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US sinks 6 small Iranian boats as Trump warns regime could be ‘blown off the face of the Earth’

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It's not a lie. Iran has 60% or had 60% uranium.. They cannot get nukes..

You all sound like you'd support Communism, and the Soviet Union.. And that you're falling for some sort of propaganda, on X or something like that!
People on the internet who are saying these things are wrong.. just plain wrong!
Islam in Iran is a terrorist threat!
Pre Trump, Iran had less than 4% commercial grade.
Post Trump, Iran ramped up their enrichment and their ballistic missiles.
They are now working on a deal where they go back to the percentage agreement Trump tore up.
Along with the higher enrichment grades they had going to a third country, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
If or whenever they come to a agreement, what Iran is or isn't doing will have to require inspection, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
Trump however was suckered by Israel into thinking they can do a regime change and Iranians would step up and topple that regime.
In that delusion Trump gave arms to the Kurds thinking they would get them to those rebelling Iranians.
The Kurds just kept the weapons themselves.
Yes, Iran should not possess a nuke, but unfortunately we have gullible simpletons running the US.
And it's another log on the fire why we are losing our own country.
 
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I’m confident you can receive medical care in Democrat states.
Nope! No, Democrat 51-50 laws allow for people to go untreated, Much easier. I'm talking about Involuntary Care laws. They saved my life!
 
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Nope! No, Democrat 51-50 laws allow for people to go untreated, Much easier. I'm talking about Involuntary Care laws. They saved my life!
5150 laws require treatment of those detained.
 
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Don’t care.

I will not be taken to a second location against my will within the US never mind being trafficked to an Islamic theocracy thousands of miles away.
Then I suggest you never join the military.
 
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You said, "It's their [Iran's] religion. Their religion teaches them to kill infidels." That is not a tenet of Shia Twelver Islam, which is the religion of Iran's government and the official religion of Iran.

Then perhaps they should follow the religion of peace (Islam - right?), because they have been killing tens of thousands for decades at the direction of their Theocratic Leaders.
 
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Pre Trump, Iran had less than 4% commercial grade.
Post Trump, Iran ramped up their enrichment and their ballistic missiles.
They are now working on a deal where they go back to the percentage agreement Trump tore up.
Along with the higher enrichment grades they had going to a third country, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
If or whenever they come to a agreement, what Iran is or isn't doing will have to require inspection, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
Trump however was suckered by Israel into thinking they can do a regime change and Iranians would step up and topple that regime.
In that delusion Trump gave arms to the Kurds thinking they would get them to those rebelling Iranians.
The Kurds just kept the weapons themselves.
Yes, Iran should not possess a nuke, but unfortunately we have gullible simpletons running the US.
And it's another log on the fire why we are losing our own country.
Let's look at the facts: links included:

The argument that President Trump somehow made the Iran situation worse by withdrawing from Obama's deeply flawed JCPOA fundamentally misunderstands both the deal's fatal weaknesses and the strategic reality we face today.

The JCPOA Was Never Going to Stop Iran's Nuclear Ambitions​

Let's be clear about what Obama's deal actually did: it legitimized Iran's enrichment program and put the regime on a glide path to nuclear weapons capability once the sunset provisions expired. As the Washington Examiner notes, "Under the JCPOA, Iran was not only allowed to continue uranium enrichment, but it wasn't compelled to decommission any of its reactors." The deal also "didn't put any limits on the Iranian ballistic missile program, not even on intercontinental ballistic missiles that could carry nuclear warheads." washingtonexaminer.com

The notion that Iran was behaving before Trump withdrew is fantasy. Iran was already violating the spirit of the agreement, developing ballistic missiles, funding Hezbollah and Hamas, and maintaining its nuclear weapons expertise for the day those restrictions lifted.

