THE SPECTACULAR BLESSING OF AUTHENTIC SPEAKING IN TONGUES

I actually have heard of this "Speaking in tongues" thing. I think it is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that He gives to born-again people.

Don't the Pentecostals or Charismatics believe in this? In my church its not really believed in all that much. But, then again, its an Independent Baptist church. Are we wrong?

Berserk said:

RULES FOR DISCERNING WHETHER YOUR PRAYER TONGUES ARE AUTHENTIC

(1) To avoid making tongues a fetish seek the Giver, not the gift.

(2) Don't pray with a prompter who urges your to just speak it out. Such a prompter is just promoting the flesh.

(3) As you start to feel the sweetness of the Spirit's pressence, get lost in praise.

in other words, feaswt on the Lord's presence in such a way that you are not controlling your flow of thought, but are spontaneouisly just listening to your heartfelt gush of praise.

(4) When the tongues just explode from your lips without any control, here is the test of aothenticity: the real thing will fill you with wave after wave of liquid love, each wave sweeter and more intense than the last. And God will seem more real than you have ever experienced.

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There is not a more authentic gift of tongues in scripture.

The gift of tongues is one of the Spiritual gifts given to us by The Holy Spirit when we are subsequently filled with Him after being born again. It normally operates by our human spirit when we step out in personal faith, but at times The Holy Spirit can sort prompt us and take over and operate the gift through us for those purposes that GOD has need in prayer. That sort of moment can be more powerful and uplifting, and can last for a nice extended time, but it is not the norm for us, or more authentic.

My ministry from Jesus is prayer, and He has had me using this gift for Him since the early nineties.

JacquelineDeane55 said:

I actually have heard of this "Speaking in tongues" thing. I think it is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that He gives to born-again people.

Don't the Pentecostals or Charismatics believe in this? In my church its not really believed in all that much. But, then again, its an Independent Baptist church. Are we wrong?

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Rather than say who is right or who is wrong, I would suggest that you pursue Jesus about the filling of The Holy Spirit in prayer.

Back when I had just been born again, I sought information on the gifts from various books and such that I could find about them, but only ended up confused even more. None of the material out there really helped me, so I finally just went to The Lord in prayer and told Him that I couldn't understand what the gift of tongues was, but if this was something that He wanted me to have, that He would need to help me receive it because I didn't know how to,..... .and boy did He!

It's not the gifts that you need, it is the giver of the gifts, The Holy Spirit, that you need inside.

Hope that helps.

Berserk said:

RULES FOR DISCERNING WHETHER YOUR PRAYER TONGUES ARE AUTHENTIC

(1) To avoid making tongues a fetish seek the Giver, not the gift.

(2) Don't pray with a prompter who urges your to just speak it out. Such a prompter is just promoting the flesh.

(3) As you start to feel the sweetness of the Spirit's pressence, get lost in praise.

in other words, feaswt on the Lord's presence in such a way that you are not controlling your flow of thought, but are spontaneouisly just listening to your heartfelt gush of praise.

(4) When the tongues just explode from your lips without any control, here is the test of aothenticity: the real thing will fill you with wave after wave of liquid love, each wave sweeter and more intense than the last. And God will seem more real than you have ever experienced.

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Interpretation?

Maria Billingsley said:

Interpretation?

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What is your question?

ARBITER01 said:

What is your question?

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Interpretation? .....Is it not also a requirement for authenticity?

Maria Billingsley said:

Interpretation? .....Is it not also a requirement for authenticity?

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The gift of the interpretation of tongues only comes into play when The Holy Spirit is operating the gift of tongues in the corporate assembly, ie the speaking portion of the gift of tongues. When we are operating the gift for prayer, that is a personal use that doesn't require interpretation.

He's talking about the personal use not the corporate use.

ARBITER01 said:

The gift of the interpretation of tongues only comes into play when The Holy Spirit is operating the gift of tongues in the corporate assembly, ie the speaking portion of the gift of tongues. When we are operating the gift for prayer, that is a personal use that doesn't require interpretation.

He's talking about the personal use not the corporate use.

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Yes, which is self edification.
Thanks for sharing.

Berserk said:

I am a retired United Methdist minister. My succcessor, Rev. Dave, told me he once spoke in tongues in fluent Korean in a prayer meeting, as confirmed by a Korean member present.

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Prayer group, corporate type setting, gift of interpretation was activated by The Holy Spirit in that person.

Berserk said:

In a Sasatchewan Pentecostal church, a message in tongues in fluent Swahili was given, as interpreted by the pastor's wife. An African immmigrant present confirmed the message in his native language. The message assured the pastor's wife that her missionary daughter in Africa had sucessfully escaped a life-threatening danger and would soon arrive home safetly.

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Past or current events in a human language, word of knowledge was spoken by The Holy Spirit.


Understanding the gifts of The Spirit helps us not jumble them all together. Each one has purposes that are different from the others.

Let's look at scripture,...


1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in a tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God; for no man understandeth; but by The Spirit he speaketh mysteries.


Looking at this section,... the gift of tongues is never understood apart from the gift of interpretation. If a person hears and understands your prayer tongue, it is because the gift of interpretation was activated by The Holy Spirit. In your example, this is the more personal use of the gift of interpretation that is somewhat rare with the use of the prayer tongue. That operation of the gift can confuse people into thinking that the person actually spoke in that language. It normally happens as the prayer tongue is spoken at the same time, not as a separate message like what is normally seen in the corporate setting.

In your second instance, specific information was "revealed" to individuals in human languages, that rules out the gift of tongues or interpretation. Since it was specific to current events, it was not the word of wisdom, but the word of knowledge spoken by The Holy Spirit.

It was a revelation gift that was operated by The Holy Spirit. We don't talk to one another in tongues.

It is a Commandment of Jesus Christ ..Joh 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him MUST worship [him] in SPIRIT and in TRUTH...

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth : THY WORD IS TRUTH.

So according to the word..

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my, SPIRIT PRAYETH but my understanding is unfruitful.

Go to your coset ,private place is where to pray, but
in the church (people not a building) used only to confirm you are CHRISTIAN Gods way !
..not all to pray with the spirit only max 3 corresponding interpretation, then 2 or 3 gifts of prophecy all done decent and in order !
this is how a church is run..

Mark 16:17 And THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW THEM THAT "BELIEVE"; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

claim to be a believer ..then you have these (all) or you do it mans way not Gods !

because natural man cant grasp the truth of this eg..if they drink any deadly..and they shall take up serpents..What did Jesus call the religious types of his time..Mat 23..snakes ! etc for religious types are speaking lies, deciet, "spirit poison",against the truth ;not going in themselves and mudding the waters for those who try to find the truth.

the blind lead the blind...

acts 2:4...Mary the biological mother of Jesus and about 119 others all recieved the SPIRIT with the evidence of speaking in TONGUES ,and natural man thought it was different languages but later thought it was babble and they were drumk..no idea.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments...this is one!

There's a "diversities of tongues" II Cor 12:28). Purposes for speaking in tongues includes:

-Personal prayer language - Speaking to/with God (I Cor 14:4)
-Intercessory prayer language - Praying for others in the Spirit (Rom 8:26-27).
-Warfare language - Tongues directly aimed at demonic strongholds (Eph 6:18-19)
-Prophetic language - Addressing the whole church/preferably with interpretation - (I Cor 12:10; 14:5, 26)
-Singing in the Spirit - Singing in tongues/worship activity (I Cor 14:14-15)
-Praise language - Magnifying the Lord in worship tongues (Acts 2:4-11, 10)
(Saint Steven, a CF poster, gave permission to use his basic list).