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(Staff edit)Let's take a look at Chadash, chadesh.
Without me watching an hour and a half video to find your evidence. I assume the leg you stand on is the Masoretic text use of the vowel marks is incorrect because the Scrolls found Quran caves do not support it. Am I right?
That my friend poses a serious issue.
If my search engine is correct, the Holy Writ in respect to "Chadesh" has 63 Occurrences if we do away with the vowel marks. That leaves us in the dark; subject to our own interpretation, or us thinking we are led by God's Spirit or prayerfully us being led by God's Holy Spirit. And or us relying on the LXX as the given interpretation, through our own interpretation of it or through God's Spirit. Which is still subject to ours's at times, as is the Masoretic due to not hearing God's voice at times or not at all as we might be caught up in ourselves.
Out of the 63 only 20 use the suffix ה in the spelling חֲדָשָׁה֙. As you might know the suffix denotes permanence, state of being. In other words makes the word a noun not a verb. Here they are.
Lev 23:16 עַ֣ד ʿa֣ḏ Even unto מִֽ mīֽמָּחֳרַ֤ת moḥŏra֤ṯ the morrow הַ haשַּׁבָּת֙ śּaboṯ֙ sabbath הַ haשְּׁבִיעִ֔ת śּəḇîʿī֔ṯ after the seventh תִּסְפְּר֖וּ tīsəpər֖ûi shall ye number חֲמִשִּׁ֣ים ḥămīśּī֣ym fifty י֑וֹם y֑ôm days וְ wəהִקְרַבְתֶּ֛ם hīqəraḇəte֛m and ye shall offer מִנְחָ֥ה mīnəḥo֥h meat offering חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h a new לַ laיהוָֽה׃ yhwoֽh. unto the LORD
A new meat offering not renewed
Num 28:26 וּ ûiבְ ḇəי֣וֹם y֣ôm Also in the day הַ haבִּכּוּרִ֗ים bīkûirī֗ym of the firstfruits בְּ bəהַקְרִ֨יבְ haqərī֨yḇəכֶ֜ם ḵe֜m when ye bring מִנְחָ֤ה mīnəḥo֤h meat offering חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new לַֽ laֽיהוָ֔ה yhwo֔h unto the LORD בְּ bəשָׁבֻעֹ֖תֵי śoḇūʿō֖ṯêכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m after your weeks מִֽקְרָא־ mīֽqəroʾ- convocation קֹ֙דֶשׁ֙ qō֙ḏeś֙ [be out] ye shall have an holy יִהְיֶ֣ה yīhəye֣h shall have לָ loכֶ֔ם ḵe֔m כָּל־ kol- all manner מְלֶ֥אכֶת məle֥ʾḵeṯ work עֲבֹדָ֖ה ʿăḇōḏo֖h no servile לֹ֥א lō֥ʾ not תַעֲשֽׂוּ׃ ṯaʿăšֽûi. ye shall do
A new meat offering not renewed
Deut 24:5 כִּֽי־ kīֽy- When יִקַּ֥ח yīqa֥ḥ hath taken אִישׁ֙ ʾîś֙ When a man אִשָּׁ֣ה ʾīśּo֣h wife חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h a new לֹ֤א lō֤ʾ nor יֵצֵא֙ yēṣēʾ֙ he shall not go out בַּ baצָּבָ֔א ṣoḇo֔ʾ to war וְ wəלֹא־ lōʾ- nor יַעֲבֹ֥ר yaʿăḇō֥r neither shall he be charged עָלָ֖י ʿolo֖yו w with לְ ləכָל־ ḵol- any דָּבָ֑ר doḇo֑r with any business נָקִ֞י noqī֞y [but] he shall be free יִהְיֶ֤ה yīhəye֤h become לְ ləבֵית ḇêṯוֹ֙ ô֙ at home שָׁנָ֣ה śono֣h year אֶחָ֔ת ʾeḥo֔ṯ one וְ wəשִׂמַּ֖ח šīma֖ḥ and shall cheer up אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אִשְׁתּ֥ ʾīśət֥וֹ ô his wife אֲשֶׁר־ ʾăśer- whom לָקָֽח׃ loqoֽḥ. which he hath taken ס s
A new wife not renewed
Josh 15:37 צְנָ֥ן ṣəno֥n Zenan וַ waחֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h and Hadashah וּ ûiמִגְדַּל־ mīḡədal- גָּֽד׃ goֽḏ. and Migdalgad
Name of a city
1Sam 6:7 וְ wəעַתָּ֗ה ʿato֗h Now קְח֨וּ qəḥ֨ûi and take וַ waעֲשׂ֜וּ ʿăš֜ûi Now therefore make עֲגָלָ֤ה ʿăḡolo֤h cart חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ new אֶחָ֔ת ʾeḥo֔ṯ a וּ ûiשְׁתֵּ֤י śətē֤y two פָרוֹת֙ p̄orôṯ֙ kine עָל֔וֹת ʿol֔ôṯ milch אֲשֶׁ֛ר ʾăśe֛r which לֹא־ lōʾ- has never עָלָ֥ה ʿolo֥h on which there hath come עֲלֵי ʿălêהֶ֖ם he֖m and עֹ֑ל ʿō֑l no yoke וַ waאֲסַרְתֶּ֤ם ʾăsarəte֤m and tie אֶת־ ʾeṯ- הַ haפָּרוֹת֙ porôṯ֙ the kine בָּ boעֲגָלָ֔ה ʿăḡolo֔h to the cart וַ waהֲשֵׁיבֹתֶ֧ם hăśêḇōṯe֧m and bring בְּנֵי bənêהֶ֛ם he֛m their calves מֵ mēאַחֲרֵי ʾaḥărêהֶ֖ם he֖m from them הַ haבָּֽיְתָ boֽyəṯoה׃ h. home
New cart not renewed
2Sam 6:3 וַ waיַּרְכִּ֜בוּ yarəkī֜ḇûi And they set אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אֲר֤וֹן ʾăr֤ôn the ark הָֽ hoֽאֱלֹהִים֙ ʾĕlōhîm֙ of God אֶל־ ʾel- about עֲגָלָ֣ה ʿăḡolo֣h cart חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h upon a new וַ waיִּשָּׂאֻ֔ yīšּoʾū֔הוּ hûi and brought מִ mīבֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ it out of the house אֲבִינָדָ֖ב ʾăḇînoḏo֖ḇ of Abinadab אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which בַּ baגִּבְעָ֑ה gīḇəʿo֑h the hill וְ wəעֻזָּ֣א ʿūzo֣ʾ and Uzzah וְ wəאַחְי֗וֹ ʾaḥəy֗ô and Ahio בְּנֵי֙ bənê֙ the sons אֲבִ֣ינָדָ֔ב ʾăḇī֣ynoḏo֔ḇ of Abinadab נֹהֲגִ֖ים nōhăḡī֖ym drave אֶת־ ʾeṯ- הָ hoעֲגָלָ֥ה ʿăḡolo֥h cart חֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. the new
New cart not renewed.
