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State Dept. Uses "Replacement Migration" Language

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I don't tend to look at it as that "deep" for lack of a better term.

There's been an intersectional hierarchy established, and decisions are made based on that.

It's the same reason why white people are expected to get shamed and give a graveling apology for a faux pas that happened 10 years ago (based on current cultural standards) and other groups of are given a pass.

One glaring example that always sticks in my mind...

When Bill Maher cracked a joke about being a "House N-", and the following week, he had the rapper Ice Cube on his show, and he told Bill that he needed to be educated, and that it's never okay to say that word, even in the context of an ironic joke, etc... Meanwhile, Ice was on there to promote the 25 year anniversary re-release of the NWA album (which is ironic enough on its own), which featured the lyrics of "The Cop's all on my ----, he must be a F or something" (F referring to a derogatory term for gay people), and was applauded for "speaking truth to power" by the liberal publications for it. ....until Ice revealed that he was vaccine skeptic and did an interview for Tucker's podcast, and then they turned on him for other reasons.


That type of lack of self-awareness and intentional blind spots, followed to its logical conclusion, results in a society where someone will get lambasted for saying something like "I feel like men should be the head of the household" (based on a conservative Christian interpretation), while simultaneously defending the ideology that's hands-down, bar-none, no close second, the worst terms of treatment of women, simply because the ideology is mostly comprised of people who have a little more skin pigment.
I find it difficult to believe that people can lack that level of self-awareness. It has to be something more.

And a lot of these people are scholars and grown adults. Their fantasies can be kept to themselves, but when they make real societal changes, based on their fantasies, it needs to be brought up.
 
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I know this might sound far-fetched at first, but driving past schools, I rarely see D.A.R.E. posters anymore, as they have been replaced with trans-inclusivity posters instead... That's where we are now, as a society - where sexual fantasy has settled in and taken a real seat in our culture. We're on a bad road.

I have no reason at all to believe that a submissive attraction to people with more pigmentation isn't related, and is actually being forced, and indoctrinated into our culture on purpose. Just like Gender Theory.

...And I wouldn't put it past the U.N. to be in on all this stuff, as the nations that make up the U.N. are literally anti-American, with goals to reduce our global influence... If there were a way to make America more like the rest of the world, how could that be done? By turning America into the rest of the world, I would say. First step is to break down morals, and self-identity, second step is to bring the world in.

Homepage | UN Free & Equal campaign for the rights of LGBTIQ+ people UN Free & Equal

 
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I just find it difficult to believe that people can lack that level of self-awareness. It has to be something more.

I think it's a combination of economics and wanting to stay in the good graces of the "in-group" to a degree.

While it's slowly shifting in a different direction, we're still a country that's heavily rooted in academic credentialism, and in the world of academia (and the social circles that exist in that world), intersectionality is still king.


Last weekend, I was walking around Tappan Square
(I've mentioned before that I lived within easy driving distance of Oberlin College, so I'm not revealing too much about myself here)



There were students there walking around with clipboards trying to get signatures to rename some building, which I was honest with them and said "sorry, I'm not a student, have a good one" rather than engaging - I was just trying to finish getting my 15,000 steps in for the day...

A) I was flattered that they thought I was even remotely young enough to be a student there lol -- I have a young'ish look compared to my age, and to toot my own horn, am in good shape for early 40's, but not sure I can pull off early-mid 20's lol

B) It was for some reason along the lines of "this guy did this offensive thing 100 years ago by current standards" (it had something to do with Native Americans, I forget the exact details)

I'm not sure if it was actually student-led or part of some project they were supposed to complete...who knows - it's Oberlin, the same place where professors participated, along with students, in demonstrations trying to get a local bakery shut down over something that was perceived as offensive. (that the school ended up getting sued for)


While I've gone off on a tangent here...to tie it back to what I said originally...

If academia is the perceived path to "a good job", and getting through that process involves bending a knee to all of the intersectional buy-ins (else have a miserable 4-6 years with no friends, bad grades, etc...), people are submitting themselves to that type of programming out of partial necessity believing if they want to have a well-paying career, they need to concede to certain cultural precepts.
 
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I know this might sound far-fetched at first, but driving past schools, I rarely see D.A.R.E. posters anymore, as they have been replaced with trans-inclusivity posters instead... That's where we are now, as a society - where sexual fantasy has settled in and taken a real seat in our culture. We're on a bad road.
Well...I mean... the dare thing was kind of stupid lol. (I think that program did more harm than good if we're being honest)

While I've been critical about the injection of various things in public schools just because it's part of a broader LGBT inclusion effort (that wouldn't be tolerated if it wasn't centered around those themes), I think there's a middle ground.

Ideally, schools wouldn't be delving into "there's 72 genders" or "if you smoke a joint, it'll be like reefer madness" type of stuff.

