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Active Shooter Islamic Center of San Diego Multiple Casualties Reported.

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Interesting because this is a whole thing in our kid’s school right now. Guys fixating on heights, I mean, and what their height means and anger at women for their supposedly picking tall men over short. I thought it was a blip to our teenage fishbowl, so it’s interesting to see it’s actually a thing.
When lots of women are explicitly stating that they require a guy to meet certain physical standards, young men take notice. It has been shown that young women think they are going to land a guy who is over 6 foot, good looking, earning over 6 figures. The fact that is less then 2% of the human population does not seem to have been revealed to them.
 
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It has been shown that young women think they are going to land a guy who is over 6 foot, good looking, earning over 6 figures. The fact that is less then 2% of the human population does not seem to have been revealed to them.
Hmmm… 3 for 3

I’m gonna have to remind my wife how lucky she is.
 
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Social media, manifesto of San Diego mosque shooters rooted in white nationalism

The gunmen who killed three people at the San Diego Islamic Center left behind a 75-page document that preached hate, anti-Islam ideology and antisemitism and promoted violence and chaos, law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation told The Times.

The manifesto was titled “The New Crusade: Sons of Tarrant” and made reference to Brenton Tarrant, who killed 51 people and injured 89 more in an attack on a mosque and an Islamic center in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019, according to the sources. The FBI confirmed Tuesday that it is examining a manifesto, but did not verify the one circulating online that purports to be the attackers’ writings.

The Times has reviewed those writings, which espoused hate toward Muslims, Jews, Black people and Latinos and the LGBTQ+ community. The Times also identified social media accounts believed to be used by one of the shooters that idolized school shootings, the white nationalism movement and neo-Nazi terrorism and were flush with memes from the online far-right extremist community.

The Times found social media accounts under the usernames Clark identified as his, and those linked to accounts showing school shootings as video games, and a dozen profile photographs that show the user dressed in camouflage and a grimacing skull mask before a Confederate flag, wearing emblems associated with Nazism. In an image uploaded in April, the masked author shows the book “Siege,” a collection of essays by a militant neo-Nazi who advocated “lone wolf” terrorism in the cause of white revolution.

The phrase “groyper,” used in one of the account names, is a handle used by followers of Nick Fuentes, whose far-right political discourse has inflamed a generation of young male followers, including those who attended the 2017 white supremacist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va.

In the writings reviewed by The Times, Vasquez advocates for the destruction of the political system and “all out race war for the purpose of societal collapse.” Clark describes himself as a “Christian EcoFascist.” An Anti-Defamation League analysis noted the writings heavily reference the great replacement theory — the belief that white people are being replaced by nonwhite immigrants.

The pair portrayed themselves as building on the work of multiple mass killers, from Tarrant to the Buffalo supermarket attacker to the Chabad of Poway assailant. [Poway is not far from San Diego]

They also applauded Elliot Rodger, [called it!] the 22-year-old who in 2014 killed six people in Isla Vista, Calif., and left behind his own manifesto that advocated for the incel movement.
 
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It was a beacon of hope and faith in San Diego. Attack leaves a community seeking answers

  • San Diego’s largest mosque, long a refuge for immigrant families and interfaith gatherings, is now ringed with police tape after three people were killed shielding children from teenage gunmen.
  • Worshipers describe the Islamic Center of San Diego as a second home — school, social hub and spiritual anchor — now transformed by trauma, grief and a determination to reclaim its peace.
  • The attack unfolded amid a surge in anti-Muslim rhetoric, online smear campaigns and record civil rights complaints, intensifying community anger at political leaders accused of ignoring escalating threats.
The center — its minaret visible for miles — draws congregants from across the globe. Many who worship at the mosque have immigrated to America from Gaza and other places besieged by violence. The expansive white building with its blue tiled roof has been the backdrop for daily connections to God, countless Eid celebrations and events that welcomed interfaith communities.

“We are aware of what’s happening around the world, around the nation, the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment, the rise of anti-every type of minority sentiment, but we never expected such things to happen,” Imam Taha Hassane told The Times.

Tamer Bar, 39, prays at the mosque at least two times a day. His family back in Gaza faces violence on a daily basis, and he said the mosque offers respite from news of the painful destruction of his homeland.

“When we pray at the mosque we leave everything behind and we go to face God,” he said. “It’s a place of peace.”

Raqib Hameed Naik, the executive director of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Organized Hate, a nonprofit that tracks online extremism, said anti-Muslim sentiment has reached a fever pitch in roughly the last year and has been pushed bymore than 80 Republican elected officials online who have “used their platforms to promote dangerous narratives” and helped bolster coordinated campaigns by right-wing social media influencers propagating conspiracy theories.

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An online smear campaign last month engulfed another Southern California mosque.

In a post on X, a social media influencer who frequently spreads anti-Muslim conspiracy theories claimed that plans by the Islamic Society of Orange County to expand would create a “parallel” society and “Sharia enclave” where U.S. laws do not apply, in service of the “Islamization” of Orange County.

