If God is all-knowing, how can man have free will?

childeye 2 said:

but a person still needs the spirit of Christ to be that servant.

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Always in His Presence said:

I would gladly trade basic math skills for common curtesy skills any day of the week.

I think Duet 30:19 expresses what I am trying to express:

I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live;​

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timothyu said:

That is not "magic" but comes with understanding. We still have to be on guard because we are still all sinners.

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timothyu said:

Yes but that spirit is simply loving all as self.

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RDKirk said:

The father of the child was not an unbeliever--he said explicitly, "Lord, I believe."

Those three things say two important things: "Lord" implies acceptance of Jesus as Lord of at least his own life and fealty, if not quite the Lord's ability to create a miracle. And then he expressed his intention to believe, as much as he could accomplish it. "Help my unbelief" is not unbelief, it's a call for more support in what he was doing. He had, in fact, grasped the rope and was crying to be pulled up.

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childeye 2 said:

The Holy Spirit testifies to the Character of the Father and the son. We do need to do this -> For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

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timothyu said:

In other words we follow the Will of God, not mankind or elohim.

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Neogaia777 said:

When you find knowledge/logic that contradicts, then you should evaluate all positions/interpretations to see if you have something wrong. Because I'll tell you right now that we have when it comes down to this whole free will or not thing. Some don't want to have to dig or have their positions challenged to find the correct interpretation though. I feel very, very sorry for you if you are like that, because that can never lead to truth ever, or the truth that sets you free ever, etc.

God Bless.

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Always in His Presence said:

anything on the topic of the thread?

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Neogaia777 said:

I've said it already. Other than that I'm done, and you guys can have it now.

God Bless.

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Neogaia777 said:

Ok, let me put it to you this way?

You have a choice that you are right now about to make, and it can be anything, so just pick one that you're about to make, ok. If it is already known which way you're going to choose it, and that has always, always been known 100%, then can you choose something else, or can it happen another way?

And I first want you to answer Yes or No to this question, etc?

Cause your answer should be "No", etc. And that there is no possible way anything can happen any other way if it is already known by any being anywhere 100%, etc.

And then, if it's not 100%, but is some other set of percentages, then how can any being claim to know them all for sure 100%, when they are no longer 100%, but is some other set of percentages of possible ways it can go or happen now, etc?

How can any being in existence know them all 100%, when they are not all 100%?

There cannot be free will if there is 100% full omniscience about every single thing, etc, nor multiple possibilities either, etc.

God Bless.

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Palmfever said:

I've been absolutely certain that I would do some things in my life. Then due to some interruptive event or additional information I changed course. My knowledge is sometimes insufficient, obstructions occur. We are free agents... But we are not God.
Either God allows for human choice or human life is a farce. As Christ said, 'You could not have done it if God hade not allowed it.'
God's 'longsuffering,' tolerance, and allowance of wrong choices does not mean we don't have choices. 'Knowledge' in this world changes. The certainty of science may be a stepping stone or a joke in 100 years.
In millions of years God will still know what happened and what will happen.
And, He allows humans to change their minds. Change their direction, He asks them to do so. Patiently, because He knows they know very little.

"God relents from doing harm. His longsuffering is seen in His gracious restraint of His wrath towards those who deserve it. Despite the rebellious condition of the world, He waited patiently for 120 years while Noah built the ark and gathered the animals. God's longsuffering does not overlook anything. Unlike man, God has the end in view. He has true insight, knows what is best, and is not swayed by human emotions."

AMP Bible 1 Cor 2:2

"for I made the decision to know nothing [that is, to forego philosophical or theological discussions regarding inconsequential things and opinions while] among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified [and the meaning of His redemptive, substitutionary death and His resurrection]."

Knowledge can be about Efficient food distribution to the hungry.
It can also be about what some 'Star' wore to a meaningless event last night.

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Michie said:

If God knows everything you’re going to do, can you still be free?

It’s one of the oldest questions in philosophy. For centuries, theologians and skeptics alike have wrestled with the tension between divine foreknowledge and human freedom. If God already knows every decision you will make, are your decisions real? Or is the future already written — unchangeable, mechanical, and determined?

For many, this leads to a fatalistic view of history: that every action, every thought, every choice is merely the outworking of a divine decree. Foreknowledge, they assume, demands determinism. But that only seems true if you start with a false assumption about time and an impoverished view of God.

The dilemma collapses when you stop imagining God as a cosmic spectator watching a chronological timeline unfold. Because the God of the Bible is not bound by time — time is bound by Him.

The problem lies not in foreknowledge itself, but in our insistence on mapping God’s knowledge onto human temporality. We picture God like a being ahead of us on the timeline, peeking around the corner to see what we’ll do. But God is not ahead of us in time — He is outside of time, or better put, time is inside of God. He is not watching history like a surveillance reel. Time is not His limit. It’s His creation.

Continued below.

If God is all-knowing, how can man have free will?

If God knows everything you re going to do, can you still be free

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