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Wilb6487 said:
1 Corinthians 1: 12
What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?"

Not only are these denominations ( which literally means "divisions" ), but Paul clearly reveals what they inherently do to the Body of Christ.
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You missed again, we all follow Jesus Christ regardless of who we were taught the Gospel by, Paul, Apollos, Cephas, or my Pastor Jack.

This is also a warning to avoid cults of personality, like those who certain charismatic preachers and politicians like groupies.
 
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MarkRohfrietsch said:
You missed again,
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Bad communication skill. It rude, condescending and has no place in an adult Christian conversation.

But since you're probably trying to trigger me and hope for an argument , might I just say you entire comment to me showed your arrogance and dogmatic religious finger pointing.

What's more obvious is that Scripture seems to offend your doctrinal position. I'd be careful with that...

Due to your condescending attitude, please refrain from making any further comments to me. In that, I am kindly stating that I think you will likely harass me with more unpleasant jabs.
 
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Wilb6487 said:
1 Corinthians 1: 12
What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?"

Not only are these denominations ( which literally means "divisions" ), but Paul clearly reveals what they inherently do to the Body of Christ.
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Denomination does not mean "division", it means "that which is de-nominated" i.e. named.

www.etymonline.com

Denomination - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

"a naming, act of giving a name to," from Old French denominacion "nominating, naming,"… See origin and meaning of denomination.
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denomination(n.)​

late 14c., denominacioun, "a naming, act of giving a name to," from Old French denominacion "nominating, naming," from Latin denominationem (nominative denominatio) "a calling by anything other than the proper name, metonymy," noun of action from past-participle stem of denominare "to name," from de- "completely" (see de-) + nominare "to name," from nomen "name" (from PIE root *no-men- "name").

From mid-15c. as "a class name, a collective designation," of things; of persons, "a society or collection of individuals," 1660s. From the first comes the monetary sense (1650s) from the second the meaning "religious sect" (1716).
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The use of "denomination" to describe groups of Christian churches and communions arose because everyone accusing another of being a heretic or belonging to a sect was pretty hostile and adversarial. The term denomination gained traction because it was a neutral term that could be used to describe differences among Christians.

As such the concept of Denominationalism emerged within the Protestant world, largely as the idea that while you and I may have serious disagreements over interpretations of Scripture, and points of doctrine and theology, we can still recognize one another as Christians.

I'm rather inclined to prefer that mindset over accusing everyone who doesn't belong to my church of being a damnable heretic.
 
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Denomination does not mean "division", it means "that which is de-nominated" i.e. named.
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That does not conflict with what I've said...

Unless "de-nominated" has some weird religious, philosophical definition, I have no trust in a random comment about a word...
 
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Wilb6487 said:
That does not conflict with what I've said...

Unless "de-nominated" has some weird religious, philosophical definition, I have no trust in a random comment about a word...
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You said that denomination literally means division--it doesn't. That's factually untrue.
 
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Wilb6487 said:
Bad communication skill. It rude, condescending and has no place in an adult Christian conversation.

But since you're probably trying to trigger me and hope for an argument , might I just say you entire comment to me showed your arrogance and dogmatic religious finger pointing.

What's more obvious is that Scripture seems to offend your doctrinal position. I'd be careful with that...

Due to your condescending attitude, please refrain from making any further comments to me. In that, I am kindly stating that I think you will likely harass me with more unpleasant jabs.
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Why should anyone be willing to consider your position when someone refuses to consider theirs. Soapbox preaching vs. meaningful discussion.

Scripture supports Confessional Lutheran theology, it does not offend in the least. Had such not been the case, the reformation would have failed, and Martin Luther would have been burnt.

Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum (VDMA) The Word of the Lord endures forever.
 
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ViaCrucis said:
You said that denomination literally means division--it doesn't. That's factually untrue.
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True, but if something in my comment wasn't wrong, I would have been ignored, as I usually am on this site.

If there's no potential for friction, no one responds... In fact, had I just quoted Scripture, absolutely no one would pay attention to just Scripture because everyone is primed to seek out only that which is wrong to them...

I have misstated that one word, initially intending to say that it inherently creates division...

Names, labels, and such create division. And, ass a matter of illustrating this...

My own sisters have cut me out of their lives because of their denominations' beliefs, and the simple fact that I don't cater to their denominations, doctrines, and dogmas. (One of them is Lutheran, and wouldn't you know it, one respondent's comments clearly supports my concern .. he had to preach a denomination to me, explaining how his religion is biblical.

Then I get, "oh, we all believe the same thing..." But ya don't, and the majority of you prefer to vet anyone who doesn't fit your mold.

Everybody responded to my error regarding a non-biblical word, and it was like dropping a piece of candy near an ant nest.

Noone chose discussing Scripture with me because they were all more concerned about correcting me on a meaningless word.

No one stopped to consider the scripture I offered for the alleged "discussion."

But, the nature of the responses show that no one really cares to discuss Scripture, they just want to discuss their denomination, which vets me from any godly conversation on this site.
 
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Wilb6487 said:
True, but if something in my comment wasn't wrong, I would have been ignored, as I usually am on this site.

If there's no potential for friction, no one responds... In fact, had I just quoted Scripture, absolutely no one would pay attention to just Scripture because everyone is primed to seek out only that which is wrong to them...

I have misstated that one word, initially intending to say that it inherently creates division...

Names, labels, and such create division. And, ass a matter of illustrating this...

My own sisters have cut me out of their lives because of their denominations' beliefs, and the simple fact that I don't cater to their denominations, doctrines, and dogmas. (One of them is Lutheran, and wouldn't you know it, one respondent's comments clearly supports my concern .. he had to preach a denomination to me, explaining how his religion is biblical.

Then I get, "oh, we all believe the same thing..." But ya don't, and the majority of you prefer to vet anyone who doesn't fit your mold.

Everybody responded to my error regarding a non-biblical word, and it was like dropping a piece of candy near an ant nest.

Noone chose discussing Scripture with me because they were all more concerned about correcting me on a meaningless word.

No one stopped to consider the scripture I offered for the alleged "discussion."

But, the nature of the responses show that no one really cares to discuss Scripture, they just want to discuss their denomination, which vets me from any godly conversation on this site.
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Well, it seems you either are not paying attention, or like you just accused me: you "
prefer to vet anyone who doesn't fit your mold."

Secondly, two of us who tried to engage you on the meaning of the scripture quoted, are Lutherans, not just me.

Your style is very disengenuous sir. Stop crying about how you are so hard done by just because others have a different view.

And BTW, non denominational is a denomination that works hard to keep christians seperated from each other, using the idea of my truth is better than yours as an excuse.
 
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