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‘Enough Is Enough’: Democrats Threaten Shutdown Over ICE Funding - but.....

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No, that is not obvious. You have to actually make a case for claims like these.

The fact that Obama and Biden won an election is enough proof that there is enormous fraud being perpetrated by the Democrats.
 
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Once again the Democrats are holding the US hostage to get what they cannot have through legislative means. The legislators cannot achieve their goals - so ransom is the alternative.
 
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Once again the Democrats are holding the US hostage to get what they cannot have through legislative means. The legislators cannot achieve their goals - so ransom is the alternative.
They are debating legislation. This is the legislative means. Maybe if the Republicans had been more willing to talk before the deadline arrived, this could have been avoided. But Speaker Johnson kept the House adjourned.
 
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They are debating legislation. This is the legislative means. Maybe if the Republicans had been more willing to talk before the deadline arrived, this could have been avoided. But Speaker Johnson kept the House adjourned.
The bills were already passed in the house through bi partisan vote - maybe if the Democrats would stop using the American Public hostage the Senate could pass what Speaker Johnson has already had passed in the house.

The funding for ICE was passed in the Big Beautiful Bill - that is why this latest temper tantrum has no effect on their funds.

The Republican asked for what the Democrats negotiating points we and almost immediately agreed to the body cam - for ICE - the one that is fully funded.

The ones who call themselves the 'adults in the room' stamped their foot and said unless they get everything they asked for they are not budging - that is not negotiations - that is hold citizens ransom.
 
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They are debating legislation. This is the legislative means. Maybe if the Republicans had been more willing to talk before the deadline arrived, this could have been avoided. But Speaker Johnson kept the House adjourned.
The Republicans already heard what kind of talk the Democrats wanted to do. The Democrats want everything their way or they won't even fund the government and they're willing to once again (the 3rd time in a row) prevent ordinary Americans from getting a paycheck for the work they're doing. All to "punish" an agency that is already funded.
 
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The Democrats want everything their way or they won't even fund the government
Most of the government is funded. Just not the Department that's shooting Americans dead. There may be some tweaks needed there, and if the GOP won't get on board, so much the worse for them.
 
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Most of the government is funded. Just not the Department that's shooting Americans dead. There may be some tweaks needed there, and if the GOP won't get on board, so much the worse for them.
"Most", including the department that's rounding up illegals. So the shutdown is a waste of time. Just democrat theatrics.
 
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