2Sam 21:16 [וְיִשְׁבֹּו wəyīśəbōw כ ḵ ] (וְיִשְׁבִּ֨י wəyīśəbī֨y ק q ) בְּנֹ֜ב bənō֜ḇ And Ishbibenob אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r ׀ ׀ who בִּ bīילִידֵ֣י ylîḏē֣y which [was] of the sons הָ hoרָפָ֗ה rop̄o֗h of the giant וּ ûiמִשְׁקַ֤ל mīśəqa֤l the weight קֵינ qênוֹ֙ ô֙ of whose spear שְׁלֹ֤שׁ śəlō֤ś [weighed] three מֵאוֹת֙ mēʾôṯ֙ hundred מִשְׁקַ֣ל mīśəqa֣l in weight נְחֹ֔שֶׁת nəḥō֔śeṯ [shekels] of brass וְ wəה֖וּא h֖ûiʾ he חָג֣וּר ḥoḡ֣ûir he being girded חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h with a new וַ waיֹּ֖אמֶר yō֖ʾmer [sword] thought לְ ləהַכּ֥וֹת hak֥ôṯ to have slain אֶת־ ʾeṯ- דָּוִֽד׃ dowīֽḏ. David
Girded with a new not renewed
1Kgs 11:29 וַֽ waֽיְהִי֙ yəhî֙ came בָּ boעֵ֣ת ʿē֣ṯ And it came to pass at that time הַ haהִ֔יא hī֔yʾ he וְ wəיָֽרָבְעָ֖ם yoֽroḇəʿo֖m when Jeroboam יָצָ֣א yoṣo֣ʾ went out מִ mīירוּשָׁלִָ֑ם yrûiśolīo֑m of Jerusalem וַ waיִּמְצָ֣א yīməṣo֣ʾ found אֹת֡ ʾōṯ֡וֹ ô אֲחִיָּה֩ ʾăḥîּâ֩ Ahijah הַ haשִּׁילֹנִ֨י śּîlōnī֨y the Shilonite הַ haנָּבִ֜יא noḇī֜yʾ that the prophet בַּ baדֶּ֗רֶךְ de֗reḵə him in the way וְ wəה֤וּא h֤ûiʾ now Ahijah מִתְכַּסֶּה֙ mīṯəkaseh֙ and he had clad בְּ bəשַׂלְמָ֣ה šaləmo֣h garment חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h himself with a new וּ ûiשְׁנֵי śənêהֶ֥ם he֥m and they two לְ ləבַדָּ֖ ḇado֖ם m were alone בַּ baשָּׂדֶֽה׃ šּoḏeֽh. [were] alone in the field
A new garment not renewed
1Kgs 11:30 וַ waיִּתְפֹּ֣שׂ yīṯəpō֣š caught אֲחִיָּ֔ה ʾăḥîּo֔h And Ahijah בַּ baשַּׂלְמָ֥ה šּaləmo֥h garment הַ haחֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h the new אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which עָלָ֑י ʿolo֑yו w was on וַ waיִּ֨קְרָעֶ֔ yī֨qəroʿe֔הָ ho that [was] on him and rent שְׁנֵ֥ים śənē֥ym both עָשָׂ֖ר ʿošo֖r ten קְרָעִֽים׃ qəroʿīֽym. pieces
New garment rent in 12 pieces not renewed
2Kgs 2:20 וַ waיֹּ֗אמֶר yō֗ʾmer And he said קְחוּ־ qəḥûi- Bring לִ līי֙ y֙ צְלֹחִ֣ית ṣəlōḥī֣yṯ cruse חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h me a new וְ wəשִׂ֥ימוּ šī֥ymûi and put שָׁ֖ם śo֖m in it מֶ֑לַח me֑laḥ salt וַ waיִּקְח֖וּ yīqəḥ֖ûi therein And they brought אֵלָֽי ʾēloֽyו׃ w. about
A new cruse not renewed
1Chr 13:7 וַ waיַּרְכִּ֜יבוּ yarəkī֜yḇûi And they carried אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אֲר֤וֹן ʾăr֤ôn the ark הָ hoאֱלֹהִים֙ ʾĕlōhîm֙ of God עַל־ ʿal- and עֲגָלָ֣ה ʿăḡolo֣h cart חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h in a new מִ mīבֵּ֖ית bē֖yṯ out of the house אֲבִינָדָ֑ב ʾăḇînoḏo֑ḇ of Abinadab וְ wəעֻזָּ֣א ʿūzo֣ʾ and Uzza וְ wəאַחְי֔וֹ ʾaḥəy֔ô and Ahio נֹהֲגִ֖ים nōhăḡī֖ym drave בָּ boעֲגָלָֽה׃ ʿăḡoloֽh. the cart
A new cart not renewed
2Chr 20:5 וַ waיַּעֲמֹ֣ד yaʿămō֣ḏ stood יְהוֹשָׁפָ֗ט yəhôśop̄o֗ṭ And Jehoshaphat בִּ bīקְהַ֧ל qəha֧l in the congregation יְהוּדָ֛ה yəhûiḏo֛h of Judah וִ wīירוּשָׁלִַ֖ם yrûiśolīa֖m and Jerusalem בְּ bəבֵ֣ית ḇē֣yṯ in the house יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h of the LORD לִ līפְנֵ֖י p̄ənē֖y before הֶ heחָצֵ֥ר ḥoṣē֥r court הַ haחֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. the new
This one could go either way. New court or renewed. But I tend to think it is new because when Asa heard and heeded the Prophet Oded he addressed the altar. In the KJV it says renewed the Alter in 2 Chron 15:8. But since it was desecrated I think the old was destroyed and another was built. At this time the court would have rebuilt also being desecrated. Couple that with the fact that all the evidence thus far shows us when the word is used with the spelling being the way it is in Jer 31:31-33 it is in relation with something being New not renewed.
