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Trump Posts Jesus-Like Picture of Himself Performing Miracle on Sick Man, Minutes After Ramping Up Feud With Pope Leo

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“I have no fear of the Trump administration, or speaking out loudly of the message of the Gospel, which is what I believe I am here to do.” Asked directly about Mr. Trump’s comments on Truth Social, Leo said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”


...in response to Trump's direct attack on the pope:

The only people that fear Trump are those that tied themselves to his coattails.
 
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It's what he does in response to attacks aginst him from those who already despise him.
Just like a typical crybaby does.
 
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I hope this opens the eyes of Christians who support Trump, and they see Trump for who he is
Nah, they weren't offended when a golden statue of Trump was unveiled at a PAC convention.

But as I've said in another thread, nothing Trump does will matter because he is doing the one thing MAGA believes is their existential interest: Fighting the culture war on their side to preserve traditional Anglo-American culture.

This is existential for them. They cannot help but continue to support Trump, no matter what else he does that is offensive or fails.
 
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This fits the pattern of the cardboard Christianity on display throughout this administration. Karoline Leavitt comes out and crows, "Could you hear our amen in there? We just had a little loud prayer as a team", flippantly ignoring Jesus' admonition in Matthew 6:6 against performative piety. Mike Johnson pontificates on Romans 13, but condemns "activist judges" even though by Johnson's own reckoning those judges have been established as the governing authorities on the constitutionality of legislation. Not to mention Trump's own dismissal of Matthew 5:44 by hating his opponents (prompting the aforementioned Leavitt to praise Trump as "authentically himself").

John the Baptist would have gone ballistic on this bunch.
 
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I think that the heavy use of AI fits perfectly with the Trump administration. It's both lazy and lifeless, as well as overly detailed and pompous, with no real value and yet with a huge industry behind it that makes things worse for everyone except a select few.
 
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I think it's probably more a mockery of the attacks against him. How many times has he been called a messiah by those who despise him? Probably innumerable times. Note that's not justifying his actions, it's just a speculation of what promps his actions along those lines.

Responses like this are why I come to this forum less and less. At least in secular forums that support the president, they don’t pretend to be Christian. Their support for the president is purely political and ideological—I can accept that. But when so-called Christians find justification for defending this kind of behavior, they are only demonstrating what kind of faith they have. Finding excuses for this kind of behavior from the president only shows what kind of Christian they are. They would stomp on Christ without a thought if they believed it would help the president.
 
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Responses like this are why I come to this forum less and less. At least in secular forums that support the president, they don’t pretend to be Christian. Their support for the president is purely political and ideological—I can accept that. But when so-called Christians find justification for defending this kind of behavior, they are only demonstrating what kind of faith they have. Finding excuses for this kind of behavior from the president only shows what kind of Christian they are. They would stomp on Christ without a thought if they believed it would help the president.
So even though I make it clear I'm evaluating his actions, like a clinical impersonal evaluation, you still jump to the conclusion that I'm justifying, or defending him, or making excuses, when I'm not taking that position. Maybe if you count to ten and evaluate what's being said more clearly, you'll end up less exasperated in the future. BTW not being anti-Trump doesn't mean being un-christian. Is that what the radical liberalism is gaslighting now? That if you're not onboard with that ideology, you're not really a Christian? Seems that way.
 
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I hope this opens the eyes of Christians who support Trump, and they see Trump for who he is
It seems to be the consequence of the alliance he made with Franklin Graham and his associates mega-church evangelical church-entertainment before he ran the first time. I get why he was captured by the showmen of the evangelical megachurches rather than more regular religion as he is more of a showman than a business man himself. They speak to his personality. (Not to mention the church his parents took him to as a child is a critical point in the development of feel-good Christianity and the prosperity gospel.)
 
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I think it's probably more a mockery of the attacks against him. How many times has he been called a messiah by those who despise him? Probably innumerable times. Note that's not justifying his actions, it's just a speculation of what promps his actions along those lines.
An interesting thought, but I think it misses a couple of salient points.

1. Trump did this type of behavior way before anyone attacked him.

2. It makes it sound like this is measured reasonig when Trump is more of a "lashing out" kind of guy.

3. Trump really does seem to see himself in messianic terms as do some in the evangelical community.

Not being a Christian I have no dog in this fight but I do find it interesting how so many are willing to give this type of behavior a pass. It lends credence to the idea that some Christians have exchanged religious faith for political power.
 
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So even though I make it clear I'm evaluating his actions, like a clinical impersonal evaluation, you still jump to the conclusion that I'm justifying, or defending him, or making excuses, when I'm not taking that position. Maybe if you count to ten and evaluate what's being said more clearly, you'll end up less exasperated in the future. BTW not being anti-Trump doesn't mean being un-christian. Is that what the radical liberalism is gaslighting now? That if you're not onboard with that ideology, you're not really a Christian? Seems that way.

From a Christian perspective, the appropriate reaction to this type of behavior is to express disapproval.
It seems that you were unable to take such action to show your true character.

If someone chooses not to criticize the actions of a person who mocks Jesus Christ, and instead attempts to justif or give explanation y why that individual did so, then they are not genuinely Christian but only claiming to be one.
 
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I think it's probably more a mockery of the attacks against him. How many times has he been called a messiah by those who despise him?
How many times have he been called messiah by those who despise him? Why would someone that despises him call him messiah, at all (it doesn't make sense that they would call him messiah in earnest)?
Probably innumerable times. Note that's not justifying his actions, it's just a speculation of what promps his actions along those lines.
What reason do we have to believe that this is what prompted his actions?
 
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I think it's probably more a mockery of the attacks against him. How many times has he been called a messiah by those who despise him? Probably innumerable times.
If that is the case, you will be able to provide countless examples of this. In the mean time Trump and /or his supporters have been producing stuff like this:
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What strawman?
The strawman that it are Trump's critics that depict him as Messiah, while there is a plethora of MAGAlithic artwork artefacts produced by his supporters that prortays him that way.
 
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It seems to be the consequence of the alliance he made with Franklin Graham and his associates mega-church evangelical church-entertainment before he ran the first time. I get why he was captured by the showmen of the evangelical megachurches rather than more regular religion as he is more of a showman than a business man himself. They speak to his personality. (Not to mention the church his parents took him to as a child is a critical point in the development of feel-good Christianity and the prosperity gospel.)
On Easter, Graham gave a message to support Trump and Israel by literally reversing how the Old Testament characterizes Persia (Iran in the modern day).

Graham characterized Persia as being Israel's enemy in the Old Testament, when the truth is exactly the opposite. Through four books--Esther, Danial, Ezra, and Nehemiah, Persia is the ally of the Jews. Persia is never their enemy.

Persian king Cyrus the Great is explicitly called God’s “shepherd” in Isaiah 44:28 and even “His anointed” in Isaiah 45:1. That is an extraordinary designation -- effectively placing a non-Israelite king in a role normally reserved for Israel’s own sacred leadership.

Anyone with even moderate Old Testament knowledge should know that.
 
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