The Military Campaign Changed Everything​

The comparison between Obama's JCPOA and any deal emerging from current negotiations ignores a critical fact: Iran's nuclear infrastructure has been devastated by military action. As nonproliferation expert Andrea Stricker explained, "The JCPOA allowed Iran to start deploying advanced centrifuges by 2024. By January 2031, Iran would have had a near-zero breakout time. Now, that program is effectively decimated." thefp.com

David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security confirmed that "This war has hit eight sites involved in weaponization," meaning even if Iran could enrich uranium, they'd struggle to actually build a weapon. ruthfullyyours.com

The Fundamental Difference​

Under Obama's deal, Iran kept its facilities and was simply asked to limit their use temporarily—with the international community providing sanctions relief and legitimacy. Under Trump's approach, those facilities were destroyed, and any new deal starts from a position where Iran must rebuild from near-zero rather than simply waiting out a clock.

As Michael Doran at the Hudson Institute points out, the JCPOA "would preserve Iran's latent nuclear weapons capabilities—centrifuges, scientific expertise, and unmonitored sites—that will facilitate a simple reconstitution in the future." thefp.com That infrastructure no longer exists.

On the "Inspection" Argument​

Yes, inspections matter—but the JCPOA's inspection regime was never adequate. It didn't include "anytime-anywhere" inspections, and Iran routinely obstructed access to military sites. Any future verification regime will be negotiated with Iran in a fundamentally weaker position than they occupied in 2015. washingtonexaminer.com

The Real Question
The claim that Iran only ramped up enrichment because Trump withdrew ignores that Iran was always going to do exactly this the moment it suited them. The regime has never abandoned its nuclear ambitions—the JCPOA merely asked them to be patient.

Trump's critics want to pretend that if we'd simply stayed in a flawed deal, Iran would have remained a responsible actor. The regime's own behavior—funding terrorism, developing missiles, attacking U.S. allies—demonstrates otherwise.

The choice was never between "perfect peace" and "war." It was between confronting Iran's nuclear program now, from a position of military strength, or confronting a nuclear-armed Iran later. Trump chose the former.


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Nobel Peace Prize, here we come!

Is the ceasefire on or off?

U.S. Bombs Iranian Coastal City, Reports Fox’s Griffin

Griffin’s Fox colleague, Trey Yingst, later added that the U.S. strikes appeared to be in response to Iranian attacks on U.S. vessels in the region.

Griffin added more details to her initial post, writing, “A senior US official tells me that it was a US military strike on Iran’s Qeshm port and Bandar Abbas moments ago but added this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire.”
 
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Tehran is probably like Moscow.. Only not as nice.

But, have you heard of Nazran, Russia? Many kidnappings take place.. Beautiful castles, but still not a safe place.

Tehran doesn't feel like Moscow at all. Moscow is something of a schitzophrenic - the architecture is a mixed of Imperial Russian, Soviet brutalism and cargo-cult modernism. Tehran feels much more its own deal, more uniform in personality.

I don't think I've ever felt less personally welcome/treated with more suspicion than when I was in Moscow. Last time I visited was 2017.
Based off of this information, You'd choose to "visit" Iran, over Saudi Arabia.. But, if you were born there are you gonna go to a Western ally, or a Middle Eastern one?

No. Based on my experience of both I'd choose to live in Iran. Both are repressive theocracies, and while my quality of life would be better in Saudi Arabia, I couldn't live with myself for participating in what is in essence a country built on indentured servitude - a modern slave state.

In my younger days I rejected two job offers to work in counties bordering Saudi Arabia, because they use similar systems.

I also liked the Iranian people and their attitudes much more than those of the Saudis.

Obviously neither is a good option.. So, Why are y'all defending them?!

Because Ive been there and met and talked to the people. I understand their history (at least on a superficial level) and have some insight into why the US and Israel are so disliked in the country.

I don't agree with all of it. I'd love to see the present regime replaced with a secular democracy. I think their official positions around Israel are cartoonishly bad, although not always wrong.

If you mean to say there are poor, and rich parts of Saudi Arabia welcome to freedom!

No, that's not what I meant. Saudi Arabia has consciously created a migrant underclass, importing a workforce it can abuse and dispose of to prop itself up. The kafala system denied millions of workers basic rights and opened them up to economic exploitation, real abuse and have them no legal avenues to redress injustices.

I'd rather live in Iran than a Western ally built on such a system. Both countries are insane but at least the Iranians are doing the work themselves.
 
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Atheists have used Islamic terror to suggest that the Muslim religion is the same as the Christian religion. They're not. Muslims and Christians are not the same.
Islam is about 1500 years old…what was Christianity doing around the 16th century?