I'd be content with Math, Science, English, and History.
 
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We'd be better off if we could follow the dots... Colleges, which are supposed to be impartial, get their inspiration on Social Teaching from think tanks, with dark money, who are influenced by the U.N., which is made up of the enemies of the United States.

If there were ever a way to infiltrate our country, this would be the way to do it.
 
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Remember how we used to talk about the elitists and draining the swamp? I think that as long as the U.N. continues to exist and infiltrate our country from within, we can never truly drain it, because it will keep filling up.

...We have no choice but to pull the plug. Let's get the U.N. headquarters out of here. Congress could pass an act mandating the termination of the Headquarters Agreement or declaring a total US withdrawal from the UN (which has been proposed in bills like the American Sovereignty Restoration Act or targeted bills to relocate the UN).

Do it NOW..!!!
 
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If he was real...
He is real.
A) are you suggesting that Islam is a predominately white religion? (enough to cancel out the intersectional hierarchy in the eyes of progressives)...or were you just being a bit facetious there?
No, I'm just saying that the original followers of muhammad really admired his whiteness, according to their own words, and really held blackness in contempt, according to the words of muhammad.
B) Muhammed must have been really spreading that seed around with numerous wives and concubines in order to have this result. Almost like he viewed women as property and subservient to the desires of men. Is this guy in the picture a descendent of Aisha? If so, I would assume it came from much later in that particular marriage since she was only 9 years old when they hooked up
No, he most likely came from either Khadija bint Khuwaylid or Maria al-Qibtiyya.
 
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So you don't have anything to say? Why are you here?
Because you seem incapable of understanding my very simple, very clear, and on topic post. Why is that?
 
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Because you seem incapable of understanding my very simple, very clear, and on topic post. Why is that?
I understood it, I just don't understand why you said it.
 
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I understood it, I just don't understand why you said it.
Because I am commenting on how far the communications offices at the State Department and other executive departments have fallen in to racist, xenophobic, and bigoted language. Do you disagree that they have slid down?
 
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Because I am commenting on how far the communications offices at the State Department and other executive departments have fallen in to racist, xenophobic, and bigoted language. Do you disagree that they have slid down?
You mean because some high level people within the State Department have made comments regarding "white culture"..? Is that what you're referring to in regards to "racist, xenophobic, and bigoted language"?

...I know that "black culture" and "Latino culture" are considered acceptable terms... So is "Islamic culture". But maybe white Europeans are not allowed to have a culture... That would fit nicely into my interpretation of the U.N.'s goal of "erasing our self-identity", and "bringing the world in", to reduce our global influence.
 
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You mean because some high level people within the State Department have made comments regarding "white culture"..? Is that what you're referring to in regards to "racist, xenophobic, and bigoted language"?

...I know that "black culture" and "Latino culture" are considered acceptable terms... So is "Islamic culture". But maybe white Europeans are not allowed to have a culture... That would fit nicely into my interpretation of the U.N.'s goal of "erasing our self-identity", and "bringing the world in", to reduce our global influence.

Landon -- "White Europeans" don't have *A* culture.

As for the propaganda posts from various *official* US government accounts here are a few articles that discuss them.






Circling back to the OP and the migration language:


The ideas I put in my post are widely available in the media. I do not come at this as a scholar of extremism, but as someone who reads posts and articles about it in the media.
 
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Because I am commenting on how far the communications offices at the State Department and other executive departments have fallen in to racist, xenophobic, and bigoted language. Do you disagree that they have slid down?
No, they've not slid down, they've risen up. Not far enough, but they're on the right track.

 
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No, they've not slid down, they've risen up. Not far enough, but they're on the right track.

A video from a white Nationalist? What should I take from that?

I see who you are now Chesterfield.
 
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Landon -- "White Europeans" don't have *A* culture.
Yes, that's what most articles in the media say, even with the existence of rock and roll music, hamburgers and baseball... It's also considered shameful by the American media, if someone holds the view that they are proud to be white. Being proud of being Brown or Black in America, on the other hand, is to be celebrated and is not considered shameful.

<disclaimer>.... Not stating *anything* as wrong or right, just stating facts that I've noticed, and have been told.
 
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A 14 minute video, and you posted 8 minutes later. I don't know what you should take from that.
It didn't take watching the whole video to figure it out.
Good, but Chesterfield is a cigarette. I'm Chesterton.
That was not the reference, but in retrospect, you don't deserve it.
 
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It didn't take watching the whole video to figure it out.

That was not the reference, but in retrospect, you don't deserve it.
What makes you hate your heritage?
 
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No, they've not slid down, they've risen up. Not far enough, but they're on the right track.

Does this man speak for you, or will you be rebutting his stated opinions?
 
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