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How should we interpret the Genesis week?

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It is what God told humans thousands of years ago about what He actually did.

He told them the parts that they could fully understand
7 day week
Creation from nothing , by the word of God
Infinite , all knowing powerful Creator with unlimited ability.

And that how the earth, sun and moon came about with all life on Earth included.
Genesis 1-2.4a is never presented as what “God told humans”, though. It is not even the only OT, or only Biblical, passage about the creation. It is the fullest biblical reference to the creation, but not the only one.
 
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"For you created my innermost being." There's no way to reword this verse to have it happening in the first six days of creation.

Because God did this creation inside his mother's body. Which was not present in the first six days.
No amount of rewording will change the facts; His own word refutes your claim.
 
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"For you created my innermost being." There's no way to reword this verse to have it happening in the first six days of creation.


Because God did this creation inside his mother's body. Which was not present in the first six days.
No amount of rewording will change the facts; His own word refutes your claim.
Let's read it again:

Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

Creation takes much much shorter time than Knitting. Parts a and b of the verse are NOT time-related. God does not create us in the womb. He let the body assemble around an existed "being" in the womb. Adam has a created whole person. We only have created spirit.
The point of argument is WHEN our spirit was created. This is not addressed in that verse.
 
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Creation takes much much shorter time than Knitting. Parts a and b of the verse are NOT time-related.
Let's read it again:
Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

God does not create us in the womb.
He says otherwise.

The Bible teaches us that life is precious from the very beginning. One of the most beautiful things about this is how God creates each person while they are still in their mother’s womb. These verses remind us that we are not just accidents; we are carefully made by a loving Creator. This truth gives us hope and helps us understand the value of every single life.

Psalm 22:10 From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

I believe Him. There's no way to parse one's way out of that. Just set pride aside and accept it His way.
 
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Let's read it again:
Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.


He says otherwise.

The Bible teaches us that life is precious from the very beginning. One of the most beautiful things about this is how God creates each person while they are still in their mother’s womb. These verses remind us that we are not just accidents; we are carefully made by a loving Creator. This truth gives us hope and helps us understand the value of every single life.

Psalm 22:10 From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.

I believe Him. There's no way to parse one's way out of that. Just set pride aside and accept it His way.
You avoid the issue of concern in this discussion: WHEN does God create you and me?
Until you address it again clearly, this talk ends.
 
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Out of courtesy, I'll give you a brief response.

I choose not to debate evolution/creationism with strong evolutionists for three reasons:

First, it's a time consuming, never ending endeavor that, in my experience at least, never proves productive for either side. Second, I've learned that no presentation of evidence seems to change the other party's world view interpretation of evidence. And third, I get tired of being insulted and a rudely attacked by antagonistic evolutionists.

I'll save my apologetic influencing attempts for less biased individuals seeking truth rather than those already grounded in opposing world view theologies.
Well God created the universe in 6 days, 6000 years ago. So you have truth on your side
 
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Genesis is an ancient text, written by and to the ancient Israelites, it is not a book of modern 21st century physics or Big Bang cosmology related science:
So you don’t think Moses talked to God?
 
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There has never been a conflict between science and the bible, they are just two different ways God expresses Himself. Both are dependable, trustworthy and true.
Pretty funny considering science doesn’t make a claim that it’s dependable, trustworthy, or true. Science simply claims that this is the best information we have at this moment in time.
 
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So you don’t think Moses talked to God?
Moses spoke to God. However, nothing in the Bible suggests that God gave Moses advanced or futuristic scientific knowledge. Nor any of the other old testament prophets or their ancient Isrealite audiences.
 
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Pretty funny considering science doesn’t make a claim that it’s dependable, trustworthy, or true.
It doesn't have to make claims to ultimate truth. Science is inductive, inferring the rules from watching the game. It doesn't deal in proof. This might seem shaky to you, but nothing humans can do, works better for understanding the physical universe. It works.

And for getting along in this world, that matters. So, it's dependable and trustworthy, not perfect. And that's why we use it.
 
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Moses spoke to God. However, nothing in the Bible suggests that God gave Moses advanced or futuristic scientific knowledge. Nor any of the other old testament prophets or their ancient Isrealite audiences.
But you agree Moses spoke to God
 
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Can you name something?
In quantum physics, the separation of light and darkness represents the delicate manipulation of photons. It is used to achieve quantum state control, generate light from a vacuum, and explain wave-particle duality. This boundary manipulation is fundamental to both advancing theoretical frameworks and building future quantum technologies

The concept that light is a "separation" from darkness began as a theological and philosophical idea before evolving into a scientific framework.

The specific terminology of "separation" primarily originates from the Book of Genesis in the Bible, where light is created and then divided from darkness.
 
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In quantum physics, the separation of light and darkness represents the delicate manipulation of photons. It is used to achieve quantum state control, generate light from a vacuum, and explain wave-particle duality. This boundary manipulation is fundamental to both advancing theoretical frameworks and building future quantum technologies

The concept that light is a "separation" from darkness began as a theological and philosophical idea before evolving into a scientific framework.

The specific terminology of "separation" primarily originates from the Book of Genesis in the Bible, where light is created and then divided from darkness.
The Bible of course doesn't say anything about quantum physics, photons, or wave-particle duality. There is no evidence in the text that such ideas were intended to be described.

You make it sound like Moses and the Isrealites had blue-prints of large hadron colliders and that these topics were part of their cognitive environment.
 
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You make it sound like Moses and the Isrealites had blue-prints of large hadron colliders and that these topics were part of their cognitive environment.
Sounds pretty weak. If distinguishing light and darkness is a scientific concept, single-celled organisms are doing science.
 
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