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Two Aspects of Salvation (Believers Need to Be Concerned With):

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Lets see if you have understanding
Why is the power of sin the law 1Cor15:56
Why are sinfull passions aroused in us by the law Rom7:5
Why/how was sin able to take occasion of the command not to covet to arouse all manner of concupiscence in Saul? Rom7:7&8

You cannot answer those questions can you, why not?
What I understand Paul to be teaching is that the law strengthens sin because it gives a fuller and clearer accounting of wrongdoing. Even apart from a written command, a person still has conscience, which bears witness and can accuse or excuse them (Romans 2:14–15). So man is not morally neutral without the written law. However, when the law comes, it does something more specific and forceful: it explicitly defines transgression, removes ambiguity, and establishes a clearer standard of accountability. In this way, the law does not create sin but intensifies its exposure and judicial weight.

This is exactly what Paul means when he says in Romans 5:20 that the law entered so that the offense might abound. The Greek shows the law “entered alongside,” meaning sin already existed, yet the law magnified trespass by making it explicit and undeniable. Conscience may convict internally, but the law provides an external divine standard that clarifies the violation and renders guilt more formally accountable. Because sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4), the presence of law sharpens the definition of sin and increases its imputability. Thus sin gains greater operative potency, not by being created, but by being more clearly revealed and condemned.

This helps explain Paul’s statement that the strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56). The law gives sin its condemning leverage because it transforms wrongdoing into explicit transgression, intensifies awareness of guilt, and establishes the basis for judgment that leads to death. In that sense, the law adds a second layer of moral accounting: conscience already witnesses internally, but the law provides an objective divine declaration that makes the violation unmistakable. Consequently, sin’s reign is reinforced through condemnation, yet Paul’s larger argument shows that Christ’s righteousness removes that condemnation if we accept His grace by faith and walk after the Spirit. This breaks sin’s dominion, and secures resurrection victory so that grace may reign through righteousness (both imputed righteousness by faith and by living righteously) unto eternal life.

Sin reigns unto death. But grace reigns through righteousness (Which is both the belief version and the obedience version) (Romans 5:21 KJV). This includes the grace of God that gives a person the ability to do the work of faith (1 Corinthians 15:10 KJV). For God's grace teaches us to deny ungodliness, and that we should live righteously and godly in this present world (Titus 2:11-12 KJV).

God gives grace to the humble (James 4:6 KJV).
James continues to say, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded." (James 4:7-8 KJV).

"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law" (Galatians 5:18 KJV).
"Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh." (Galatians 5:16 KJV).
"And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Galatians 5:24 KJV).
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." (1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV).



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What I understand Paul to be teaching is that the law strengthens sin because it gives a fuller and clearer accounting of wrongdoing. Even apart from a written command, a person still has conscience, which bears witness and can accuse or excuse them (Romans 2:14–15). So man is not morally neutral without the written law. However, when the law comes, it does something more specific and forceful: it explicitly defines transgression, removes ambiguity, and establishes a clearer standard of accountability. In this way, the law does not create sin but intensifies its exposure and judicial weight.

This is exactly what Paul means when he says in Romans 5:20 that the law entered so that the offense might abound. The Greek shows the law “entered alongside,” meaning sin already existed, yet the law magnified trespass by making it explicit and undeniable. Conscience may convict internally, but the law provides an external divine standard that clarifies the violation and renders guilt more formally accountable. Because sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4), the presence of law sharpens the definition of sin and increases its imputability. Thus sin gains greater operative potency, not by being created, but by being more clearly revealed and condemned.

This helps explain Paul’s statement that the strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56). The law gives sin its condemning leverage because it transforms wrongdoing into explicit transgression, intensifies awareness of guilt, and establishes the basis for judgment that leads to death. In that sense, the law adds a second layer of moral accounting: conscience already witnesses internally, but the law provides an objective divine declaration that makes the violation unmistakable. Consequently, sin’s reign is reinforced through condemnation, yet Paul’s larger argument shows that Christ’s righteousness removes that condemnation, breaks sin’s dominion, and secures resurrection victory so that grace may reign through righteousness unto eternal life.

