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Possibly the most misconstrued doctrine in all of Christianity
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under grace1
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Well what I quoted are sins, concerning transgressing the ten commandments. We must be consistent where sin/transgressing law is concerned
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under grace1
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OK, but is it not sin to transgress what is written in the ten commandments? Is what is written in those commands not applicable today
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under grace1
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You mean like:
Do not invite friends or family home for a meal, but rather the poor, blind lame and beggars so you may receive your reward in Heaven
If anyone asks to lend from you, give to them without expecting anything back
If someone steals from you, give them more than what they steal, with nothing but love in your heart for them
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under grace1
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If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Luke6:27-31
Though I take your point from Matthews gospel
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under grace1
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Saul was blameless concerning the legalistic/mosaic side of the law of rite, ritual and ceremony, he was not blameless concerning the ten commandments, as he told the Romans(Rom7:7-11)
The worst of sinners could not have been blameless concerning the entire law and therefore committed no sin
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under grace1
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When you think about it, it is not so hard to obey outwardly is it. It may be considered tiresome to obey the law of rite, ritual; and ceremony, but it is not impossible. IE, avoiding the levitical unclean foods could faultlessly be done. As could avoid wearing clothes of certain interwoven fabrics, as could shaving a beard in certain places. So could observing certain feasts for example. All of these things could faultlessly be obeyed. But will a person faultlessly love their enemies? Will a person faultlessly love their neighbour? Will a person faultlessly obey in their thoughts/desires?
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You bring up a point i would like to explore. How do we obey with our thoughts? Sometimes we blame ourselves for our thoughts but the apostle Paul doesn't teach that. He teaches that we cast down wrong thoughts. This is spiritual warfare as far as I know. Are we guilty of evil thoughts or is it simply temptation that can be overcome? Wasn't Jesus tempted yet sinless?
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under grace1
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Paul said the ten commandments were the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation. Why?
Not many people are homicidal maniacs and have a compulsion to actually kill someone. Not many cannot stop themselves stealing. It isn't that hard not to commit the physical act of adultery, or not to take the Lord's name in vain is it. And who cannot stop themselves carving an idol out of stone?
But the TC go much further than that. They relate to what goes on, on the inside of man, his thoughts/desires. Hence, Paul gave an example of why he had to die to the law as he put it. The example he gave was of the tenth commandment. Thou shalt not covet/desire what is not yours to desire. That commandment brought condemnation to him.
But are you going to cast down every impure thought, so you cease to have them, is that what Paul means?
Will you cease to desire anything of your neighbours, whether material goods or a member of their household?
Will you never lust for anyone apart from your spouse?
Will you fully obey the law relating to the inner man, the law no one but you and God need know you break
Many say it is easy to obey the TC, but are they relating those commands to only outward obedience, or also to what goes on, on the inside of man?
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under grace1
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That's great, but my original point was, to obey outwardly is not so hard. Jesus said the Pharisees cleaned the outside of the cup, but the inside was very different. I don't believe any of us will perfectly obey on the inside, however much we may desire to. As you say, our minds are a battlefield, would they be if we faultlessly obeyed in our minds?
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