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DaisyDay
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Many were here legally but then suddenly had their refugee status removed - for instance, the Haitian refugees. One day legal, the next revoked. Then there were those who were here legally, going through all the hoops, who got arrested during their immigration check-in. One was taken out just before their naturalization swearing in.
Too many people being mass deported were not here illegally but they had not yet become citizens.
Are you not aware that immigrants, temporary workers and tourists can be here without being citizens? Give this some thought, maybe.
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Why would I?
I am not, contrary to your assumption, criticizing America for having immigration laws but for ignoring them selectively.
That wasn't my question which was, "In what way do you show your empathy for homosexual immigrants who vote Democratic?" You claim to have empathy, but how do you show it?
Then why in the world are you posting in the specifically political section of the forum, letting the world know how much you despise those of a particular political party? Seems a bit.....
So "all men" includes women....okay.
If I posted links to many stories backing my claims, would you actually read them? I and others have posted tons of them in other threads but if you got them in this one, would you read them? They are easy enough to find, but I don't want to go to the trouble yet again if you are not going to bother.
No one expects perfection but this is deliberate flouting of our laws and regulations.
Then why state, "They must prove he's a citizen" as though only citizens are here legally?
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First, so what if he did? Second, was the criticism of him the same or was it different?
I don't recall that he flagrantly violated due process of deportees. Do you have any examples? Who specifically accused him of deporting without love?
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Ok, they. They must prove he entered and stayed here legally. Should I show empathy to lawbreakers? If so then why not show it to trump who is accused of breaking the law?
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Im trying to shed light on the evil of politics. Thats why im here. I would like to see Christians love each other instead of splitting up into rival political factions
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Just out and out revoking a legal status is not a matter of traffic violations. What I am talking about is factual legal status provided by the US and then based on a presidents racial preferences, revoking that status.
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Eh?
That doesn't seem to matter since even with a judge's order, he gets deported (then reimported).
That's up to you. What you should do depends on what you wish to accomplish.
My actual question to you did not concern lawbreaking but gay immigrants who vote for Democrats - which question you still have neglected to answer forthrightly.
Are you confused?
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How should I feel empathy for doing evil and trying to justify it? If someone came here to save their life i understand but most are not here for that reason. They are here for the money
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Who won?
If this is your goal, then going on a diatribe on how much you dislike certain political persuasions may not be the best way.......Unless you're trying to say "Hey, don't be like me" because your words belie your stated intentions.
You claimed you had empathy. Whether you should or not is your determination.
Wait, by someone coming here, you don't mean people posting in the politics forum but immigrants, right? This conversation is all over the place.
Some are here for their lives, some were brought as children, some came for a better quality of life, some are here to see and some are here for the money. The tourists are probably here for the experience.
I'd say nearly all the people here on work visas are here for the money as well as for the experience. Do you think money is evil somehow?
Yes, yes I do. If you do not, perhaps the lack is in you.That is sad if that is true for you; I don't see you masquerading here. Many of us do have true love in politics. What we see is very often our own reflection.
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You keep preaching divisions over mans politics if you wish. But others shouldn't act as if breaking the immigration law is an act of Gods love.Who won?
If this is your goal, then going on a diatribe on how much you dislike certain political persuasions may not be the best way.......Unless you're trying to say "Hey, don't be like me" because your words belie your stated intentions.
You claimed you had empathy. Whether you should or not is your determination.
Wait, by someone coming here, you don't mean people posting in the politics forum but immigrants, right? This conversation is all over the place.
Some are here for their lives, some were brought as children, some came for a better quality of life, some are here to see and some are here for the money. The tourists are probably here for the experience.
I'd say nearly all the people here on work visas are here for the money as well as for the experience. Do you think money is evil somehow?
That is sad if that is true for you; I don't see you masquerading here. Many of us do have true love in politics. What we see is very often our own reflection.
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