Well lets look at it from your point of view, the law cannot be looked at in two parts, ie, moral and non moral law.
Please understand that there are preachers that exist in this world God placed us in, who "profess to know God" but Judge Him as dishonest, incompetent, unjust, not moral, etc., as if HIS Ways are not perfect. This has been true since the very first sermon was ever preached by the prince of this world in the garden with Eve. So just to be clear, there are "many", as Jesus warns, who exalt themselves as "Judges" of God's Word. Preaching that some of God's Word is "Moral" while judging some of God's Word as "not Moral". And this voice would entice us to join them in their Judgments against God, just as the preacher in Eve's time worked to convince her that God had lied to her. And as Peter teaches, "
many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of".
While this judgment of God is a very popular religious tradition in this world God placed me in, I have come to understand I am not qualified to Judge God, nor have I any desire to do so.
So to clarify your statement about "my point of view", it's not that I "cannot" judge God's Laws as "moral and not moral". It's that I choose to honor God, and diligently seek Him,
not Judge His Words.
So, the law of Moses is the entire law handed down at Sanai, and that is what Acts15:5 is referring to, the entire law.
I too, have head this philosophy by some person who has transformed himself into an Apostle of Christ. But according to the "Law and Prophets", the Levitical Priesthood Covenant God made with Levi, concerning a man killing a goat for his own sins, wasn't even ADDED until after the Golden calf. And Moses himself prophesied about a time when a new Prophet, "Like Him", a Priest of God, would come. A Priest, not "after the order of Aaron", but "after the order of Melchizedek". And that unto Him we shall hearken. And the Word of God Himself teaches us in His Oracles that were written
Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, "to obey" is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. So clearly God Himself placed a division in His Law. The Law that defined Sin, and the "added" Law that provided for forgiveness of Sins.
So it is evident, and prophesied that a New Priesthood Covenant should come, a Covenant in which God Himself provides for the forgiveness of sins, and that the sacrificial "works of the Law" given by God in His Mercy after the Golden calf, was only temporary in it's conception, and was only "ADDED" till the True Lamb of God, that even Abraham knew Should come.
Gen. 22:
8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
The leaders of the first century church, including Peter, Paul and James then debated which of those 613 laws gentiles be asked to follow, only four were given.
This is another popular but insidious falsehood that is promoted by the prince of this world, I would caution men against furthering this falsehood. In the entire history of the Bible, there is not ONE Person, man or woman EVER, that God placed 613 Laws on.
The tactic used to create such a list is deceptive and dishonest. For instance, it is written "Thou shall not look on the nakedness of thy Kin". One Law. Then God goes on the define what "Kin" means. And the deceivers count each definition of Kin, as a separate Law to get the numbers up. This is done throughout the whole 613 law foolishness. And this for the purpose of Judging God as unjust God who placed 613 laws on the backs of men who trusted Him, that were so egregious, so many in number that it was impossible to obey them. Then they imply that God lied to His People by telling them they COULD obey them, then slaughtered them by the thousands when they didn't.
I have already pointed out the undeniable truth of God that HE Loved, guided, instructed and saved Abraham for 24 years, while he was physically uncircumscribed. I pointed out where God led hundreds of thousands of Israelites through the Wilderness to the Jordan River. Split the Jordan River for them and caused them to walk across
into the Promised Land, on bear ground. And all but 2 men were uncircumcised. I pointed out that the word "Circumcise" is mentioned in the entire Law and Prophets 6 times. 3 of which spoke to Circumcision of the heart, which is the circumcision "after the manner of Moses".
Duet. 10:
16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. 17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
But the mainstream preachers of Paul's time, just as the mainstream preachers of my time, refuse to acknowledge any of these truths, choosing instead to join with the prince of this world in judgment against Judge God, as a God that won't save a man, unless he first cuts the loose skin off his penis.
That I have to point these undeniable Truths that exist in your own Bible, is absurd to me. But then I need to remember, I judged God in the same manner
Wherein in time past I walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
If a man diligently Seek to know God, he will find Him. But if a man is only seeking to justify a religion he adopted, he will find that as well.
So according to what you believe, gentiles were given a licence to sin in regard to, committing murder, stealing, committing adultery, bearing false witness, erecting graven images, having other gods before their father in Heaven, coveting, and much else besides.
No Sir, you are confused here. It is you who said, "Gentiles were asked to follow four of the Mosaic laws, full stop!"
I have always understood that the Gentiles would Seek the Righteousness of God through hearing and trusting the Law and Prophets, as Paul and Jesus teaches them, as the Scriptures are trustworthy
for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Self appoint judges of God, not so trustworthy, in my view.
Well you are entitled to your view, but I disagree with it for obvious reasons.
You are entitled to your disagreements, but the reasons you state do not represent my view.
Nevertheless, it is good that men discuss these things, in the Love of God.
