Another look at the moon landing.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-18T04:21:43-0600

David Lamb said:
Perspective does NOT make things appear to vanish below the horizon.

David Lamb · 2026-02-18T04:27:17-0600

Apple Sky said:
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But the distant lamp posts are not disappearing over the horizon, are they? They just appear smaller than the nearer ones. When the sun sets, it doesn't get smaller and smaller, but rather, it gradually disappears, so that half way through a sunset, we see only half of the sun, not the whole sun but getting smaller. Look at the distant lamp posts in your picture. They still appear as whole lamp posts, but smaller than the nearer ones.

prodromos · 2026-02-18T04:51:48-0600

Apple Sky said:
The sun does not rise or set, it travels the sky doing it's circuit & it is due to our perspective & the distance it is at that we see the sun rise & set.

We've been over this before.

You fail just like you have the other times.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-18T06:11:16-0600

David Lamb said:
But the distant lamp posts are not disappearing over the horizon, are they? They just appear smaller than the nearer ones. When the sun sets, it doesn't get smaller and smaller, but rather, it gradually disappears, so that half way through a sunset, we see only half of the sun, not the whole sun but getting smaller. Look at the distant lamp posts in your picture. They still appear as whole lamp posts, but smaller than the nearer ones.

As with the lampposts it is the same principle with the sun the only difference is that the sun stays the same size.

David Lamb · 2026-02-18T06:18:13-0600

Apple Sky said:
As with the lampposts it is the same principle with the sun the only difference is that the sun stays the same size.

First, why does the sun stay the same size? On a flat earth, the sun is further away at sunset and sunrise than it is at midday, so it should appear smaller at sunrise and sunset.

Second, as I mentioned in my post, the lamp posts are not the same as the sun. Not only do the more distant lamp posts appear smaller than the nearer ones (unlike the sun), the more distant lamp posts are whole, just appearing smaller (again unlike the setting sun).

NxNW · 2026-02-18T09:48:10-0600

Apple Sky said:
You mean the globe & walking on the moon.

We've already established that you can see the curvature of the earth from a plane. And there is plenty of proof of the moon landings.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-18T10:58:50-0600

NxNW said:
We've already established that you can see the curvature of the earth from a plane.

No we haven't, you may have seen it bit I haven't.

NxNW said:
And there is plenty of proof of the moon landings.

Please give me some.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-18T11:07:07-0600

David Lamb said:
First, why does the sun stay the same size?

As it circles the skies it causes south to be light & the north to be dark & vice a versa, as such;

The sun is always the same size.

prodromos · 2026-02-18T12:18:52-0600

Apple Sky said:
As with the lampposts it is the same principle with the sun the only difference is that the sun stays the same size.

Thus it cannot be perspective.

prodromos · 2026-02-18T12:22:46-0600

Apple Sky said:
As it circles the skies it causes south to be light & the north to be dark & vice a versa, as such;

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Yin-yang? You going back to pagan sources again?

Apple Sky said:
The sun is always the same size.

When viewed from millions of miles away. So once again, what we observe is consistent with the heliocentric globe model.

Just so you understand, the radius of the Earth is just under 4,000 miles and the Sun is 93,000,000 miles from the earth, so the actual change in size of the sun from dawn to noon due to perspective is on the order of 0.0043%. The difference is so tiny that it cannot be perceived.

If the Earth was as you claim with the Sun 3000 miles up, the Sun at dawn would be twice the distance at roughly 6000 miles so should appear half the size it has at noon due to perspective, so you have just proved flat earth false with your observation that the Sun does not change in size.

Hentenza · 2026-02-18T12:53:36-0600

Apple Sky said:
No we haven't, you may have seen it bit I haven't.

We actually have in one of these threads forget which one but we’ve talked about it plenty.

Apple Sky said:
Please give me some.

We have given you plenty. I even posted the pictures of the 400,000 pounds of stuff that the landings left behind.,

NxNW · 2026-02-18T21:43:40-0600

Apple Sky said:
No we haven't, you may have seen it bit I haven't.

Who's fault is it that you weren't paying attention?

Apple Sky said:
Please give me some.

The fact that not a single one of the 400,000 working on it has come forward to say it's fake.

The fact that the radio signals were tracked from the moon.

The equipment still in place on the moon.

Video shot from the lunar model matches exactly when modern footage of the landing area.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-19T00:45:05-0600

prodromos said:
So once again, what we observe is consistent with the heliocentric globe model.

What we really observe, does the sun look like it's 93 million miles away to you ?

prodromos · 2026-02-19T01:33:01-0600

Apple Sky said:
What we really observe, does the sun look like it's 93 million miles away to you ?

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The sun must be back there in the car park.

prodromos · 2026-02-19T01:52:01-0600

Crepuscular rays only occur around dawn and dusk, when the sun is close to the horizon, so at a very shallow angle. The clouds are both very high but also very, very distant' so although the gaps in the clouds appear close together they are actually far apart, as far apart as the spots of light on the ocean. The rays of light are in fact parallel, just as the shadows are in the photo I posted above this post.

David Lamb · 2026-02-19T02:59:55-0600

Apple Sky said:
As it circles the skies it causes south to be light & the north to be dark & vice a versa, as such;

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The sun is always the same size.

That doesn't work. If you have a light source above a flat surface, the whole surface receives some of the light (although the part of the surface immediately below the light sources will be brighter than elsewhere.) Try moving a torch around an otherwise dark room. Everey part of the room will be lightened, to a certain extent.

Why does the sun always appear the same size? In your flat earth animation, the sun should appear smaller as it moves further from the observer, because of perspective. What we actually see is the sun remaining the same size, but disappearing little by little over the horizon.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-19T04:48:59-0600

David Lamb said:
What we actually see is the sun remaining the same size, but disappearing little by little over the horizon.

Correct - But when sun light has gone this means that the sun has moved in the sky to light up another part of the earth, as I explained in my post. We never see this as the sun has moved so far off, out of line of view.
This is the reason for our night & days.
The sun may go down & rise, but the sun never goes anywhere, it is always there doing his circuit of the sky, causing our night and days.

prodromos · 2026-02-19T06:12:11-0600

Apple Sky said:
Correct - But when sun light has gone this means that the sun has moved in the sky to light up another part of the earth, as I explained in my post. We never see this as the sun has moved so far off, out of line of view.

I've already shown why that doesn't work through simple trigonometry. In the flat earth model, the sun would be 20° above the horizon at sunrise and sunset.

Apple Sky said:
This is the reason for our night & days.
The sun may go down & rise, but the sun never goes anywhere, it is always there doing his circuit of the sky, causing our night and days.

This is just you repeating the nonsense flat earth claims that are falsified by every observation.

David Lamb · 2026-02-19T06:19:03-0600

Apple Sky said:
Correct - But when sun light has gone this means that the sun has moved in the sky to light up another part of the earth, as I explained in my post. We never see this as the sun has moved so far off, out of line of view.
This is the reason for our night & days.
The sun may go down & rise, but the sun never goes anywhere, it is always there doing his circuit of the sky, causing our night and days.

So why, on a flat earth, would the sun still appear to be the same size, and gradually disappear below the horizon? I agree that the sun is still in the sky - the part of the sky that is beyond the horizon. That is exactly what one would expect on a globe earth.

Apple Sky · 2026-02-19T06:36:44-0600

David Lamb said:
So why, on a flat earth, would the sun still appear to be the same size, and gradually disappear below the horizon?

Because that is what the sun is, always the same size, it doesn't disappear over the horizon it's just moved further away to another part of the earth too either give sunrise or sunset.

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