Democratic Party Platform without Trump

rambot · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
It's hard to get to the real facts, because we keep hearing stories of anecdotal evidence, of this or that person's testimony on the internet, but as far as actual statistics, on how many immigrants are actually being deported for absolutely bogus reasons,

The issue is that...honestly now, this number should be "zero".
There IS anecdotal evidence of ridiculous charges; stories of innocent univeristy PhD Candidates who missed filing paperwork for 3 monthsn and she gets deported.

I hope you could understand that MAYBE a certain government body isn't going to be realyl quick to publicize all of the absurd and bogus deportations.

Landon Caeli said:
like filling a quota, we don't see the data.

I suppose that plausible deniability can work for that reason.

But you may recall that the argument was to keep America SAFER and that SOOOO many violent illegals are getting removed.

Well,
The CATO Institute is a VERY right leaning body...... 5% had violent convictions
And 73% had NO convictions.

That data point, ALL ON IT'S own, can tell you the TRUE purpose of ICE's work and no reasonable person should be thinking they were trying to "clean up our streets".

Pommer · May 13, 2026

Vambram said:
To me, this sounds like socialism.

…which is “bad”?

Say it aint so · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Yeah, between the cobwebs somewhere, made up of cracking, crumbling concrete walls.

It was deemed outdated and was dismantled in late 2025/early 2026

Great. Not sure if it has been dismantled.

Tropical Wilds · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Nobody knows. Otherwise it could be explained. But the fact is, it's an evolving term that changes all the time, and is an umbrella term for dozens of different sub-branches.

...There is no single definition for socialism, except that it's a general umbrella term for many different things.

Socialism has a lot in common with astrology. Both are baloney concepts based in fantasy.

Plenty of people know and have explained it, including here.

DaisyDay · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Yeah, between the cobwebs somewhere, made up of cracking, crumbling concrete walls.

It was deemed outdated and was dismantled in late 2025/early 2026

What evidence do you have that this is true? We know the East Wing was, but almost nothing of what the bunker was or will be.

mark46 · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Communism is another branch of socialism... But you can't sit there and claim to know the true definition of "Socialism", just because you like Democratic Socialism, which is a definable term.

I apologize if I misled. I didn't mean to imply that there is one "true" defintion of socialism.

Yes, Democratic Solicalism is a definable term.
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Communism is sometimes called state socialism in the modern era, defined by centralized control of power and resources, and yes, ownership of key industries by the state (in the name of the people.

The word "communism" is also used to define communities that hold resources in common, as in a kibbutz or a cooperative. Many think of biblical communities run by one family as being communist. Jesus seems to support this kind of community.

Say it aint so · May 13, 2026

DaisyDay said:
What evidence do you have that this is true? We know the East Wing was, but almost nothing of what the bunker was or will be.

If it true the existing bunker has been demolished, it's just another Trump wayward move.

Gene2memE · May 13, 2026

Landon Caeli said:
Nobody knows what socialism is. I say it's a make-believe abstraction of thought's based on anti-capitalist sentiment.

Capitalism has existed for millenia, while "socialism" as a philosophy of anti-capitalism, has been shaped, and reshaped, over and over again in people's minds for about 200 years.

It's made of the same stuff rainbows are made of. You can't catch it, sample it, or test it, because it's just a word, that has no true meaning.

Thanks for letting us know no one should ever pay any attention to anything you have to say on political economy.

Deeply informative.

mark46 · May 13, 2026

The issue with regard to Trump's immigration effort is much more about methods that actual deportations. Trump SHOULD be known for closing down the flow of undocumented who used to cross at our Southern border. Instead, he will be known for ICE raids in MN and sending thugs into schools, churches and workplaces ending up arresting citizens and then giving them no due process.

Perhaps Trump will reach the numbers of the Deport-In-Chief, perhaps not.

Trump WILL be known for the Home Depot raids and raids of cities.

Trump WILL be known for wanting to build dozens of ICE prisons to be holding camps for the undocumented, many larger than any other prisons in the US.

Trump WILL be known for wanting to deport many millions who have worked here and paid taxes for decades (and their children).

Trump WILL be known for sending deportees to 3rd countries and refusing to obey court orders.

mark46 · May 13, 2026

Many folks would like all of those with brown skin color to paste an ID to their bodies to prevent ICE from attacking them.

Always in His Presence · May 13, 2026

mark46 said:
Many folks would like all of those with brown skin color to paste an ID to their bodies to prevent ICE from attacking them.

From the point of view from a :brown skin colored" son of a LEGAL immigrant - your post is offensive and racist in nature. Please show some respect.

Many brown skinned people would like the left to just stop using them as victims - we are not. Thank you for your attention

Always in His Presence · May 13, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
What is it? Remove Trump from the picture and what are the Party Platforms.

This is a no Trump zone.

Well - there were 9 out of 91 posts actually on topic - everything else is Trump related. I actually fell for it!

Sad statement

Nithavela · May 13, 2026

Always in His Presence said:
Well - there were 9 out of 91 posts actually on topic - everything else is Trump related. I actually fell for it!

Sad statement

Well.. you asked a simple question and got answers. What else would you desire? Crickets?

Hans Blaster · May 13, 2026

Nithavela said:
Well.. you asked a simple question and got answers. What else would you desire? Crickets?

what does the OP desire? To control the discussion of what Americans and non-Trumpists want from a political party.

Always in His Presence · May 13, 2026

Hans Blaster said:
what does the OP desire? To control the discussion of what Americans and non-Trumpists want from a political party.

How about an open line of communication of what the Democratic Party stands for.

Always in His Presence · May 13, 2026

Nithavela said:
Well.. you asked a simple question and got answers. What else would you desire? Crickets?

Are you saying there is no platform?

FreeinChrist · May 13, 2026

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