Isa 43:19 הִנְ hīnəנִ֨י nī֨y behold עֹשֶׂ֤ה ʿōše֤h Behold I will do חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new thing עַתָּ֣ה ʿato֣h Now תִצְמָ֔ח ṯīṣəmo֔ḥ now it shall spring forth הֲ hăל֖וֹא l֖ôʾ not תֵֽדָע֑וּ ṯēֽḏoʿ֑ûiהָ ho shall ye not know אַ֣ף ʾa֣p̄ will even אָשִׂ֤ים ʾošī֤ym it? I will even make בַּ baמִּדְבָּר֙ mīḏəbor֙ in the wilderness דֶּ֔רֶךְ de֔reḵə a way בִּֽ bīֽישִׁמ֖וֹן yśīm֖ôn in the desert נְהָרֽוֹת׃ nəhorֽôṯ. [and] rivers
A new thing not renewed according to context.
Isa 65:17 כִּֽי־ kīֽy- for הִנְ hīnəנִ֥י nī֥y behold בוֹרֵ֛א ḇôrē֛ʾ For behold I create שָׁמַ֥יִם śoma֥yīm heavens חֲדָשִׁ֖ים ḥăḏośī֖ym new וָ woאָ֣רֶץ ʾo֣reṣ earth חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h and a new וְ wəלֹ֤א lō֤ʾ not תִזָּכַ֙רְנָה֙ ṯīzoḵa֙rənâ֙ shall not be remembered הָ hoרִ֣אשֹׁנ֔וֹת rī֣ʾśōn֔ôṯ and the former וְ wəלֹ֥א lō֥ʾ or תַעֲלֶ֖ינָה ṯaʿăle֖ynâ nor come עַל־ ʿal- unto לֵֽב׃ lēֽḇ. into mind
Here we have a contrast which is nice. We have in respect the new heavens חֲדָשִׁ֖ים. As you can see this time the word in question has the suffix ם. As you might know this modifies the word to it's masculine plural form. (I will look more in depth at it's uses later) And we have חֲדָשָׁ֑ה in respect to the earth being new or renewed. Peter prophesying in regard to the day of the Lord in 2Pet 3:10 says the earth shall λύω in the Greek. Translated melt in the KJV but is defined, loosened in the sense of being destroyed in the BDAG Lexicon. The citation is below for your convenience. With this in mind we see that the earth being melted (loosened) by fervent heat is not the same as it being decimated, raised like a city that can be rebuilt from the ruins, renewed. If it is dissolved it has no form and must be made NEW.
2 Pet 3:10 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
BDAG: to reduce someth. by violence into its components, destroy (Iren. 1, 8, 1 [Harv. I 67, 9]), of a building tear down (Il. 16, 10; X., An. 2, 4, 17f; Herodian 7, 1, 7; 1 Esdr 1:52; Jos., Bell. 6, 32; SibOr 3, 409) τ. ναὸν τοῦτον J 2:19. τὸ μεσότοιχον Eph 2:14 (in imagery).—ἡ πρύμνα ἐλύετο the stern began to break up Ac 27:41 (PLond III 1164h, 19 p. 164 [III A.D.] uses λ. of the dismantling of a ship). Of the parts of the universe, as it is broken up and destroyed in the final conflagration 2 Pt 3:10–12
Isa 66:22 כִּ֣י kī֣y for כַ ḵaאֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r Which הַ haשָּׁמַ֣יִם śּoma֣yīm heavens הַ֠ ha֠חֳדָשִׁים ḥŏḏośîm For as the new וְ wəהָ hoאָ֨רֶץ ʾo֨reṣ earth הַ ha חֲדָשָׁ֜ה ḥăḏośo֜h and the new אֲשֶׁ֨ר ʾăśe֨r Which אֲנִ֥י ʾănī֥y I עֹשֶׂ֛ה ʿōše֛h which I will make עֹמְדִ֥ים ʿōməḏī֥ym shall remain לְ ləפָנַ֖ p̄ona֖י y before נְאֻם־ nəʾūm- me saith יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h the LORD כֵּ֛ן kē֛n So יַעֲמֹ֥ד yaʿămō֥ḏ remain זַרְעֲ zarəʿăכֶ֖ם ḵe֖m so shall your seed וְ wəשִׁמְ śīməכֶֽם׃ ḵeֽm. and your name
New not renew for He will make not remake. For the FIRST Earth and Heaven shall melt, disolve with fervent and shall be no more.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Jer 31:22 עַד־ ʿaḏ- against מָתַי֙ moṯai֙ How תִּתְחַמָּקִ֔י tīṯəḥamoqī֔yן n How long wilt thou go about הַ haבַּ֖ת ba֖ṯ first הַ haשּֽׁוֹבֵבָ֑ה śּֽôḇēḇo֑h O thou backsliding כִּֽי־ kīֽy- for בָרָ֨א ḇoro֨ʾ hath created יְהוָ֤ה yəhwo֤h the Lord חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new thing בָּ boאָ֔רֶץ ʾo֔reṣ in the earth נְקֵבָ֖ה nəqēḇo֖h A woman תְּס֥וֹבֵֽב təs֥ôḇēֽḇ shall compass גָּֽבֶר׃ goֽḇer. a man ס s
The Lord have CREATED a new thing in the earth a women shall compass a man. New not renewed for it is not like anything before. It is created, new.