Sin reigns unto death. But grace reigns through righteousness (Romans 5:21 KJV). This would be the grace of God that gives a person the ability to do the work of faith (1 Corinthians 15:10 KJV). For God's grace teaches us to deny ungodliness, and that we should live righteously and godly in this present world (Titus 2:11-12 KJV).

God gives grace to the humble (James 4:6 KJV).
James continues to say, "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded." (James 4:7-8 KJV).

"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law" (Galatians 5:18 KJV).
"Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh." (Galatians 5:16 KJV).
"And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Galatians 5:24 KJV).
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." (1 Peter 4:1-2 KJV).



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The true power of sin is the penalty attached to the law for transgression
Someone says to a young teenager

‘’The righteous/justified will obey the TC,

Let us suppose the young teenager is not in ignorance as to what is entailed in obeying the TC, they know no watered down version of them exists. Before them stands the tenth commandment. They must NOT lust/ dwell on any impure thought. What will go through the young teenagers mind?



‘’I must not dwell on any impure thought, if I do it shows I Am not justified before God and will end up in hell’’

Im sure the young man would be petrified of such thoughts, what could you fear more, as a believer than being cast into hell for eternity?

Can you escape thinking of what you fear, or, will thoughts of what you fear consume you? Speaking for myself, when I was young, the more I feared something, the more wild imaginations went through my mind concerning what I feared, and so, concerning the young teenager:

‘’I don’t want to go to hell, I must not dwell on any impure thought, I must not’’



What will be the result? Well it shouldn‘t take much discernment to know. But Paul can explain it. In Rom7:7-11 he is speaking of the time the law came to him, as a thirteen year old, for that is when a young Jewish lad made a personal commitment to God:

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence/sexual desire/passions. For without the law sin was dead. Rom7:7&8
 
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There is no ten commandments anymore as a legally binding law with the power to condemn. Law as we naturally understand law to mean has been abolished, for that law comes in two parts, what is written in the law and the penalty for transgression, Jesus died to pay the believers penalty of transgression/their sin
However, what is written in the law is holy, just and good(Rom7:12) Jesus did not die to abolish what is holy, just and good, he died to end mans condemnation under what is holy, just and good.
What is holy, just and good got transferred from an external law engraved in stone to an internal law written in the minds and placed on the hearts of believers(2Cor3:3)
Hence:
In believers minds they know God does not want them to steal, lie, commit adultery, murder, take God's name in vain covet

''I will write my laws in their minds''

And in believers hearts(the flesh is another matter) they do not want to do those things:
''And I will place my laws in their hearts''

There is reading the random letter of the bible, and understanding the message contained in the letter
Two very different things
First, I do not agree that the Ten Commandments continue as a present covenant law over believers. Scripture teaches that the ministry associated with the Mosaic law belonged to an earlier administration that faded and was surpassed by the ministry of the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:7–11). This shows the issue is not merely that the penalty was removed while the same covenant law remains intact, but that the covenant itself has been replaced by the New Covenant reality of God’s law written on the heart (2 Corinthians 3:3; Hebrews 8:10). Therefore, the Ten Commandments do not continue as the governing covenant law over believers in the present age.

A plain reading of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount further shows that even before the New Covenant was formally established through His death, Jesus was already exercising authority over the Mosaic law. He repeatedly says, “It is written,” and then follows with, “But I say unto you” (Matthew 5:21–48), demonstrating that He was not merely repeating the law but authoritatively clarifying and redirecting how God’s will was to be understood under His kingdom. This indicates that the transition to the New Covenant and the law of Christ was already being introduced by Jesus Himself, showing a change in covenant administration rather than a simple continuation of the Mosaic law as the governing covenant standard.

