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Hundreds of psychiatrists diagnosed Trump as having Malignant NPD. If the Administration got sick of him, who enacts the 25th? When? How?

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You are really not interested in facts . If you change your mind try watching this video or one of the many videos from Georgia board of elections hearings. There you will find some facts.
Can you please submit a 2 paragraph summary of the claims of the video? I have finite time, and do NOT just go and watch random YouTube stuff submitted by the reality denying far-right.
 
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You are really not interested in facts . If you change your mind try watching this video or one of the many videos from Georgia board of elections hearings. There you will find some facts.
Trump still claiming that he “really won” in Georgia in 2020, doesn’t really help your case, though.
Still claiming it might suggests a very fragile ego that takes defeat as so shameful that “they must have cheated” seems more reasonable, (lest Humpty cannot be put back together again).
 
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Trump still claiming that he “really won” in Georgia in 2020, doesn’t really help your case, though.
Still claiming it might suggests a very fragile ego that takes defeat as so shameful that “they must have cheated” seems more reasonable, (lest Humpty cannot be put back together again).
It obvious some still don’t get it. No one thinks they can undo this mess but the lie that it was “the most free and fair election” is being exposed. For six years all we have heard is Trump tried to over turn a legitimate election and we had to endure the Fanni debacle. Now the truth is coming out. Just watch some of the Georgia election board hearings, it is enough to make one sick . At the very least Trump was right to question that election. The above post is completely devoid of facts in the case and ignores the truth now be revealed. I am reminded of a child with its fingers in its ears shouting na na na na. It is too late to save 2020 but is not too late to save this nation from the corruption that caused it.
 
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Can you please submit a 2 paragraph summary of the claims of the video? I have finite time, and do NOT just go and watch random YouTube stuff submitted by the reality denying far-right.
How about one sentence. The Georgia 2020 election was not the most “free and fair election “! It’s not my problem that you don ‘t have time to pursue facts but have ample time to perpetuate the false narrative of the party.
 
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I'm not a therapist, but I've known a lot them for a very long time. I hear them say this kind of stuff about Trump, but it'd be a lot easier to not think it's BS if they weren't die-hard supporters of the Clintons (who were and still are two of the most evil malignent narcissists to ever play in US politics).
 
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For those who don’t have the time or want to go find the truth for themselves. About ten minutes should not be a problem for anyone who cares about this Republic.
How long is election data in Georgia supposed to be held for?
 
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Trump has Malignant NPD.
Whether or not he is distressed or having the time of his life is not the point.

There is no such diagnosis of "Malignant NPD".

Malignant narcissism is a theoretical personality disorder construct conceptually distinguished from typical narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) by the presence of antisocial behavior, egosyntonic sadism, and a paranoid orientation,[1][2] while still retaining some capacity for guilt and loyalty.[2]
Malignant narcissism is not recognized as a diagnostic category in any major classification system for mental disorders, namely[3]DSM-5-TR,[4] or ICD-11, the latter of which diagnoses personality disorders dimensionally rather than categorically.[5] Rather, it is conceptualized as a subcategory of NPD.[6][7] Although it is not recognized as its own distinct disorder, the Alternative DSM-5 Model for Personality Disorders - presented in section III of both DSM-5 and DSM-5-TR - explicitly mentions "malignant narcissism" as an example of a case when additional antagonistic traits characteristic of antisocial personality disorder[8] may be specified for NPD
Not only is your diagnosis of Trump at odds with the psychiatrist who wrote the criteria for diagnosing NPD, it's not a valid diagnosis for ANYONE.
 
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I think probinson is making a solid point here. Malignant. Narcissist. I for one will refrain from using those two words in the same sentence related to Trump.

To be clear, I don't think any rational, objective person could disagree that Trump is incredibly narcissistic. But I don't think he has a mental disorder. That's just psychiatric name-calling.
 
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To be clear, I don't think any rational, objective person could disagree that Trump is incredibly narcissistic. But I don't think he has a mental disorder. That's just psychiatric name-calling.
Personality disorder.
 
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How long is election data in Georgia supposed to be held for?
I believe GA law requires a 2 year retention for most records. The FBI did seize many records so that was not followed in every case.
 
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. Just watch some of the Georgia election board hearings, it is enough to make one sick .

Listening to Trump badger the Georgia Secretary of state made me sick.

It's an example of NPD.
They cannot admit defeat.
It's always another person's fault or conspiracy against them.

You can hear it as he whined...

*All we need to find is ... 11,780 votes."

Then the lies and delusions start pouring out of his mouth, and Rupert got dimed $787 million for repeating them.

I wish Trump had been fined that amount, then the west might not be on the mess it is in today!
 
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Listening to Trump badger the Georgia Secretary of state made me sick.

It's an example of NPD.
They cannot admit defeat.
It's always another person's fault or conspiracy against them.

You can hear it as he whined...

*All we need to find is ... 11,780 votes."

Then the lies and delusions start pouring out of his mouth, and Rupert got dimed $787 million for repeating them.

I wish Trump had been fined that amount, then the west might not be on the mess it is in today!
You are ignoring the reality of what is actually happening in the Georgia board of elections meetings.
 
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Wow, just listen to you all attacking this man and spreading hate. It sounds like you are trying to ruin his reputation. You could be sued for trying to do that, you know.

How is that loving or forgiveness?
How could his reputation be ruined?
 
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You mean, Hundreds of psychiatrists and mental health quacks.

Malignant narcissism is not recognized as a diagnostic category in any major classification system for mental disorders, namely DSM-5-TR, or ICD-11.
Correct. People should learn not to make things up in fields they are not experts in.

It’s narcissistic personality disorder NOT malignant narcissism in the DSM.
 
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because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder.
To be fair he is largely insulated from the impact of his behaviour because he was born into fantastic wealth.
 
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So we've all agreed that Trump is incredibly narcissistic. Help me understand what is gained by "diagnosing" or labeling him with a "disorder". It just seems like an exercise in futility, trying to argue something that cannot be definitely proved. The premise of the OP was that Trump should be removed from office via the 25th amendment due to this "diagnosis", but that premise is flawed on multiple fronts.
 
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Wow, just listen to you all attacking this man and spreading hate. It sounds like you are trying to ruin his reputation. You could be sued for trying to do that, you know.
Nope. Trump is a public figure, and as such, he'd have to prove actual malice to win a defamation suit. That's a high bar.

Plus which, political speech is specifically protected by the First Amendment.

-- A2SG, besides, no one here can do any worse damage to his reputation than Trump does all by himself.....
 
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So we've all agreed that Trump is incredibly narcissistic. Help me understand what is gained by "diagnosing" or labeling him with a "disorder". It just seems like an exercise in futility, trying to argue something that cannot be definitely proved. The premise of the OP was that Trump should be removed from office via the 25th amendment due to this "diagnosis", but that premise is flawed on multiple fronts.
It’s just the mirror image of the people who for four years claimed Biden had without a doubt all the signs of a dementia diagnosis.

Not so fun to get a taste of the same medicine.
 
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