Mosque leaders said the brazen online screed had led to a surge of hateful rhetoric and threats of violence against the facility and its congregants. In response, the Garden Grove Police Department increased patrols in the area.
 
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When lots of women are explicitly stating that they require a guy to meet certain physical standards, young men take notice.
Wow. How hard, discouraging, and dehumanizing mistreatment it feel when people make explicit requirements about the physical standards they want in their ideal partner.

It has been shown that young women think they are going to land a guy who is over 6 foot, good looking, earning over 6 figures. The fact that is less then 2% of the human population does not seem to have been revealed to them.
It has been shown by who? And if you really think women like only 2% of men, that sounds like the problem will take care of itself… Either they will find it or they won’t, and if they don’t then they’ll either compromise or stay single. Back in my day, we called that “dating.”
 
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Hmmm… 3 for 3

I’m gonna have to remind my wife how lucky she is.
BRB, telling my husband what a massive disappointment he is because he’s only 2 out of 3.
 
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Wow. How hard, discouraging, and dehumanizing mistreatment it feel when people make explicit requirements about the physical standards they want in their ideal partner.


It has been shown by who? And if you really think women like only 2% of men, that sounds like the problem will take care of itself… Either they will find it or they won’t, and if they don’t then they’ll either compromise or stay single. Back in my day, we called that “dating.”
Not excusing, just explaining.
 
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I'm a drummer. Pity the next gal who dates me.
I mean, that isn’t automatically bad. I hear “full time drummer” and I think a creative with endurance who’s talented enough to make it their living. I’m my single days I’d have swept… Whatever the direction you need to swipe… To know more. Very least I’d want to know is genre.
 
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I mean, that isn’t automatically bad. I hear “full time drummer” and I think a creative with endurance who’s talented enough to make it their living. I’m my single days I’d have swept… Whatever the direction you need to swipe… To know more. Very least I’d want to know is genre.
I have a day job too. But I used to do "working band" stuff with working musicians. Now Ive retired to original music only playing quirky-rock, Americana - cowpunk, and trad Roma / Eastern European party music.
 
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I have a day job too. But I used to do "working band" stuff with working musicians. Now Ive retired to original music only playing quirky-rock, Americana - cowpunk, and trad Roma / Eastern European party music.
See? That’s interesting! I bet you have fun stories.
 
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I'm a drummer. Pity the next gal who dates me.
My neighbor is a drummer. Has his kit in the basement of his house. I only hear him whilst transversing the yard to get to my car; he’s pretty good. (Our houses are about 10m apart.)
 
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When lots of women are explicitly stating that they require a guy to meet certain physical standards, young men take notice. It has been shown that young women think they are going to land a guy who is over 6 foot, good looking, earning over 6 figures. The fact that is less then 2% of the human population does not seem to have been revealed to them.
Is it really that small of a percentage?

I've seen the memes circulating around on the web showing some, shall we say, "full-figured gals'" tinder profiles (often times mentioning 3-4 kids) suggesting that the guy has to be over 6 foot and make six figures, but assumed that most of those were photoshopped. Didn't realize that was actually as pervasive of a thing. Some toxic femininity perhaps? lol

Plus nowadays, "six figures" isn't the flex it used to be 10-15 years ago.

According to some various job insights sites, a Target store manager is in that ballpark now


Given this new found information, I'm going to go remind my S.O. how good she has it and leverage that information in order to pick where vacation will be in August.
 
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Given this new found information, I'm going to go remind my S.O. how good she has it and leverage that information in order to pick where vacation will be in August.
Keep us posted?
 
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San Diego gunman was ‘idolizing Nazis and mass shooters,’ prompting gun removal from home in 2025

Fifteen months before Caleb Liam Vazquez gunned down three men at the San Diego Islamic Center, Chula Vista police got a court order to remove his father’s numerous firearms.

Vazquez, 18, was undergoing mental health treatment in the days before Monday’s deadly attack, having been previously involuntarily hospitalized by authorities.

His parents, in the aftermath, said that he was caught up in a web of online hate, and the tragic events came after repeated voluntary trips to rehabilitation treatment centers.

[In Jan 2025] Chula Vista police filed a gun violence emergency protective order against his father, Marco Vazquez, with a police officer writing the teenager “was involved in suspicious behavior idolizing Nazis and mass shooters.”

According to the San Diego Superior Court records, the officer noted that Caleb Vazquez “was placed on a 5150 hold” — where a person is deemed a danger to themselves or others and involuntarily detained for 72 hours — and that his father, who had 12 registered guns, refused to “allow officers to confirm if firearms were stored properly.” [The father said the family's guns were transferred for storage to a licensed gun dealer.]

[Father] Marco Vazquez wrote in his declaration that he never threatened anyone or supported “any violent ideology such as Nazism, racism, school shootings, or mass shootings.” He added that he and his wife were now monitoring their son’s online communications, were working with his school, and that their son regularly attended therapy. The New York Times first reported some of the details of the court order on Thursday.
 
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I'm not surprised, I get a lot of videos, about how evil Muslims are. How they're taking over America and other countries.
We see posts on this forum saying that.
 
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