Jer 31:31 הִנֵּ֛ה hīnē֛h Behold יָמִ֥ים yomī֥ym Behold the days בָּאִ֖ים boʾī֖ym come נְאֻם־ nəʾūm- saith יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h the LORD וְ wəכָרַתִּ֗י ḵoratī֗y that I will make אֶת־ ʾeṯ- with בֵּ֧ית bē֧yṯ with the house יִשְׂרָאֵ֛ל yīšəroʾē֛l of Israel וְ wəאֶת־ ʾeṯ- and with בֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ and with the house יְהוּדָ֖ה yəhûiḏo֖h of Judah בְּרִ֥ית bərī֥yṯ covenant חֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. a new
With verse 22's use of the word in question we find ourselves Here we are at the verse in questioned and the context of the passages should be enough for you along with the evidence thus far. What do I mean by context? The text literally says that this new covenant is not like the covenant before. Therefore It is new not renewed. Especially considering how it was just used in Jer 31:22
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Ezek 11:19 וְ wəנָתַתִּ֤י noṯatī֤y And I will give לָ loהֶם֙ hem֙ לֵ֣ב lē֣ḇ heart אֶחָ֔ד ʾeḥo֔ḏ them one וְ wəר֥וּחַ r֥ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h a new אֶתֵּ֣ן ʾetē֣n and I will put בְּ bəקִרְבְּ qīrəbəכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m within וַ waהֲסִ֨רֹתִ֜י hăsī֨rōṯī֜y you and I will take לֵ֤ב lē֤ḇ heart הָ hoאֶ֙בֶן֙ ʾe֙ḇen֙ the stony מִ mīבְּשָׂרָ֔ bəšoro֔ם m out of their flesh וְ wəנָתַתִּ֥י noṯatī֥y and will give לָ loהֶ֖ם he֖m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ them an heart בָּשָֽׂר׃ bošoֽr. of flesh
He will give us One heart with a new Spirit, His.
Ezek 18:31 הַשְׁלִ֣יכוּ haśəlī֣yḵûi Cast away מֵ mēעֲלֵי ʿălêכֶ֗ם ḵe֗m and אֶת־ ʾeṯ- כָּל־ kol- all פִּשְׁעֵי pīśəʿêכֶם֙ ḵem֙ from you all your transgressions אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which פְּשַׁעְתֶּ֣ם pəśaʿəte֣m whereby ye have transgressed בָּ֔ bo֔ם m וַ waעֲשׂ֥וּ ʿăš֥ûi and make לָ loכֶ֛ם ḵe֛m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ heart חָדָ֖שׁ ḥoḏo֖ś you a new וְ wəר֣וּחַ r֣ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h and a new וְ wəלָ֥ lo֥מָּה mâ why תָמֻ֖תוּ ṯomū֖ṯûi for why will ye die בֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ O house יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃ yīšəroʾēֽl. Israel
A new Spirit not renewed for we did not have the right Spirit, His in the first place
Ezek 36:26 וְ wəנָתַתִּ֤י noṯatī֤y also will I give לָ loכֶם֙ ḵem֙ לֵ֣ב lē֣ḇ heart חָדָ֔שׁ ḥoḏo֔ś A new וְ wəר֥וּחַ r֥ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h you and a new אֶתֵּ֣ן ʾetē֣n will I put בְּ bəקִרְבְּ qīrəbəכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m within וַ waהֲסִ֨רֹתִ֜י hăsī֨rōṯī֜y you and I will take away אֶת־ ʾeṯ- לֵ֤ב lē֤ḇ heart הָ hoאֶ֙בֶן֙ ʾe֙ḇen֙ the stony מִ mīבְּשַׂרְ bəšarəכֶ֔ם ḵe֔m out of your flesh וְ wəנָתַתִּ֥י noṯatī֥y and I will give לָ loכֶ֖ם ḵe֖m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ you an heart בָּשָֽׂר׃ bošoֽr. of flesh
Ezek 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
The evidence in respect to the Hebrew word that is translated new in Jer 31;31-33 and the Greek word translated new in the LXX is overwhelmingly against what you are sharing my friend. I pray you, @SabbathBlessings and others reconsider.
Without me watching an hour and a half video to find your evidence. I assume the leg you stand on is the Masoretic text use of the vowel marks is incorrect because the Scrolls found Quran caves do not support it. Am I right?
That my friend poses a serious issue.
