The Many Moods of Hormuz

Trogdor the Burninator · Apr 5, 2026

Given US President Trump's many, many pronouncements regarding the Iran war and attempts to reopen the Straits of Hormuz, I thought that it would be a good idea to collect his various statements in one place to better affect discussion.
[Update] - I'll keep a running tally on the list below.

The original section I found on Reddit. To which we can update Trumps latest, apparently unhinged threat on Truth social

Apr 5: "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the <swearwords removed> Strait, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

The running tally
Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz"
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We are giving them more time."
Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end."
Mar 25: "We are still negotiating."
Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time."
Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well"
Mar 28: "War will be over soon"
Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont"
Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells"
Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK."
Apr 5: "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. ............. Praise be to Allah."
Apr 6: "If There’s No Deal ‘We’re Blowing Up the Whole Country"
Apr 7: "A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again."
Apr 9: "There are reports that Iran is charging fees to tankers going through the Hormuz Strait — They better not be and, if they are, they better stop now!"
Apr 13: "Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz."

Desk trauma · Apr 5, 2026

Moved on from blowing up power plants and bridges to the whole country.

Nuclear war threat or market manipulation?

Tune in Tuesday to find out!

GoldenBoy89 · Apr 5, 2026

Remember when he said Covid would be over by Easter? At least he’s learned not give any hard deadlines ^_^

Trogdor the Burninator · Apr 5, 2026

Desk trauma said:
Moved on from blowing up power plants and bridges to the whole country.

Nuclear war threat or market manipulation?

Tune in Tuesday to find out!

Thanks! I'll add it to the list and keep a running tally of Trump's many moods of Hormuz

MarkSB · Apr 5, 2026

Desk trauma said:
Nuclear war threat or market manipulation?

'Tis always the question, whether or not he's just trying to manipulate the market.

I'm guessing he backs down and extends the "deadline" again. For the sake of the Iranian civilians (and the reputation of the U.S.), I hope that's the case.

mark46 · Apr 5, 2026

There is one issue that could end the war. Trump could end all sanctions and recognize the right of Iran to exist. Itan would give up the nuclear material and the right to enrich uranium. And, yes, they would agree to allow free passage the straits in the Gulf and the Red Sea ("controlled") by the Houti.

Yes, if Itan rebuilt the missile and drone factories, then Israel and the US would attack again in a few years, but that really isn't a major issue.

Aryeh Jay · Apr 5, 2026

With Allah now on OUR side, we will surely win this Holy Jihad.

Trogdor the Burninator · Apr 5, 2026

Aryeh Jay said:
With Allah now on OUR side, we will surely win this Holy Jihad.

And I thought Obama was the Muslim. Trump really showed me huh?

Aryeh Jay · Apr 5, 2026

Trogdor the Burninator said:
And I thought Obama was the Muslim. Trump really showed me huh?

Yes he did. And Pepperidge Farms will remember.

Trogdor the Burninator · Apr 7, 2026

Trump becoming more unhinged day to day, now threatening war crimes and genocide.

US President Donald Trump's deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz will expire at 10am AEST.
Hours before that deadline, Mr Trump posted on social media that: "A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again."
He has threatened to strike civilian infrastructure, including power plants and bridges, if the Islamic Republic does not cooperate with his demands.

mark46 · Apr 7, 2026

Tacos for dinner at the White House.

2-week cease fire

wing2000 · Apr 7, 2026

Apr 8: Agree to a two week cease-fire premised on the following agreement (I wonder, was Trump aware of these points?)

Strait of Hormuz Control: Establishing a secure transit protocol with controlled passage in the Strait of Hormuz coordinated by Iran's armed forces.
U.S. Withdrawal: Withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region.
Sanctions & Assets: Lifting all primary and secondary U.S. and international sanctions, and releasing all blocked Iranian assets.
Reparations: Full compensation for war damages to Iran.
Regional Conflict: Ending the war against all components of the "Resistance Axis".
Nuclear Program: Recognition of Iran’s uranium enrichment program.

What we know about the US-Iran ceasefire deal

These are the key moments that lead up to a two-week ceasefire agreement between the US and Iran, and what is on the table to permanently end the fighting.

www.abc.net.au

SoldierOfTheKing · Apr 7, 2026

mark46 said:
Tacos for dinner at the White House.

2-week cease fire

Are you disappointed that the President didn’t escalate the bombing?

Nithavela · Apr 7, 2026

wing2000 said:
Apr 8: Agree to a two week cease-fire premised on the following agreement (I wonder, was Trump aware of these points?)

Strait of Hormuz Control: Establishing a secure transit protocol with controlled passage in the Strait of Hormuz coordinated by Iran's armed forces.

U.S. Withdrawal: Withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region.

Sanctions & Assets: Lifting all primary and secondary U.S. and international sanctions, and releasing all blocked Iranian assets.

Reparations: Full compensation for war damages to Iran.

Regional Conflict: Ending the war against all components of the "Resistance Axis".

Nuclear Program: Recognition of Iran’s uranium enrichment program.

What we know about the US-Iran ceasefire deal

These are the key moments that lead up to a two-week ceasefire agreement between the US and Iran, and what is on the table to permanently end the fighting.

www.abc.net.au

Nithavela · Apr 7, 2026

wing2000 said:
Apr 8: Agree to a two week cease-fire premised on the following agreement (I wonder, was Trump aware of these points?)

Strait of Hormuz Control: Establishing a secure transit protocol with controlled passage in the Strait of Hormuz coordinated by Iran's armed forces.

U.S. Withdrawal: Withdrawal of all U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region.

Sanctions & Assets: Lifting all primary and secondary U.S. and international sanctions, and releasing all blocked Iranian assets.

Reparations: Full compensation for war damages to Iran.

