a murderous fanatic - there is absolutely nothing “caring”, “pastoral”, “dialogical”, or “accompanying” about the Peter of Acts 5, or about the Paul who blinds Elymas the sorcerer in Acts 13. Neither of them would recognise the limp-wristed, whiny, apologising, gutless, spineless, effete, faithless, cowardly, wordly, slothful, syncretistic Papacy of today as Christian.
 
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