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Here my brother is the thread to discuss Daniel 7 more freely, and here is your post...
Yes, but thats not what Gods Word in Daniel and Revelation, and this is a teaching
Hi reddogs

Great to see your interest in Daniel 7, which is an interest of mine as well. However my understanding is that unlike Daniel 2, in Daniel 7 the four beasts, or kingdoms exist simultaneously. See the following verses:

Daniel said: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea....
..."Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)

Daniel 7:2-3,11-12 (NIV)

verse 13 then describes the Return of Christ, so it is clear these four beasts are end-times superpowers (corresponding to the four winds: North, South, East and West) that will be in place when Jesus returns. In addition, if you doubt this, Revelation 13 very clearly refers to Daniel 7, as the beast described in Revelation 13 has the attributes of all four of the beasts in Daniel 7 combined. My website Bible Daniel 7 Website has more details on this, including an interpretation of the four beasts, and an explanation of how John and Daniel are describing the same thing.

We can discuss it further in this thread s...
 

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Here is basics of the prophecy as Gods Word has shown to Christians...

"In Daniel 7 the prophet records a night vision that God gave him concerning four world empires, symbolized as four beasts (Daniel 7:1–14). The four empires are the same as Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream in Daniel 2, although in that dream they are pictured as various metals in a statue. Daniel’s vision assures us that the world’s empires have a certain amount of authority for a certain length of time, but they will all pass away, and “the holy people of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever” (Daniel 7:18).

The vision of the four beasts troubles Daniel, and he wonders what it means until an angel explains it to him (Daniel 7:15–27). Even then, the vision and its interpretation continue to cause Daniel distress: “I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself” (verse 28).

Daniel’s vision of the four beasts begins with a windy night and a troubled sea: “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea” (Daniel 7:2). As Daniel watches, “four great beasts,” each different from the others, emerge from the dark waters (verse 3).

The first of Daniel’s four beasts is “like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle” (Daniel 7:4). As Daniel watches, the wings are torn off the beast, and the creature stands erect like a man and a human mind is given to it. Later, the angel who interprets the dream tells Daniel, “The four great beasts are four kings that will rise from the earth” (verse 17). This first beast is representative of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. Its rise to human-like status reflects Nebuchadnezzar’s deliverance from a beastly existence and his insight into the true nature of God (Daniel 4:34–35).

The second beast in Daniel’s vision is “like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth” (Daniel 7:5). A voice tells the second beast to devour flesh until it is satisfied. This beast represents the Medo-Persian Empire; the raising up of one side of the creature indicates that one of the kingdom’s parts (Persia) would be dominant. The three ribs in the creature’s mouth symbolize nations that were “devoured” by the Medes and the Persians. These three conquered nations are known to be Babylon, Lydia, and Egypt.

The third of the four beasts is “like a leopard,” except it has four bird-like wings on its back and four heads (Daniel 7:6). This beast is given authority to rule. The third beast represents Greece, an empire known for the swiftness of its conquests. The four heads are predictive of the four-way division of the empire following Alexander the Great’s death. Daniel’s vision of the ram and the goat gives further details of the second and third kingdoms (see Daniel 8).

The final beast that Daniel sees rising from the sea is the most dreadful—“terrifying and frightening and very powerful” (Daniel 7:7). This fourth beast has “bronze claws” (verse 19) and “large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left” totally annihilating its prey (verse 7). The fourth beast has ten horns. This creature represents the Roman Empire, a mighty kingdom that indeed crushed all its foes."
 
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Here my brother is the thread to discuss Daniel 7 more freely, and here is your post...
Yes, but thats not what Gods Word in Daniel and Revelation, and this is a teaching


We can discuss it further in this thread s...

Hi reddogs

I do apologize, I didn’t realise I had strayed out of the Eschatology forum I usually visit! I will go back there and try not to accidentally stray out of it again. I just looked up Adventists (having not had any contact with you before), and I think our beliefs are in close alignment, I look forward to when we can meet up in Jesus Kingdom!
 
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