Biden beats Trump in recent conservative poll

Vambram · 2026-02-23T14:30:34-0600

essentialsaltes said:
‘The fiscal trajectory is not sustainable’: CBO warns about the highest debt in U.S. history as Trump adds $1.4 trillion to 10-year deficit
In its latest budget and economic outlook, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), a nonpartisan federal agency, revised its cumulative deficit projection for the 2026–2035 period upward by $1.4 trillion compared with its forecast from just a year ago.

“Our budget projections continue to indicate that the fiscal trajectory is not sustainable,” CBO Director Phillip Swagel said in a statement, noting the agency’s latest projections. Under laws passed in Trump’s first year back in office, the national debt in 2030 will surpass the historic high of 106% of GDP, which it reached in 1946. Meanwhile, the balance of Social Security’s Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund will be exhausted in 2032, one year earlier than the CBO projected last January.

Neither political party has done anything at all worthwhile to reduce the national debt. The problem about the Social Security trust fund has been mostly ignored for decades. No one political party or politician can be blamed for that mess.

essentialsaltes · 2026-02-23T15:08:25-0600

Vambram said:
Inflation is at less than 3%

Not any more.

Inflation Picked Up in December

The core personal consumption expenditures price index, which excludes food and energy and is the Fed’s preferred inflation gauge, rose 0.4% in December from the prior month and 3.0% from a year earlier, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reported on Friday.

[It was 2.6% in December 2024 under Bidenomics.]

Pommer · 2026-02-23T15:08:39-0600

The Barbarian said:
American citizens pay the tariffs. There's a difference between "illegal" and "stupid."

Vambram said:
No. We don't pay the tariffs. Inflation is at less than 3%

Okay…let’s say that you’re right…and foreign countries’ companies “pay the tariffs”.
Why is it “good” that these companies have to pay to hawk their wares?

Vambram · 2026-02-23T15:25:22-0600

The good reasons for tariffs have already been stated by myself and others on the forums multiple times.

The Barbarian · 2026-02-23T15:32:19-0600

Vambram said:
No. We don't pay the tariffs.

We do. Supplies raise prices on imported goods to cover the tariffs.
In sum, U.S. firms and consumers continue to bear the bulk of the economic burden of the high tariffs imposed in 2025. This is fairly unsurprising. There have been myriad reports on the subject, which all found broadly the same. Even the Congressional Budget Office has come to the same conclusion.

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Vambram said:
Inflation is at less than 3%

The first two years of food inflation under Trump is about 15% greater than the last two years of the Biden Administration, about 50% above the Fed target rate:

Food Inflation in the United States (1968-2026)

The average price of food in the United States rose by 2.9% in the 12 months ending January, after posting an annual increase of 3.1% for December, according to the latest inflation data published February 13, 2026, by the U.S. Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). As recently as...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

And the American people notice this:

An average of major polls shows that he's -26.5 on controlling inflation.

The Barbarian · 2026-02-23T15:42:24-0600

Vambram said:
Why are you laughing at my belief and my opinion?

It's so at odds with the beliefs and opinions of most Americans.

Reagan is one of the best-regarded presidents, a bit below Clinton and a bit above Obama. Trump however, is tied for 2nd to worst.

Larniavc · 2026-02-23T15:56:33-0600

Vambram said:
@Larniavc
Why are you laughing at my belief and my opinion?

Apologies I meant the wow icon.

Edited.

Vambram · 2026-02-23T16:35:56-0600

From Gemini AI:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) report released in February 2026, the annual inflation rate in the United States was 2.4% for the 12 months ending January 2026.
This figure represents the "Headline CPI" (Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers), which reflects the change in prices between January 2025 and January 2026.
Key Inflation Metrics (Jan 2025 – Jan 2026)
The breakdown shows that while overall inflation moderated, different sectors experienced varying levels of price movement:
| Category | Annual Change (%) |
|---|---|
| All Items (Headline CPI) | 2.4% |
| Core CPI (Excludes Food & Energy) | 2.5% |
| Food | 2.9% |
| Energy | -0.1% |
| Shelter | 3.0% |
Notable Trends
* Energy Deflation: Energy prices slightly declined over the year, primarily driven by a drop in gasoline prices (down 7.5%), which helped keep the headline rate lower.
* Core Stability: Core inflation—often viewed as a better indicator of long-term trends because it ignores volatile food and energy costs—remained slightly higher than the headline rate at 2.5%.
* Comparison: The 2.4% rate is a significant decrease from the 3.0% annual inflation rate recorded in January 2025, signaling a cooling economy.

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Vambram · 2026-02-23T16:58:13-0600

Yarddog said:
They are two of the most corrupt. Reagan was extremely likable while no one in government likes Trump.

From HUD to Iran-Contra: Crime During the Reagan Administration | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

I very strongly disagree with your opinion.

Vambram · 2026-02-23T16:59:09-0600

NxNW said:
They're the ones who reduce the deficit.

Since when?