Second, after the cross, the New Covenant does not leave believers without law or commandments. Scripture speaks instead of the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) and the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The New Testament contains binding commands, including the command to believe in Jesus (1 John 3:23), and Paul states that what he writes are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37). This demonstrates that the covenantal shift is not from law to lawlessness, but from the Mosaic covenant to the New Covenant law of Christ, where obedience is Spirit-empowered and centered on faith and righteous living under Christ’s authority.



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The true power of sin is the penalty attached to the law for transgression
Someone says to a young teenager

‘’The righteous/justified will obey the TC,

Let us suppose the young teenager is not in ignorance as to what is entailed in obeying the TC, they know no watered down version of them exists. Before them stands the tenth commandment. They must NOT lust/ dwell on any impure thought. What will go through the young teenagers mind?



‘’I must not dwell on any impure thought, if I do it shows I Am not justified before God and will end up in hell’’

Im sure the young man would be petrified of such thoughts, what could you fear more, as a believer than being cast into hell for eternity?

Can you escape thinking of what you fear, or, will thoughts of what you fear consume you? Speaking for myself, when I was young, the more I feared something, the more wild imaginations went through my mind concerning what I feared, and so, concerning the young teenager:

‘’I don’t want to go to hell, I must not dwell on any impure thought, I must not’’



What will be the result? Well it shouldn‘t take much discernment to know. But Paul can explain it. In Rom7:7-11 he is speaking of the time the law came to him, as a thirteen year old, for that is when a young Jewish lad made a personal commitment to God:

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence/sexual desire/passions. For without the law sin was dead. Rom7:7&8

There is no point in continuing this conversation any further.
You are only going to keep spewing more of your own nonsense.
You have been indoctrinated by candy coated Christianity and or your own false thinking.




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There is no point in continuing this conversation any further.
You are only going to keep spewing more of your own nonsense.
You have been indoctrinated by candy coated Christianity and or your own false thinking.




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Oh its not nonsense. If you actually held God's laws to the pristene level they are set at, and believed what you preach you must also practice, THEN what I described to you of a young teenager would happen to you also. It's how the human mind reacts. But I don't think you have the heartfelt conviction of sin according to where the bar is set not to commit sin that others have. If you did, you could not write what you do
 
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First, I do not agree that the Ten Commandments continue as a present covenant law over believers.


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What do you preach about sin?
Those in Christ have crucified the lusts of the flesh

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
You take that literally

Is it sin to:
covet
lie
take the Lord's name in vain
steal
murder
commit adultery

Or is it only sin under the old covenant?
 
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There is no point in continuing this conversation any further.
You are only going to keep spewing more of your own nonsense.
You have been indoctrinated by candy coated Christianity and or your own false thinking.




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BTW
Live each day in your own life according to what you inflexibly preach
Keep telling yourself all day long if you have not crucified the lusts of your flesh you will end up in hell. So one lustful thought, under those conditions will send you to hell
Tell yourself all day long if you commit any sin at all you have not been born of God and will end up in hell.
Live that with the utmost heartfelt conviction every day in your life, and see what the result will be
 
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We are done talking. There is no point talking to you.
You are going to keep promoting your nonsense.
You are not interested in what the Bible actually says in context because you think the context is bad.




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@under grace1

We are done talking. There is no point talking to you.
You are going to keep promoting your nonsense.
You are not interested in what the Bible actually says in context because you think the context is bad.




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Why don't you try and live up to what you preach, see how you get along.

Live each day in your own life according to what you inflexibly preach
Keep telling yourself all day long if you have not entirely crucified all the lusts of your flesh you will end up in hell. So one lustful thought, under those conditions will send you to hell
Tell yourself all day long if you commit any sin at all you have not been born of God and will end up in hell.
Live that with the utmost heartfelt conviction every day of your life, and see what the result will be



And I don't see much context from you, just quote the spasmodic literal letter of many scriptures and insist they are fully, and inflexibly followed
What I have told you is the truth, according to what is written
 
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