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Nobody. You asked who should advise the President when making such a decision.
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Exclusive: The White House is looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary
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Too bad those are all a bag of incompetents and failures themselves.
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To advise the president as regards going to war? Because that's what's being talked about. And you asked 'who else besides the Secretary of War would advise the President on military action?'
You've been told.
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Did the opposition party come out with the bumper sticker yet? I have to admit, they have some great sound bites that they seem to believe if they get repeated enough times - they will become fact
Are we loosing?
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Oh and Pete is still in office - how many years does he have to be in office until people can admit the OP was in error?
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Well from what I know ..(wait what do I know? Haha) this claim this claim is disputed 
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either that or another measure
1) three level of leadership are dead
2) Their Navy is at the bottom of the sea
3) Their air force is gone
4) the Uranium is under the ruble
5) The Strait of Hormuz is being cleared of mines
6) The only active weaponry left in the straight are rocket launchers (almost completely gone) and go fast boats. Remember what happened in the Caribbean - that's happening now.
7) Iran is completely blockaded and loosing hundreds of millions of dollars a day
8) Iran economy is tanking
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But wait...I thought you'd previously destroyed their nuclear capability. But Hegseth said in the Congressional hearing that the US needed to continue it's operations to prevent Iran getting nukes. So which is it? Did he lie when he said you'd detroyed it or is he lying now?
And Iran is losing millions each day? How's the price of gas in your neighbourhood? Over 4 bucks yet? I won't bother going through the price of gas in other countries because you are only interested in yourself. Well, buckle in my friend. Trump is now saying that Hormuz could be blocked for months. Be sure to keep us posted on your food and gas bills. Maybe you could tell us how much increase you're prepared to accept and for how long.
And the Iranian economy is tanking? Hey, you need to read some world news. Take your head out of the insular right-wing slop that passes for journalism in the US and check out what's happening elsewhere. We're all on the edge of a world recession because of Trump. And trust me, that will hit you hard. And I mean you personally. Luckily for the rest of us our governments have realised that you're not interested in global cooperation any more - just the opposite in fact. So we'll be helping each other out and you guys can take a hike.
Can't wait for the half terms. But I'll bet some people are losing sleep worrying about them. If that's the case then try a glass of warm milk before you retire. It might help. But then again, if prices keep rising you might want to cut back a little.
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The situation is more complex than either posting indicates, and I think is less predictable.
The basic situation is that Iran's economy is in bad shape now. However When supplies around the world are drained, the whole world will be as well. Demand for oil is inelastic. The only way to absorb a 15 - 20% decrease in oil supply is for large enough price increases to force a recession. On the surface it looks like a matter of who can accept the most damage.
However there are complicating factors. Many are confident they can predict these. I'm not so confident. I'm not making predictions on any of these:
* Will Iran's government buckle?
* Can the US clear the Strait, and preven Iran from attacking ships from anywhere along its coast?
* Will Iran get tired of the standoff, and destroy the Gulf States oil infrastructure?
* If they try, will Ukrainian defenses actually succeed in stopping their missles. (Ukraine's skill in doing this and their involvement in the Gulf states isn't widely reported, as far as I can see.)
* Will the US get tired of the standoff, and attack Iran? If so, the previous two items apply
* Will China, Japan, etc, get tired of the standoff, and start running convoys with miliary escort?
* Perhaps Iran will find a way to make an offer that Trump will accept.
The worst case is a war between Russia, China, Japan and us. The next worst case, which is more likely, is that we try to get rid of Iran's missles, and they fire them all at once, doing maximum possible damage to the Gulf States.
The best case is negotiated settlement. The next best is that we clear the mines and get rid of Iran's missles. Note that this doesn't necessarily deal with Iran's ability to enrich uranium. But if we can open the Strait, it removes time pressure and makes it much more likely we can either destroy enough of Iran's nuclear capability to claim victory, or negotiate something.
Both of these alternatives seem plausible, but my current bet is that we attack Iran, and they do significant damage to the Gulf states and/or Israel, causing a prolonged, deep global recession.
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First, thank you for such a well thought out and stated reply -
What if no one had to absorb a 15-20% decrease?
United Arab Emirates will leave OPEC in a blow to the oil cartel
The UAE’s decision had been rumored as a possibility for some time, as it pushed back in recent years against OPEC production quotas it felt had been too low — meaning it wasn’t able to sell as much oil to the world as it had wanted.
“Having invested heavily in expanding energy production capacity in recent years, the bigger picture is that the UAE has been itching to pump more oil,” Capital Economics wrote in an analysis.
Another part of the equation is the UAE increasing it's production and filling in the gap - no world wide recession and they make the money they have wanted to for several decades.
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