If my search engine is correct, the Holy Writ in respect to "Chadesh" has 63 Occurrences if we do away with the vowel marks. That leaves us in the dark; subject to our own interpretation, or us thinking we are led by God's Spirit or prayerfully us being led by God's Holy Spirit. And or us relying on the LXX as the given interpretation, through our own interpretation of it or through God's Spirit. Which is still subject to ours's at times, as is the Masoretic due to not hearing God's voice at times or not at all as we might be caught up in ourselves.
Out of the 63 only 20 use the suffix ה in the spelling חֲדָשָׁה֙. As you might know the suffix denotes permanence, state of being. In other words makes the word a noun not a verb. Here they are.
Lev 23:16 עַ֣ד ʿa֣ḏ Even unto מִֽ mīֽמָּחֳרַ֤ת moḥŏra֤ṯ the morrow הַ haשַּׁבָּת֙ śּaboṯ֙ sabbath הַ haשְּׁבִיעִ֔ת śּəḇîʿī֔ṯ after the seventh תִּסְפְּר֖וּ tīsəpər֖ûi shall ye number חֲמִשִּׁ֣ים ḥămīśּī֣ym fifty י֑וֹם y֑ôm days וְ wəהִקְרַבְתֶּ֛ם hīqəraḇəte֛m and ye shall offer מִנְחָ֥ה mīnəḥo֥h meat offering חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h a new לַ laיהוָֽה׃ yhwoֽh. unto the LORD
A new meat offering not renewed
Num 28:26 וּ ûiבְ ḇəי֣וֹם y֣ôm Also in the day הַ haבִּכּוּרִ֗ים bīkûirī֗ym of the firstfruits בְּ bəהַקְרִ֨יבְ haqərī֨yḇəכֶ֜ם ḵe֜m when ye bring מִנְחָ֤ה mīnəḥo֤h meat offering חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new לַֽ laֽיהוָ֔ה yhwo֔h unto the LORD בְּ bəשָׁבֻעֹ֖תֵי śoḇūʿō֖ṯêכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m after your weeks מִֽקְרָא־ mīֽqəroʾ- convocation קֹ֙דֶשׁ֙ qō֙ḏeś֙ [be out] ye shall have an holy יִהְיֶ֣ה yīhəye֣h shall have לָ loכֶ֔ם ḵe֔m כָּל־ kol- all manner מְלֶ֥אכֶת məle֥ʾḵeṯ work עֲבֹדָ֖ה ʿăḇōḏo֖h no servile לֹ֥א lō֥ʾ not תַעֲשֽׂוּ׃ ṯaʿăšֽûi. ye shall do
A new meat offering not renewed
Deut 24:5 כִּֽי־ kīֽy- When יִקַּ֥ח yīqa֥ḥ hath taken אִישׁ֙ ʾîś֙ When a man אִשָּׁ֣ה ʾīśּo֣h wife חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h a new לֹ֤א lō֤ʾ nor יֵצֵא֙ yēṣēʾ֙ he shall not go out בַּ baצָּבָ֔א ṣoḇo֔ʾ to war וְ wəלֹא־ lōʾ- nor יַעֲבֹ֥ר yaʿăḇō֥r neither shall he be charged עָלָ֖י ʿolo֖yו w with לְ ləכָל־ ḵol- any דָּבָ֑ר doḇo֑r with any business נָקִ֞י noqī֞y [but] he shall be free יִהְיֶ֤ה yīhəye֤h become לְ ləבֵית ḇêṯוֹ֙ ô֙ at home שָׁנָ֣ה śono֣h year אֶחָ֔ת ʾeḥo֔ṯ one וְ wəשִׂמַּ֖ח šīma֖ḥ and shall cheer up אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אִשְׁתּ֥ ʾīśət֥וֹ ô his wife אֲשֶׁר־ ʾăśer- whom לָקָֽח׃ loqoֽḥ. which he hath taken ס s
A new wife not renewed
Josh 15:37 צְנָ֥ן ṣəno֥n Zenan וַ waחֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h and Hadashah וּ ûiמִגְדַּל־ mīḡədal- גָּֽד׃ goֽḏ. and Migdalgad
Name of a city
1Sam 6:7 וְ wəעַתָּ֗ה ʿato֗h Now קְח֨וּ qəḥ֨ûi and take וַ waעֲשׂ֜וּ ʿăš֜ûi Now therefore make עֲגָלָ֤ה ʿăḡolo֤h cart חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ new אֶחָ֔ת ʾeḥo֔ṯ a וּ ûiשְׁתֵּ֤י śətē֤y two פָרוֹת֙ p̄orôṯ֙ kine עָל֔וֹת ʿol֔ôṯ milch אֲשֶׁ֛ר ʾăśe֛r which לֹא־ lōʾ- has never עָלָ֥ה ʿolo֥h on which there hath come עֲלֵי ʿălêהֶ֖ם he֖m and עֹ֑ל ʿō֑l no yoke וַ waאֲסַרְתֶּ֤ם ʾăsarəte֤m and tie אֶת־ ʾeṯ- הַ haפָּרוֹת֙ porôṯ֙ the kine בָּ boעֲגָלָ֔ה ʿăḡolo֔h to the cart וַ waהֲשֵׁיבֹתֶ֧ם hăśêḇōṯe֧m and bring בְּנֵי bənêהֶ֛ם he֛m their calves מֵ mēאַחֲרֵי ʾaḥărêהֶ֖ם he֖m from them הַ haבָּֽיְתָ boֽyəṯoה׃ h. home
New cart not renewed
2Sam 6:3 וַ waיַּרְכִּ֜בוּ yarəkī֜ḇûi And they set אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אֲר֤וֹן ʾăr֤ôn the ark הָֽ hoֽאֱלֹהִים֙ ʾĕlōhîm֙ of God אֶל־ ʾel- about עֲגָלָ֣ה ʿăḡolo֣h cart חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h upon a new וַ waיִּשָּׂאֻ֔ yīšּoʾū֔הוּ hûi and brought מִ mīבֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ it out of the house אֲבִינָדָ֖ב ʾăḇînoḏo֖ḇ of Abinadab אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which בַּ baגִּבְעָ֑ה gīḇəʿo֑h the hill וְ wəעֻזָּ֣א ʿūzo֣ʾ and Uzzah וְ wəאַחְי֗וֹ ʾaḥəy֗ô and Ahio בְּנֵי֙ bənê֙ the sons אֲבִ֣ינָדָ֔ב ʾăḇī֣ynoḏo֔ḇ of Abinadab נֹהֲגִ֖ים nōhăḡī֖ym drave אֶת־ ʾeṯ- הָ hoעֲגָלָ֥ה ʿăḡolo֥h cart חֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. the new
New cart not renewed.