 
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Pre Trump, Iran had less than 4% commercial grade.
Post Trump, Iran ramped up their enrichment and their ballistic missiles.
They are now working on a deal where they go back to the percentage agreement Trump tore up.
Along with the higher enrichment grades they had going to a third country, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
If or whenever they come to a agreement, what Iran is or isn't doing will have to require inspection, also in the agreement Trump tore up.
Trump however was suckered by Israel into thinking they can do a regime change and Iranians would step up and topple that regime.
In that delusion Trump gave arms to the Kurds thinking they would get them to those rebelling Iranians.
The Kurds just kept the weapons themselves.
Yes, Iran should not possess a nuke, but unfortunately we have gullible simpletons running the US.
And it's another long in the fire why we are losing our own country.
Radical Jihadist extremism is terrorism. I defer to @alwaysinhispresence. There is no agreement that can ever be made with a terrorist.

Trump is just psycho enough to be able to handle them! And he's really not that bad..
This sounds like it's about Trump..
It sounds like you hate Trump!
 
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Tehran doesn't feel like Moscow at all. Moscow is something of a schitzophrenic - the architecture is a mixed of Imperial Russian, Soviet brutalism and cargo-cult modernism. Tehran feels much more its own deal, more uniform in personality.

I don't think I've ever felt less personally welcome/treated with more suspicion than when I was in Moscow. Last time I visited was 2017.


No. Based on my experience of both I'd choose to live in Iran. Both are repressive theocracies, and while my quality of life would be better in Saudi Arabia, I couldn't live with myself for participating in what is in essence a country built on indentured servitude - a modern slave state.

In my younger days I rejected two job offers to work in counties bordering Saudi Arabia, because they use similar systems.

I also liked the Iranian people and their attitudes much more than those of the Saudis.



Because Ive been there and met and talked to the people. I understand their history (at least on a superficial level) and have some insight into why the US and Israel are so disliked in the country.

I don't agree with all of it. I'd love to see the present regime replaced with a secular democracy. I think their official positions around Israel are cartoonishly bad, although not always wrong.



No, that's not what I meant. Saudi Arabia has consciously created a migrant underclass, importing a workforce it can abuse and dispose of to prop itself up. The kafala system denied millions of workers basic rights and opened them up to economic exploitation, real abuse and have them no legal avenues to redress injustices.

I'd rather live in Iran than a Western ally built on such a system. Both countries are insane but at least the Iranians are doing the work themselves.
Suit yourself, but I would go to Russia first and they are arresting Americans recently!
Russia is also sending money to Iran!
Russia, China nor Iran are America's ally!

Just, at least Russians look better doing it..
Was that Schizophrenic supposed to be an insult? Schizophrenia is a serious illness.. it's not to be made a mockery of. With the right treatment, people can sometimes do well, Or as well as they can.
It's worse than bipolar, or did you miss the part about me living with a mental illness..

You're lucky I'm on a Christian message board, because I have some words in Russian language I'd like to say to you.. I won't even post them here, despite this website having nothing to do with Russia.
Except there is an Orthodox religion forum here..
Dasvidaniya, which is only one word of what I wanted to say..
 
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Guys.. Which part of, "Iran cannot have nukes," Doesn't make sense?
Iran was about as close to having nuclear weapons as I am to getting a huge signing bonus with the 49ers.
 
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Iran was about as close to having nuclear weapons as I am to getting a huge signing bonus with the 49ers.
If you believe that, and you are more afraid of the Saudi Arabian people, than the Iranian government
then i urge you to join the Iranian people, and start making friends there, or something..

I defer to @alwaysinhispresence post concerning the subject.
Wait a second, are you close to getting signed by the 49ers? My bad, I don't know you, I was making assumptions..
 
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5150 laws require treatment of those detained.
5150 laws have loopholes, things that make it harder to enforce It's already difficult enough in conservative states It's even harder in California which is the specific one I was referring to..
 
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Suit yourself, but I would go to Russia first and they are arresting Americans recently!

Im not American.

Russia is also sending money to Iran!
Russia, China nor Iran are America's ally!