Regional Conflict: Ending the war against all components of the "Resistance Axis".

Nuclear Program: Recognition of Iran’s uranium enrichment program.

What we know about the US-Iran ceasefire deal

These are the key moments that lead up to a two-week ceasefire agreement between the US and Iran, and what is on the table to permanently end the fighting.

www.abc.net.au

This is hilarious. But I wouldn't put too much faith in those terms if I were Iran, Trump has a history of ripping up deals when they are no longer convenient. Time to replenish those drone stores.

wing2000 · Apr 7, 2026

Nithavela said:

Let the man child believe he won before he threatens to use his toys again.

Aryeh Jay · Apr 7, 2026

mark46 said:
Tacos for dinner at the White House.

2-week cease fire

Desk trauma · Apr 7, 2026

Nithavela said:
This is hilarious. But I wouldn't put too much faith in those terms if I were Iran, Trump has a history of ripping up deals when they are no longer convenient. Time to replenish those drone stores.

There is also the history of negotiations in bad faith while an attack is being prepared.

Gene2memE · Apr 7, 2026

Iran is portraying this as a victory. The US is portraying this as a victory.

Personally, I'd say in an operational sense it's a victory for the US/Israel.

Iran has been largely de-fanged militarily (for the time being) and it's going to have a busy 1/2 decade picking up the pieces and managing a population that is highly dissatisfied.

However, in the strategic sense, this feels like a victory for Iran.

Firstly, the regime is still in power and the militants/IRGC faction probably comes out on top.

Iran still retains some ability to project power/disrupt things for its neighbours and it's regional proxies are still largely in place. What's more, Iran now knows that it can effectively close the Strait of Hormuz and damage/disrupt regional petrochemical extration and production if it so chooses. And it can do so while still retaining the support of China.

According to BBC reporting on Iranian state media, the US has condititionally agreed to Iran's '10 point plan' for a ceasefire:

Complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen
Complete and permanent cessation of the war on Iran with no time limit
Ending all conflicts in the region in their entirety
Reopening the Strait of Hormuz
Establishing a protocol and conditions to ensure freedom and security of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz
Full payment of compensation for reconstruction costs to Iran
Full commitment to lifting sanctions on Iran
Release of Iranian funds and frozen assets held by the United States
Iran fully commits to not seeking possession of any nuclear weapons
Immediate ceasefire takes effect on all fronts immediately upon approval of the above conditions

Iranian state media is also reporting the US has agreed to:

Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran
The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz
Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment
Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions
Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency
Payment of compensation to Iran
Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region
And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"

On the 10 points plan

1. Is a non-starter, becuase Israel is still engaged in Lebanon and no-one is unpunching the tar babies of Yemen and Iraq
3. Is also out of the question. See above
5. Will be a highly sticky point, depending on what the demands are around the protocol.
6. Is a non-starter, because neither the US or Israel is going to agree to that
7-9 are also unrealistic, unless Trump wants to ressurect the JCPOA

On the second set of conditions, most of those are completely unrealistic (the US isn't pulling troops out of the ME and it's not going to agree to Iranian control of the SoH or reparations). Some of them seem to be in direct contradiction to the 10 point plan (like the uranium enrichment one).

Nithavela · Apr 7, 2026

Gene2memE said:
Iran is portraying this as a victory. The US is portraying this as a victory.

Personally, I'd say in an operational sense it's a victory for the US/Israel.

Iran has been largely de-fanged militarily (for the time being) and it's going to have a busy 1/2 decade picking up the pieces and managing a population that is highly dissatisfied.

However, in the strategic sense, this feels like a victory for Iran.

Firstly, the regime is still in power and the militants/IRGC faction probably comes out on top.

Iran still retains some ability to project power/disrupt things for its neighbours and it's regional proxies are still largely in place. What's more, Iran now knows that it can effectively close the Strait of Hormuz and damage/disrupt regional petrochemical extration and production if it so chooses. And it can do so while still retaining the support of China.

According to BBC reporting on Iranian state media, the US has condititionally agreed to Iran's '10 point plan' for a ceasefire:

Complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen

Complete and permanent cessation of the war on Iran with no time limit

Ending all conflicts in the region in their entirety

Reopening the Strait of Hormuz

Establishing a protocol and conditions to ensure freedom and security of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz

Full payment of compensation for reconstruction costs to Iran

Full commitment to lifting sanctions on Iran

Release of Iranian funds and frozen assets held by the United States

Iran fully commits to not seeking possession of any nuclear weapons

Immediate ceasefire takes effect on all fronts immediately upon approval of the above conditions

Iranian state media is also reporting the US has agreed to:

Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran

The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz

Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment

Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions

Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency

Payment of compensation to Iran

Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region

And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"

On the 10 points plan

1. Is a non-starter, becuase Israel is still engaged in Lebanon and no-one is unpunching the tar babies of Yemen and Iraq
3. Is also out of the question. See above
5. Will be a highly sticky point, depending on what the demands are around the protocol.
6. Is a non-starter, because neither the US or Israel is going to agree to that
7-9 are also unrealistic, unless Trump wants to ressurect the JCPOA

On the second set of conditions, most of those are completely unrealistic (the US isn't pulling troops out of the ME and it's not going to agree to Iranian control of the SoH or reparations). Some of them seem to be in direct contradiction to the 10 point plan (like the uranium enrichment one).

I think it's doubtful how "defanged" Iran really is. They have been striking high value targets right up until this ceasefire, and their population got a taste of what waits on the other side of the fence their regime built around them, probably making life inside the fence a lot more palatable.

Of course Iran will present itself as more powerful that it is, just like the USA's claims of Iran's military being 99.9% destroyed is vastly overblown. But the USA also spent a lot of material on this conflict, both on interceptors and on munitions, as well as a large amount of aircraft.

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