2Sam 21:16 [וְיִשְׁבֹּו wəyīśəbōw כ ḵ ] (וְיִשְׁבִּ֨י wəyīśəbī֨y ק q ) בְּנֹ֜ב bənō֜ḇ And Ishbibenob אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r ׀ ׀ who בִּ bīילִידֵ֣י ylîḏē֣y which [was] of the sons הָ hoרָפָ֗ה rop̄o֗h of the giant וּ ûiמִשְׁקַ֤ל mīśəqa֤l the weight קֵינ qênוֹ֙ ô֙ of whose spear שְׁלֹ֤שׁ śəlō֤ś [weighed] three מֵאוֹת֙ mēʾôṯ֙ hundred מִשְׁקַ֣ל mīśəqa֣l in weight נְחֹ֔שֶׁת nəḥō֔śeṯ [shekels] of brass וְ wəה֖וּא h֖ûiʾ he חָג֣וּר ḥoḡ֣ûir he being girded חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h with a new וַ waיֹּ֖אמֶר yō֖ʾmer [sword] thought לְ ləהַכּ֥וֹת hak֥ôṯ to have slain אֶת־ ʾeṯ- דָּוִֽד׃ dowīֽḏ. David
Girded with a new not renewed
1Kgs 11:29 וַֽ waֽיְהִי֙ yəhî֙ came בָּ boעֵ֣ת ʿē֣ṯ And it came to pass at that time הַ haהִ֔יא hī֔yʾ he וְ wəיָֽרָבְעָ֖ם yoֽroḇəʿo֖m when Jeroboam יָצָ֣א yoṣo֣ʾ went out מִ mīירוּשָׁלִָ֑ם yrûiśolīo֑m of Jerusalem וַ waיִּמְצָ֣א yīməṣo֣ʾ found אֹת֡ ʾōṯ֡וֹ ô אֲחִיָּה֩ ʾăḥîּâ֩ Ahijah הַ haשִּׁילֹנִ֨י śּîlōnī֨y the Shilonite הַ haנָּבִ֜יא noḇī֜yʾ that the prophet בַּ baדֶּ֗רֶךְ de֗reḵə him in the way וְ wəה֤וּא h֤ûiʾ now Ahijah מִתְכַּסֶּה֙ mīṯəkaseh֙ and he had clad בְּ bəשַׂלְמָ֣ה šaləmo֣h garment חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h himself with a new וּ ûiשְׁנֵי śənêהֶ֥ם he֥m and they two לְ ləבַדָּ֖ ḇado֖ם m were alone בַּ baשָּׂדֶֽה׃ šּoḏeֽh. [were] alone in the field
A new garment not renewed
1Kgs 11:30 וַ waיִּתְפֹּ֣שׂ yīṯəpō֣š caught אֲחִיָּ֔ה ʾăḥîּo֔h And Ahijah בַּ baשַּׂלְמָ֥ה šּaləmo֥h garment הַ haחֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h the new אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which עָלָ֑י ʿolo֑yו w was on וַ waיִּ֨קְרָעֶ֔ yī֨qəroʿe֔הָ ho that [was] on him and rent שְׁנֵ֥ים śənē֥ym both עָשָׂ֖ר ʿošo֖r ten קְרָעִֽים׃ qəroʿīֽym. pieces
New garment rent in 12 pieces not renewed
2Kgs 2:20 וַ waיֹּ֗אמֶר yō֗ʾmer And he said קְחוּ־ qəḥûi- Bring לִ līי֙ y֙ צְלֹחִ֣ית ṣəlōḥī֣yṯ cruse חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h me a new וְ wəשִׂ֥ימוּ šī֥ymûi and put שָׁ֖ם śo֖m in it מֶ֑לַח me֑laḥ salt וַ waיִּקְח֖וּ yīqəḥ֖ûi therein And they brought אֵלָֽי ʾēloֽyו׃ w. about
A new cruse not renewed
1Chr 13:7 וַ waיַּרְכִּ֜יבוּ yarəkī֜yḇûi And they carried אֶת־ ʾeṯ- אֲר֤וֹן ʾăr֤ôn the ark הָ hoאֱלֹהִים֙ ʾĕlōhîm֙ of God עַל־ ʿal- and עֲגָלָ֣ה ʿăḡolo֣h cart חֲדָשָׁ֔ה ḥăḏośo֔h in a new מִ mīבֵּ֖ית bē֖yṯ out of the house אֲבִינָדָ֑ב ʾăḇînoḏo֑ḇ of Abinadab וְ wəעֻזָּ֣א ʿūzo֣ʾ and Uzza וְ wəאַחְי֔וֹ ʾaḥəy֔ô and Ahio נֹהֲגִ֖ים nōhăḡī֖ym drave בָּ boעֲגָלָֽה׃ ʿăḡoloֽh. the cart
A new cart not renewed
2Chr 20:5 וַ waיַּעֲמֹ֣ד yaʿămō֣ḏ stood יְהוֹשָׁפָ֗ט yəhôśop̄o֗ṭ And Jehoshaphat בִּ bīקְהַ֧ל qəha֧l in the congregation יְהוּדָ֛ה yəhûiḏo֛h of Judah וִ wīירוּשָׁלִַ֖ם yrûiśolīa֖m and Jerusalem בְּ bəבֵ֣ית ḇē֣yṯ in the house יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h of the LORD לִ līפְנֵ֖י p̄ənē֖y before הֶ heחָצֵ֥ר ḥoṣē֥r court הַ haחֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. the new
This one could go either way. New court or renewed. But I tend to think it is new because when Asa heard and heeded the Prophet Oded he addressed the altar. In the KJV it says renewed the Alter in 2 Chron 15:8. But since it was desecrated I think the old was destroyed and another was built. At this time the court would have rebuilt also being desecrated. Couple that with the fact that all the evidence thus far shows us when the word is used with the spelling being the way it is in Jer 31:31-33 it is in relation with something being New not renewed.