So what?

Geopolitics is important, but the fact that a country is or isn't a US ally has little bearing on whether I'd choose to live there.

Just, at least Russians look better doing it..
Was that Schizophrenic supposed to be an insult? Schizophrenia is a serious illness.. it's not to be made a mockery of. With the right treatment, people can sometimes do well, Or as well as they can.
It's worse than bipolar, or did you miss the part about me living with a mental illness..

It's a description of the city's architecture. Moscow has these conflicting architectural styles rubbing up against each other - imperial era from the 18th to 19 th century, Soviet concrete and mass habitation brutalism of the 1930s through 1980s and then the dreary modernist designs of the 1990s cribbed from the worst of Western disposable minimalism.

It's very much like a person with multiple conflicting personalities.

You're lucky I'm on a Christian message board, because I have some words in Russian language I'd like to say to you.. I won't even post them here, despite this website having nothing to do with Russia.
Except there is an Orthodox religion forum here..
Dasvidaniya, which is only one word of what I wanted to say..

Very Christian of you.
 
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Let's look at the facts: links included:

The argument that President Trump somehow made the Iran situation worse by withdrawing from Obama's deeply flawed JCPOA fundamentally misunderstands both the deal's fatal weaknesses and the strategic reality we face today.

The JCPOA Was Never Going to Stop Iran's Nuclear Ambitions​

Let's be clear about what Obama's deal actually did: it legitimized Iran's enrichment program and put the regime on a glide path to nuclear weapons capability once the sunset provisions expired. As the Washington Examiner notes, "Under the JCPOA, Iran was not only allowed to continue uranium enrichment, but it wasn't compelled to decommission any of its reactors." The deal also "didn't put any limits on the Iranian ballistic missile program, not even on intercontinental ballistic missiles that could carry nuclear warheads." washingtonexaminer.com

The notion that Iran was behaving before Trump withdrew is fantasy. Iran was already violating the spirit of the agreement, developing ballistic missiles, funding Hezbollah and Hamas, and maintaining its nuclear weapons expertise for the day those restrictions lifted.

The Military Campaign Changed Everything​

The comparison between Obama's JCPOA and any deal emerging from current negotiations ignores a critical fact: Iran's nuclear infrastructure has been devastated by military action. As nonproliferation expert Andrea Stricker explained, "The JCPOA allowed Iran to start deploying advanced centrifuges by 2024. By January 2031, Iran would have had a near-zero breakout time. Now, that program is effectively decimated." thefp.com

David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security confirmed that "This war has hit eight sites involved in weaponization," meaning even if Iran could enrich uranium, they'd struggle to actually build a weapon. ruthfullyyours.com

The Fundamental Difference​

Under Obama's deal, Iran kept its facilities and was simply asked to limit their use temporarily—with the international community providing sanctions relief and legitimacy. Under Trump's approach, those facilities were destroyed, and any new deal starts from a position where Iran must rebuild from near-zero rather than simply waiting out a clock.

As Michael Doran at the Hudson Institute points out, the JCPOA "would preserve Iran's latent nuclear weapons capabilities—centrifuges, scientific expertise, and unmonitored sites—that will facilitate a simple reconstitution in the future." thefp.com That infrastructure no longer exists.

On the "Inspection" Argument​

Yes, inspections matter—but the JCPOA's inspection regime was never adequate. It didn't include "anytime-anywhere" inspections, and Iran routinely obstructed access to military sites. Any future verification regime will be negotiated with Iran in a fundamentally weaker position than they occupied in 2015. washingtonexaminer.com

The Real Question
The claim that Iran only ramped up enrichment because Trump withdrew ignores that Iran was always going to do exactly this the moment it suited them. The regime has never abandoned its nuclear ambitions—the JCPOA merely asked them to be patient.

Trump's critics want to pretend that if we'd simply stayed in a flawed deal, Iran would have remained a responsible actor. The regime's own behavior—funding terrorism, developing missiles, attacking U.S. allies—demonstrates otherwise.

The choice was never between "perfect peace" and "war." It was between confronting Iran's nuclear program now, from a position of military strength, or confronting a nuclear-armed Iran later. Trump chose the former.


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