Biden beats Trump in recent conservative poll

Hans Blaster · Tuesday at 12:45 PM

The Barbarian said:
Yes. For example, most historians ( who have the perspective of history) rate him poorly, but not as the worst. He usually beats out Buchanan and Pierce.

I think without the "war of choice" (Iraq) he'd probably make the lower part of the middle. We've had a *lot* of mediocre presidents. There is a reason so many were single term in the antebellum period.

The Barbarian said:
Bush had the advantage of being a genuinely friendly person who didn't mind laughing at himself. One wall in his presidential library is covered in a cartoon, showing him trying to convince a park service ranger to let him put his bust up on Mt. Rushmore. People forgive a lot if the president isn't insecure and arrogant.

I also had respect for his physics game:

Bush Finds Error In Fermilab Calculations

BATAVIA, IL–President Bush met with members of the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory research team Monday to discuss a mathematical error he recently discovered in the famed laboratory’s "Improved Determination Of Tau Lepton Paths From Inclusive Semileptonic B-Meson Decays" report.

theonion.com

The Barbarian said:
One of my students told me her grandparents live across the street from G.W. Bush. There was a medical emergency, and Bush came across the street and stayed with them until the EMTs got there.

You think things like that will every be said of Donald Trump?

Of course not.

GoldenBoy89 · Tuesday at 2:12 PM

The Barbarian said:
One of my students told me her grandparents live across the street from G.W. Bush. There was a medical emergency, and Bush came across the street and stayed with them until the EMTs got there.

You think things like that will ever be said of Donald Trump?

We don’t even have to imagine.

The Barbarian · Tuesday at 3:16 PM

Hans Blaster said:
I think without the "war of choice" (Iraq) he'd probably make the lower part of the middle.

I was speaking of Trump. He usually comes in third from last. George W. Bush ranks about 22nd. So about where you figured.

Hans Blaster · Tuesday at 5:10 PM

The Barbarian said:
I was speaking of Trump. He usually comes in third from last. George W. Bush ranks about 22nd. So about where you figured.

I see. That makes sense. Trump isn't even in the top 50 presidents.

Vambram · 2026-02-26T12:42:25-0600

Vambram said:
President Trump and President Reagan are the very best US Presidents in the last 64 years.

@CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN
Why are you laughing at my opinion and belief?

Vambram · 2026-02-26T12:44:54-0600

Hans Blaster said:
That's not how tax cuts work. Less taxes = less revenue. With no changes in spending that results in deficits go up.

Incorrect. History shows that when you lower federal tax rates, the GDP grows, income rises and the total amount of federal income tax revenue increases.

BNR32FAN · 2026-02-26T12:51:00-0600

notyourenemy said:
"In the new survey, Trump was hit hard when compared to President Joe Biden. When asked who did a better job, 48% said Biden — and 40% chose Trump."

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Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me since the largest demographic that he’s targeted for deportation are predominantly conservative. As I expected his plan to deport illegal immigrants so they “can’t shift the balance in political parties in the democrats favor” is going to backfire by enraging said demographic and making them more likely to vote democratic in future election. If he had just stuck to what he originally proposed which was getting rid of the dangerous criminals it most likely wouldn’t have become a problem for future republican candidates.

Servus · 2026-02-26T15:55:41-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
I’m talking about her results in ‘24 compared to Trump in 2020. Trump lost by a wider margin in 2020 than Harris lost to him in 2024.

It was a wider margin because Biden somehow managed to get several million more votes then anyone has.

Hans Blaster · 2026-02-26T19:25:10-0600

Vambram said:
Incorrect. History shows that when you lower federal tax rates, the GDP grows, income rises and the total amount of federal income tax revenue increases.

Lafferism is laffable.

The Barbarian · 2026-02-26T20:49:44-0600

Vambram said:
Incorrect. History shows that when you lower federal tax rates, the GDP grows, income rises and the total amount of federal income tax revenue increases.

This was actually tried in Kansas. It was announced with great fanfare as "The Kansas Experiment" Gov. Brownback called it "a shot of adrenaline for Kansas." Turned out more like an overdose of heroin.

The Kansas Experiment - Management Study Guide

This article explains the Kansas experiment. It lists down the mistakes that lead to the economic failure of the state of Kansas as well the effects that followed the failure.

www.managementstudyguide.com

Vambram · 2026-02-26T21:12:02-0600

Hans Blaster said:
Lafferism is laffable.

History and facts show otherwise.

Pommer · 2026-02-26T21:43:48-0600

Vambram said:
History and facts show otherwise.

Hence the debt of $38T (and rising).

Hans Blaster · 2026-02-26T22:06:22-0600

Vambram said:
History and facts show otherwise.

The Laffer curve is a cocktail napkin doodle with no evidence behind it. It was always a fantasy.

rjs330 · 2026-02-26T22:12:19-0600

Ronaldus Magnus and DJ Trump. Two of the greatest presidents since Lincoln.

Vambram · 2026-02-26T22:53:28-0600

Pommer said:
Hence the debt of $38T (and rising).

The national debt is not rising way too high because of lack of federal revenue. The national debt is far too high because politicians in both parties have been unwilling for decades to significantly CUT and REDUCE spending.

Vambram · 2026-02-26T22:54:06-0600

Hans Blaster said:
The Laffer curve is a cocktail napkin doodle with no evidence behind it. It was always a fantasy.

In your opinion it was always a fantasy.

Vambram · 2026-02-26T22:54:29-0600

rjs330 said:
Ronaldus Magnus and DJ Trump. Two of the greatest presidents since Lincoln.

I agree 100%

Hans Blaster · 2026-02-26T23:43:54-0600

Vambram said:
In your opinion it was always a fantasy.

Read some economics. It isn't hard to find.

Try "Laffer debunked"

The Barbarian · 2026-02-27T08:56:29-0600

Vambram said:
History and facts show otherwise.

See above. It was actually tried out in Kansas. With Laffer advising. It was a disaster to the point that the republican-led legislature had an intervention to stop it.

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