Isa 43:19 הִנְ hīnəנִ֨י nī֨y behold עֹשֶׂ֤ה ʿōše֤h Behold I will do חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new thing עַתָּ֣ה ʿato֣h Now תִצְמָ֔ח ṯīṣəmo֔ḥ now it shall spring forth הֲ hăל֖וֹא l֖ôʾ not תֵֽדָע֑וּ ṯēֽḏoʿ֑ûiהָ ho shall ye not know אַ֣ף ʾa֣p̄ will even אָשִׂ֤ים ʾošī֤ym it? I will even make בַּ baמִּדְבָּר֙ mīḏəbor֙ in the wilderness דֶּ֔רֶךְ de֔reḵə a way בִּֽ bīֽישִׁמ֖וֹן yśīm֖ôn in the desert נְהָרֽוֹת׃ nəhorֽôṯ. [and] rivers
A new thing not renewed according to context.
Isa 65:17 כִּֽי־ kīֽy- for הִנְ hīnəנִ֥י nī֥y behold בוֹרֵ֛א ḇôrē֛ʾ For behold I create שָׁמַ֥יִם śoma֥yīm heavens חֲדָשִׁ֖ים ḥăḏośī֖ym new וָ woאָ֣רֶץ ʾo֣reṣ earth חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h and a new וְ wəלֹ֤א lō֤ʾ not תִזָּכַ֙רְנָה֙ ṯīzoḵa֙rənâ֙ shall not be remembered הָ hoרִ֣אשֹׁנ֔וֹת rī֣ʾśōn֔ôṯ and the former וְ wəלֹ֥א lō֥ʾ or תַעֲלֶ֖ינָה ṯaʿăle֖ynâ nor come עַל־ ʿal- unto לֵֽב׃ lēֽḇ. into mind
Here we have a contrast which is nice. We have in respect the new heavens חֲדָשִׁ֖ים. As you can see this time the word in question has the suffix ם. As you might know this modifies the word to it's masculine plural form. (I will look more in depth at it's uses later) And we have חֲדָשָׁ֑ה in respect to the earth being new or renewed. Peter prophesying in regard to the day of the Lord in 2Pet 3:10 says the earth shall λύω in the Greek. Translated melt in the KJV but is defined, loosened in the sense of being destroyed in the BDAG Lexicon. The citation is below for your convenience. With this in mind we see that the earth being melted (loosened) by fervent heat is not the same as it being decimated, raised like a city that can be rebuilt from the ruins, renewed. If it is dissolved it has no form and must be made NEW.
2 Pet 3:10 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
BDAG: to reduce someth. by violence into its components, destroy (Iren. 1, 8, 1 [Harv. I 67, 9]), of a building tear down (Il. 16, 10; X., An. 2, 4, 17f; Herodian 7, 1, 7; 1 Esdr 1:52; Jos., Bell. 6, 32; SibOr 3, 409) τ. ναὸν τοῦτον J 2:19. τὸ μεσότοιχον Eph 2:14 (in imagery).—ἡ πρύμνα ἐλύετο the stern began to break up Ac 27:41 (PLond III 1164h, 19 p. 164 [III A.D.] uses λ. of the dismantling of a ship). Of the parts of the universe, as it is broken up and destroyed in the final conflagration 2 Pt 3:10–12
Isa 66:22 כִּ֣י kī֣y for כַ ḵaאֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r Which הַ haשָּׁמַ֣יִם śּoma֣yīm heavens הַ֠ ha֠חֳדָשִׁים ḥŏḏośîm For as the new וְ wəהָ hoאָ֨רֶץ ʾo֨reṣ earth הַ ha חֲדָשָׁ֜ה ḥăḏośo֜h and the new אֲשֶׁ֨ר ʾăśe֨r Which אֲנִ֥י ʾănī֥y I עֹשֶׂ֛ה ʿōše֛h which I will make עֹמְדִ֥ים ʿōməḏī֥ym shall remain לְ ləפָנַ֖ p̄ona֖י y before נְאֻם־ nəʾūm- me saith יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h the LORD כֵּ֛ן kē֛n So יַעֲמֹ֥ד yaʿămō֥ḏ remain זַרְעֲ zarəʿăכֶ֖ם ḵe֖m so shall your seed וְ wəשִׁמְ śīməכֶֽם׃ ḵeֽm. and your name
New not renew for He will make not remake. For the FIRST Earth and Heaven shall melt, disolve with fervent and shall be no more.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Jer 31:22 עַד־ ʿaḏ- against מָתַי֙ moṯai֙ How תִּתְחַמָּקִ֔י tīṯəḥamoqī֔yן n How long wilt thou go about הַ haבַּ֖ת ba֖ṯ first הַ haשּֽׁוֹבֵבָ֑ה śּֽôḇēḇo֑h O thou backsliding כִּֽי־ kīֽy- for בָרָ֨א ḇoro֨ʾ hath created יְהוָ֤ה yəhwo֤h the Lord חֲדָשָׁה֙ ḥăḏośâ֙ a new thing בָּ boאָ֔רֶץ ʾo֔reṣ in the earth נְקֵבָ֖ה nəqēḇo֖h A woman תְּס֥וֹבֵֽב təs֥ôḇēֽḇ shall compass גָּֽבֶר׃ goֽḇer. a man ס s
The Lord have CREATED a new thing in the earth a women shall compass a man. New not renewed for it is not like anything before. It is created, new.
