Early Iran War Goal: Reinstall Ahmadinejad

iluvatar5150 · May 19, 2026

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/19/us/politics/iran-israel-us-leader-ahmadinejad.html?unlocked_article_code=1.j1A.kjBt.FF_Cp1vr_-Ea&smid=nytcore-ios-share

It turns out that the United States and Israel went into the conflict with a particular and very surprising someone in mind: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the former Iranian president known for his hard-line, anti-Israel and anti-American views.

But the audacious plan, developed by the Israelis and which Mr. Ahmadinejad had been consulted about, quickly went awry, according to the U.S. officials who were briefed on it.

Mr. Ahmadinejad was injured on the war’s first day by an Israeli strike at his home in Tehran that had been designed to free him from house arrest, the American officials and an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad said. He survived the strike, they said, but after the near miss he became disillusioned with the regime change plan.

wing2000 · May 20, 2026

iluvatar5150 said:
Mr. Ahmadinejad was injured on the war’s first day by an Israeli strike at his home in Tehran that had been designed to free him from house arrest, the American officials and an associate of Mr. Ahmadinejad said. He survived the strike, they said, but after the near miss he became disillusioned with the regime change plan.

oops.

DaisyDay · May 20, 2026

wing2000 said:
oops.

The current battle cry of our republic.

Say it aint so · May 20, 2026

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You've really got to prepare for these things - you can't just wing it.

You can tell that he's just winging it and isn't very good at it, either.

We're all just winging it really.

durangodawood · May 20, 2026

These are the same "planners" who were taken by surprise at Iran's chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz - which has only been a feature of every previous admin's wargaming of similar scenarios.

My biggest worry in all this is theyve hounded out or sidelined every actual expert on anything in favor of loyal yes men. This could come back to bite us with consequences much worse that the Iran debacle(s) - unless we just get lucky and skate through.

Say it aint so · May 21, 2026

durangodawood said:
These are the same "planners" who were taken by surprise at Iran's chokehold on the Strait of Hormuz - which has only been a feature of every previous admin's wargaming of similar scenarios.

My biggest worry in all this is theyve hounded out or sidelined every actual expert on anything in favor of loyal yes men. This could come back to bite us with consequences much worse that the Iran debacle(s) - unless we just get lucky and skate through.

The plan is to make Trump a great war time president, because that's what Bibi sold him.
So then Trump and Hegseth went to the situation room and watched marathons of John Wayne and Steven Segal movies, then let the bombs fly.

durangodawood · May 21, 2026

Say it aint so said:
The plan is to make Trump a great war time president, because that's what Bibi sold him.
So then Trump and Hegseth went to the situation room and watched marathons of John Wayne and Steven Segal movies, then let the bombs fly.

...and task some interns from Liberty "University" with the irritating nation-building planning.

Always in His Presence · May 21, 2026

March 1, 2026 -

Former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — a polarizing hardliner who became the face of Tehran’s nuclear defiance and incendiary anti-Israel rhetoric — was reportedly killed in Israeli airstrikes at the outset of the military operation inside Iran.

A report by the Israeli media outlet Ma’ariv stated that Ahmadinejad was under house arrest at the time and was killed in a targeted strike on his residence.

Always in His Presence · May 21, 2026

I find it incredulous that some brain child at the NYTimes using unverifiable sources (what's new?), to write an article wanting intelligent people to believe that the President went into Iran to stop them from getting a nuclear bomb capability and in doing so a regime change from leadership that hates the US and Israel, sourcing terrorist organizations globally.

And then wants us to believe we would be willing to support a former president of Iran who is anti American, Anti Israel and wants to further develop nuclear bombs.

The American voter, IMHO, is too intelligent to fall for it.

Pommer · May 21, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
I find it incredulous that some brain child at the NYTimes using unverifiable sources (what's new?), to write an article wanting intelligent people to believe that the President went into Iran to stop them from getting a nuclear bomb capability and in doing so a regime change from leadership that hates the US and Israel, sourcing terrorist organizations globally.

And then wants us to believe we would be willing to support a former president of Iran who is anti American, Anti Israel and wants to further develop nuclear bombs.

The American voter, IMHO, is too intelligent to fall for it.

The editors know who the sources are. They don’t allways pass along who those sources are because they’ll want to have sources in the future.

Lukaris · May 21, 2026

The strange afterlife of Iran’s firebrand president

A New York Times report claiming former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was considered by some US officials for a post-war role in Iran triggered a storm of speculation, ridicule and conspiracy theories inside Iran.

www.iranintl.com

An opinion of Ahmadinejad’s former advisor turned rival in the article:

Former Ahmadinejad adviser Abdolreza Davari—now a vocal critic—argued that many of Ahmadinejad’s statements during his presidency benefited Israel’s far right by portraying Iran as radical and extreme.

“Ahmadinejad said things that the Israeli far right needed,” Davari said. “Things that could present Iran as radical and extreme and strengthen the project of Iranophobia.”

But Davari also cautioned against drawing definitive conclusions about covert ties. “Whether there was truly an organic convergence or not, I honestly do not know,” he said.

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