Pommer · 2026-02-23T17:23:45-0600

Vambram said:
The good reasons for tariffs have already been stated by myself and others on the forums multiple times.

You’re fine with “these foreign products are nice, Americans would love to purchase them from you, but you will have to pay for the privilege of having access to our markets…” becuase that’s what your stated beliefs lead to.

Vambram · 2026-02-23T17:49:49-0600

Pommer said:
You’re fine with “these foreign products are nice, Americans would love to purchase them from you, but you will have to pay for the privilege of having access to our markets…” becuase that’s what your stated beliefs lead to.

I'm fine with tariffs that help address the unfair trade practices of foreign countries and foreign corporations which hurt American employees and American businesses. Please don't assume what I believe and why.

Pommer · 2026-02-23T18:04:02-0600

Vambram said:
I'm fine with tariffs that help address the unfair trade practices of foreign countries and foreign corporations which hurt American employees and American businesses. Please don't assume what I believe and why.

Have you always been a “pay for our markets” guy, or had you been a “free-market” conservative like, oh, let’s say, Mitt Romney?

ThatRobGuy · 2026-02-23T18:15:46-0600

Pommer said:
Have you always been a “pay for our markets” guy, or had you been a “free-market” conservative like, oh, let’s say, Mitt Romney?

I know your response was to another person, but I'll chime in anyway...

I used to be much more libertarian leaning about 10-15 years ago.

...but as I got older, I realized that sentiment only works if everyone else leverages the same moral compass. Furthermore, there are some issues where, while the free market would eventually correct it, it can't correct it in the required timeframe to stave off major damage.

To be clear, I think given enough time, the free market (which is just another name for the laws of supply and demand) can solve most any issue...but for some issues, the timelines don't jive.

For example, if a chemical company is dumping waste in a region's water supply (but sells their goods dirt cheap), eventually after enough people get poisoned, public opinion will turn and demand for their stuff will go down no matter how much cheaper they are than the competitors, but if that opinion reversal doesn't happen before half the town is poisoned, and the ChemCorp has accumulated enough money to just start another company somewhere else and do the exact same thing, then that's a problem.

Although, to be clear, I haven't gone over to the other opposite extreme, I still think it's absurd that there's so much regulation in some areas that it costs millions of dollars to build a public toilet or takes $8k and 4 months of red tape to put solar panels in (like in some Cali cities)

Say it aint so · 2026-02-23T18:36:22-0600

Vambram said:
Nothing illegal at all to use tariffs that protect employees and American businesses from the very unfair trade policies of foreign countries and foreign businesses.

Well......no. The SCOTUS just ruled it illegal.

Vambram · 2026-02-23T18:42:46-0600

Say it aint so said:
Well......no. The SCOTUS just ruled it illegal.

Did you NOT know that there are already other laws passed by Congress decades ago that enable President to use tariffs? The SCOTUS ruling was only about the usage of the IEFFA law.

Say it aint so · 2026-02-23T18:48:14-0600

Vambram said:
Did you NOT know that there are already other laws passed by Congress decades ago that enable President to use tariffs? The SCOTUS ruling was only about the usage of the IEFFA law.

"IEEPA" Yes. He abused that hammer and the court took it away. Yes. Now he is reduced to a capped tariff that can only last 5 months. Given what Europe just said in no ratification, tells us Trump never had a deal with them anyway. I will bet dollars to donuts every other country never actually signed a completed deal with the "90 deals in 90 days" economic geniuses.

Yarddog · 2026-02-23T19:02:45-0600

Vambram said:
I very strongly disagree with your opinion.

It wasn't an opinion. There are plenty of records proving the corruption and those convicted of crimes.

Pepperdoodle · 2026-02-23T19:16:52-0600

notyourenemy said:
"In the new survey, Trump was hit hard when compared to President Joe Biden. When asked who did a better job, 48% said Biden — and 40% chose Trump."

share.google/PC9nMeH0KNzdioQJP

Not sure how a low functioning President like Biden could beat any President in a Poll.
It was mainly Biden's administration and some unelected ones that ran things.
Joe could barely make it off a stage or up stairs ‍♀️

wing2000 · 2026-02-23T20:19:04-0600

The Barbarian said:
We do. Supplies raise prices on imported goods to cover the tariffs.
In sum, U.S. firms and consumers continue to bear the bulk of the economic burden of the high tariffs imposed in 2025. This is fairly unsurprising. There have been myriad reports on the subject, which all found broadly the same. Even the Congressional Budget Office has come to the same conclusion.

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The first two years of food inflation under Trump is about 15% greater than the last two years of the Biden Administration, about 50% above the Fed target rate:

Food Inflation in the United States (1968-2026)

The average price of food in the United States rose by 2.9% in the 12 months ending January, after posting an annual increase of 3.1% for December, according to the latest inflation data published February 13, 2026, by the U.S. Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). As recently as...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

And the American people notice this:
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An average of major polls shows that he's -26.5 on controlling inflation.

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