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Isaiah 56 proves that EVEN the OT scope for Sabbath was for all mankind, Israel and gentiles
Christ is the second person of the Godhead. John 1 says He is the Creator , just as Col 1 also affirms.
You simply refuse to admit Exodus 24:3-4. You don’t think that it’s completely absurd that the very words of the covenant wouldn’t be written in the book of the covenant? The only reason you refuse to admit that the 10 commandments were written in the book of the covenant is because you don’t want to lose your precious escape route from accepting Colossians 2:16 for what it actually says. There’s no other reason to make that claim that the 10 weren’t written in the book of the covenant. Moses literally wrote down every commandment God had given in the book of the covenant that’s why it’s mentioned so many times about him writing in the book of the covenant. It’s literally called the book of the covenant and yet the very words of the covenant that included the very sign of the covenant isn’t written in it? That just absolutely preposterous. The people made an oath to do all that the Lord had spoken EXCEPT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS THAT WERE THE VERY WORDS OF THE COVENANT THAT INCLUDED THE SIGN OF THE COVENANT? This is precisely why I continue to have this discussion, to allow you to make the most ridiculous claims allowing you to completely discredit yourself so much that nobody can believe what you’re teaching.
No.
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That’s not what Isaiah 56 says at all. Isaiah 56 doesn’t say anything about before Mt Sinai or even at Mt Sinai, it’s referring to future events not past events.
They were told not to do any work on the sabbath, they had to define what was considered to be work. The word “work” itself is subjective, so yes they had to write laws defining what was considered to be work and in doing so they took it too far which resulted in the sabbaths becoming a burden against man which is why they were removed along with all of the appointed times.
Isaiah 56 specifically singles out gentiles for Sabbath observance
Christ is the one referencing "before Sinai" when He speaks of the making of BOTH mankind AND the Sabbath
It speaks to the gentiles presently in existence at the time .. IT does not say "some day in the future I will bless those gentiles the keep Sabbath"
The passage clearly reads that He disarmed the rulers and authorities by making a spectacle of them,THEREFORE
They made stuff up about picking up a blade of grass. Christ condemned the stuff they were making up in Mark 7.
In Mark 7 they were making stuff up about sin getting on food in the market place if a gentile touched the food , so one's hands would need to be ceremonially baptized from sin before eating the food, else sin would enter the body.
Indeed but in Mark 7 Jesus specifically points to their corruption of "Honor your father and mother".
Not one of God's commandments were ever said to be removed / deleted / downsized because man tried to corrupt them.
true.
Acknowledging Christ as Lord and Savior is not the basis for deleting His Word, His own Commandments.
Col 2 points to the work of Christ in paying our debt of sin "cancelling the CERTIFICATE OF DEBT that was against us".
I guess that means that Jacob won’t be in the New Earth then.
Yeah I agree, what’s your point? It was also Christ who gave Moses the handwritten ordinances, wasn’t it? And what exactly followed the word THEREFORE after verse 15?
There will always be division in the church where there shouldn't be any.
Who is judging who about not keeping the Sabbath that's your business. And I haven't read any thread on any site where none Sabbath keepers are being judged. What I read is disagreements on whether the Sabbath day as well as the Ten Commandments are to be obeyed and which day it is.Let me turn this on you. Where in scripture does it teach that the Christian is required to keep the sabbath? Christ nailed the law to the cross (Col. 2:14). The law is the Mosaic law which includes the 10 commandments. Jesus repeated all commandments into His two commandments except the 4th commandment of which He became the Lord of even the sabbath.
Acts 11:26. Acts was written by Luke around 40-42ad which is only a mere 7-9 years after the resurrection.
No. This you can not argue because the word used here is sabbaton which is defined as follows.
Strong’s Definitions
σάββατον sábbaton, sab'-bat-on; of Hebrew origin (H7676); the Sabbath (i.e. Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension, a se'nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications:—sabbath (day), week.
You can’t arbitrarily choose only a portion of the definition. Also the context supports the seventh day sabbath.
He sure did and so did the rest of the apostles. The nice thing is that Paul tells us why.
“To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are under the Law;”
1 Corinthians 9:20 NASB2020
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To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might gain Jews; to those who are under the Law, I became as one under the Law, though not being under the Law myself, so that I might gain those who are underbible.com
That’s true,
So prove it. The Mosaic law was not given until Moses in the 15th century BCE. Before that no one was given the law including Adam, Noah, or even Abraham. God is always involved in His creation so the law in place before Noah was the providential law. During Noah God gave Noah the Noahic law.
So if you are going to argue that the Mosaic law was in effect during Abraham you are going to have to cite some evidence since scripture is silent to that effect.
But which commandments, statutes, and laws?
James is talking about sanctification not about justification. All born again Christians do works. Paul tells us exactly how our works are judged.
“According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If anyone’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire.”
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 NASB2020
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 (NASB2020) - According to the grace of God which | YouVersion
According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one canbible.com
No. I totally disagree. The sabbath has not been “abolished” that is a Strawman. The sabbath has been fulfilled by Jesus sacrifice in the cross. The Christian sabbath rest is in Christ not in a day. “Today” He sets another day (Heb. 4).
I commend you for it. As I stated in my OP my issue is not with keeping the sabbath but with those that judge others for not keeping the Saturday sabbath. This is an extremely legalistic belief and cheapens Christ sacrifice on the cross.
Be blessed.