Jer 31:31 הִנֵּ֛ה hīnē֛h Behold יָמִ֥ים yomī֥ym Behold the days בָּאִ֖ים boʾī֖ym come נְאֻם־ nəʾūm- saith יְהוָ֑ה yəhwo֑h the LORD וְ wəכָרַתִּ֗י ḵoratī֗y that I will make אֶת־ ʾeṯ- with בֵּ֧ית bē֧yṯ with the house יִשְׂרָאֵ֛ל yīšəroʾē֛l of Israel וְ wəאֶת־ ʾeṯ- and with בֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ and with the house יְהוּדָ֖ה yəhûiḏo֖h of Judah בְּרִ֥ית bərī֥yṯ covenant חֲדָשָֽׁה׃ ḥăḏośoֽh. a new
With verse 22's use of the word in question we find ourselves Here we are at the verse in questioned and the context of the passages should be enough for you along with the evidence thus far. What do I mean by context? The text literally says that this new covenant is not like the covenant before. Therefore It is new not renewed. Especially considering how it was just used in Jer 31:22
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Ezek 11:19 וְ wəנָתַתִּ֤י noṯatī֤y And I will give לָ loהֶם֙ hem֙ לֵ֣ב lē֣ḇ heart אֶחָ֔ד ʾeḥo֔ḏ them one וְ wəר֥וּחַ r֥ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h a new אֶתֵּ֣ן ʾetē֣n and I will put בְּ bəקִרְבְּ qīrəbəכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m within וַ waהֲסִ֨רֹתִ֜י hăsī֨rōṯī֜y you and I will take לֵ֤ב lē֤ḇ heart הָ hoאֶ֙בֶן֙ ʾe֙ḇen֙ the stony מִ mīבְּשָׂרָ֔ bəšoro֔ם m out of their flesh וְ wəנָתַתִּ֥י noṯatī֥y and will give לָ loהֶ֖ם he֖m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ them an heart בָּשָֽׂר׃ bošoֽr. of flesh
He will give us One heart with a new Spirit, His.
Ezek 18:31 הַשְׁלִ֣יכוּ haśəlī֣yḵûi Cast away מֵ mēעֲלֵי ʿălêכֶ֗ם ḵe֗m and אֶת־ ʾeṯ- כָּל־ kol- all פִּשְׁעֵי pīśəʿêכֶם֙ ḵem֙ from you all your transgressions אֲשֶׁ֣ר ʾăśe֣r which פְּשַׁעְתֶּ֣ם pəśaʿəte֣m whereby ye have transgressed בָּ֔ bo֔ם m וַ waעֲשׂ֥וּ ʿăš֥ûi and make לָ loכֶ֛ם ḵe֛m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ heart חָדָ֖שׁ ḥoḏo֖ś you a new וְ wəר֣וּחַ r֣ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֑ה ḥăḏośo֑h and a new וְ wəלָ֥ lo֥מָּה mâ why תָמֻ֖תוּ ṯomū֖ṯûi for why will ye die בֵּ֥ית bē֥yṯ O house יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃ yīšəroʾēֽl. Israel
A new Spirit not renewed for we did not have the right Spirit, His in the first place
Ezek 36:26 וְ wəנָתַתִּ֤י noṯatī֤y also will I give לָ loכֶם֙ ḵem֙ לֵ֣ב lē֣ḇ heart חָדָ֔שׁ ḥoḏo֔ś A new וְ wəר֥וּחַ r֥ûiḥa spirit חֲדָשָׁ֖ה ḥăḏośo֖h you and a new אֶתֵּ֣ן ʾetē֣n will I put בְּ bəקִרְבְּ qīrəbəכֶ֑ם ḵe֑m within וַ waהֲסִ֨רֹתִ֜י hăsī֨rōṯī֜y you and I will take away אֶת־ ʾeṯ- לֵ֤ב lē֤ḇ heart הָ hoאֶ֙בֶן֙ ʾe֙ḇen֙ the stony מִ mīבְּשַׂרְ bəšarəכֶ֔ם ḵe֔m out of your flesh וְ wəנָתַתִּ֥י noṯatī֥y and I will give לָ loכֶ֖ם ḵe֖m לֵ֥ב lē֥ḇ you an heart בָּשָֽׂר׃ bošoֽr. of flesh
Ezek 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
The evidence in respect to the Hebrew word that is translated new in Jer 31;31-33 and the Greek word translated new in the LXX is overwhelmingly against what you are sharing my friend. I pray you, @SabbathBlessings and others reconsider.
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