• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

  • The rule regarding AI content has been updated. The rule now rules as follows:

    Be sure to credit AI when copying and pasting AI sources. Link to the site of the AI search, just like linking to an article.

Trump and Politics

RandyPNW

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
3,848
867
Pacific NW, USA
✟192,123.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
There is no valid evidence. Only Trump’s accusations and own efforts to influence results. Foreign influence? Like it or not we now live in global info whirlpool and Trump’s chronic lies are not a remedy. Be careful not to mistake his, now quite open, self promotions as patriotism.
It is telling that only the Democrat Party, the Democrat-controlled Media, and those influenced by them who say there is "no valid evidence" of corruption in the 2020 election. As you likely know, the election rules were changed from state to state during the COVID era. This alone calls into question the election results as they normally are produced.

When, for example, should votes be counted for long periods of time, except by the traditional military absentee ballot? When have states gone to a preference for mail in balloting or voting on street corners? When has there been such a resistance to watching the election process, suggesting it is "voter intimidation?"

As a result of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, there have been concerns about the potential impact on the 2020 federal election cycle. Some states have delayed primary elections, and, in other jurisdictions, officials have moved polling places away from high-risk populations. As the public health crisis continues, new questions are emerging about the safety and accessibility of voting in the remaining federal primaries and the November 3 general election. These concerns are coupled with questions about how to maintain election integrity. As a result, courts across the nation have been considering challenges to key aspects of state election laws.

Much of the recent election law litigation relating to COVID-19 has challenged aspects of state laws addressing absentee voting and all-mail voting, also known as vote-by-mail. In this Sidebar, absentee voting generally refers to state laws that permit eligible voters to request and cast ballots by mail without physically going to the polls on Election Day. All-mail voting generally refers to state laws that provide for automatic mailing of ballots to all eligible voters.

This Sidebar outlines the legal landscape for state and federal election laws, examines recent challenges to state laws in response to the pandemic, and briefly discusses select legislation introduced in the 116th Congress.
 
Upvote 0

Akita Suggagaki

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2018
10,999
7,772
71
Midwest
✟406,115.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
It is telling that only the Democrat Party, the Democrat-controlled Media, and those influenced by them who say there is "no valid evidence" of corruption in the 2020 election.
Are you aware of any actual substantial evidence? We can always question anything, especially when we lose. I am all for finding the truth. I no longer have a favorite side or party. But just because a process changes dies not make it suspicious.

Trump and his inner circle, especially Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, and Kristi Noem are just bad for democracy. Be very cautious about what they call patriotism. I think even Republicans are beginning to see that.
 
Upvote 0

RandyPNW

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
3,848
867
Pacific NW, USA
✟192,123.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Are you aware of any actual substantial evidence? We can always question anything, especially when we lose. I am all for finding the truth. I no longer have a favorite side or party. But just because a process changes dies not make it suspicious.

Trump and his inner circle, especially Stephen Miller, Pam Bondi, and Kristi Noem are just bad for democracy. Be very cautious about what they call patriotism. I think even Republicans are beginning to see that.
You may be politically neutral but I can safely guess that you get your news from liberal/progressive news sources. I love Miller, Bondi, and Noem because all 3 have served well. Saying they are "bad for democracy" sounds terribly biased, since they are all strong conservatives who wish to retain the traditional constitutional definition of democracy, as opposed to the more nuanced definition given by liberals who favor illegal allien participation in the census and in the voting process.

There have been efforts underway in determining how far the election corruption existed in the Georgia election in 2020. That it existed is beyond question. You just won't find how extensive it was unless you allow intense examination. And that is being prohibited or obstructed. Those who obstruct may think it's "bad for democracy" to allow careful scrutiny of compromised elections?
 
Upvote 0

weary2025

Active Member
Feb 17, 2026
211
30
51
West liberty
✟1,312.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
You might as well say no Christian lives by Christian moral standards. It is a meaningless, judgmental statement. Would you argue that there are no true Christians in political office?

The problem with this kind of attitude is it seems geared to destroy all political discussion. We are told that "political" discussions are on trial, due to the continual influx of nasty rhetoric. Is that what you're trying to achieve? I hope not.

If you're just trying to get political discussion "canned," if it doesn't promote your own point of view, why don't you simply stop posting on political subjects altogether? Please allow others to discuss these important subjects with a more "agreeable" spirit?
How am I stopping anyone by giving my opinion?
 
Upvote 0

RandyPNW

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
3,848
867
Pacific NW, USA
✟192,123.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
How am I stopping anyone by giving my opinion?
Not this forum, but on another forum we were threatened with cancelling all discussion of politics because previous discussions were filled with less than "Christian" attitudes and rhetoric. I wish, therefore, to keep our opinions as civil as possible, while admitting different opinions--even emotional ones.
 
Upvote 0

RandyPNW

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
3,848
867
Pacific NW, USA
✟192,123.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
What is your unbiased news source, Randy?
Did I say there was an unbiased news source? What I meant to say is that the source you're drawing upon is a Left-Wing news source. Tell me it ain't so? ;)
 
Upvote 0

Akita Suggagaki

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2018
10,999
7,772
71
Midwest
✟406,115.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Did I say there was an unbiased news source? What I meant to say is that the source you're drawing upon is a Left-Wing news source. Tell me it ain't so? ;)
Do you consider AP, Reuters and WSJ "Left Wing"? Tell me you like Fox News.
 
Upvote 0

RandyPNW

Well-Known Member
Jun 8, 2021
3,848
867
Pacific NW, USA
✟192,123.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Do you consider AP, Reuters and WSJ "Left Wing"? Tell me you like Fox News.
Regardless of how they vote, they're pretty much Trump haters. I used to watch Fox News, but have switched to Newsmax. I have MSN as my opening web page, and fully understand the Leftists' pov, as well as TDS. Some "moderate" Republicans are no better than "moderate" Democrats.

WSJ is right-leaning, but a Trump hater. The AP and Reuters are on the Left, yes. You should be aware of this. The views you hold to may have been planted into you.

No American in their right mind would favor the inundation of America by criminal illegal aliens. And yet, victims of propaganda have been taught to believe what it is against their nature to believe. This is evidence of a powerful Media influence.
 
Upvote 0