The Great Pyramid's Precise Pinpointing of Jesus

ChrisKing · Feb 1, 2026

David Lamb said:
Thanks. No, I don't think that God revels Himself through the geometry of the pyramids. Apart from anything else, it presupposes that we know the exact place in Bethlehem where Jesus was born - we don't. The `so-called "Church of the Nativity" was only built over 300 years after Jesus was born. The other thing is that you say rightly that creation bears witness, but the pyramids are not part of Creation, (though of course they, like everything else man-made, were built from created materials).

Dear David,

You're raising two fair and important points: the historical certainty of Jesus's exact birthplace and the distinction between creation and man-made structures. Let me address them directly, drawing from reliable sources.

On the birthplace: You're correct that we don't have a video or eyewitness affidavit from 4 BC pinpointing the spot to the meter. However, the Church of the Nativity's grotto is not a 4th-century invention with no prior tradition. The site was venerated as Jesus's birthplace long before Constantine's church was built in 326–339 AD. Early Christian sources and archaeology support continuity:

Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD, Dialogue with Trypho 78) refers to Jesus being born in a cave in Bethlehem, consistent with the grotto tradition.
Origen (c. 248 AD, Contra Celsum 1.51) explicitly mentions the cave in Bethlehem where Jesus was born, visited by Christians in his time.
The Roman Emperor Hadrian (135 AD) tried to suppress Jewish/Christian sites in Bethlehem by building a temple to Adonis over the grotto—indicating the location was already known and revered by Christians/Jews in the early 2nd century (Eusebius, Life of Constantine 3.41–43).
A 2024 CBN News article ("The Church of the Nativity: Do We Really Know Where Christ Was Born?" The Church of the Nativity: Do We Really Know Where Christ Was Born? by Chris Mitchell) summarizes archaeological and historical consensus: the grotto was identified by mid-1st-century Christians, preserved through oral tradition (e.g., Mary living in Jerusalem with John post-crucifixion could have shared the exact spot), and marked by the silver star under the church altar. Scholars like Stephen Pfann and Jerome (c. 386 AD) confirm its fame even among non-Christians.

So while absolute proof to the centimeter is impossible, the site's identification has strong early attestation—far earlier than the church building itself. The pyramid's line bisecting this specific, traditionally accepted spot (within 99.98% of Petrie's measured angle) is still remarkable.

On creation vs. man-made: You're right—the pyramids are human constructions, built from created materials (stone, mortar). They aren't "creation" in the Romans 1:20 sense (natural world revealing God's invisible attributes). However, Scripture shows God can use human works as witnesses or signs without them being inherently divine:

Isaiah 19:19 explicitly mentions a "monument/pillar to the Lord" in Egypt—human-built, yet God-ordained as a sign.
Jeremiah 32:20 speaks of God's "signs and wonders in Egypt" that endure, implying lasting human artifacts can testify to Him.
The Tabernacle/Temple were man-made but divinely instructed (Exodus 25–31, 1 Kings 6–8) to point to God's presence and redemption.

If God guided the pyramid's builders (as He guided Bezalel in Exodus 31:1–6), the structure could serve as a signpost without being "creation" itself. The precision (observed slope 26° 26' 42" ±20 arcseconds projecting to Bethlehem at 99.98%, Moon ÷8 at 99.92%, 8-sided design, YHWH=26 repeat, lunar month encoding [Schmitz 2012, 99.76%], equinox-Easter tie) converges on Jesus's birthplace and resurrection symbol with quintillions-to-one odds against chance. This isn't numerology—it's measurable geometry in a human artifact echoing divine themes.

I'm not saying the pyramid replaces Scripture or is necessary to believe in Christ. Scripture is sufficient. But if creation (including human works guided by God) can "declare His glory" (Ps 19:1), perhaps this is one way God has spoken universally—inviting scrutiny of the evidence.Verify yourself: Google Earth

What do you think—could God use a human-built monument as a sign in the way Isaiah describes, without it competing with Scripture?

Peace,
Chris
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David Lamb · Feb 1, 2026

ChrisKing said:
Dear David,

You're raising two fair and important points: the historical certainty of Jesus's exact birthplace and the distinction between creation and man-made structures. Let me address them directly, drawing from reliable sources.

On the birthplace: You're correct that we don't have a video or eyewitness affidavit from 4 BC pinpointing the spot to the meter. However, the Church of the Nativity's grotto is not a 4th-century invention with no prior tradition. The site was venerated as Jesus's birthplace long before Constantine's church was built in 326–339 AD. Early Christian sources and archaeology support continuity:

Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD, Dialogue with Trypho 78) refers to Jesus being born in a cave in Bethlehem, consistent with the grotto tradition.

Origen (c. 248 AD, Contra Celsum 1.51) explicitly mentions the cave in Bethlehem where Jesus was born, visited by Christians in his time.

The Roman Emperor Hadrian (135 AD) tried to suppress Jewish/Christian sites in Bethlehem by building a temple to Adonis over the grotto—indicating the location was already known and revered by Christians/Jews in the early 2nd century (Eusebius, Life of Constantine 3.41–43).

A 2024 CBN News article ("The Church of the Nativity: Do We Really Know Where Christ Was Born?" The Church of the Nativity: Do We Really Know Where Christ Was Born? by Chris Mitchell) summarizes archaeological and historical consensus: the grotto was identified by mid-1st-century Christians, preserved through oral tradition (e.g., Mary living in Jerusalem with John post-crucifixion could have shared the exact spot), and marked by the silver star under the church altar. Scholars like Stephen Pfann and Jerome (c. 386 AD) confirm its fame even among non-Christians.

So while absolute proof to the centimeter is impossible, the site's identification has strong early attestation—far earlier than the church building itself. The pyramid's line bisecting this specific, traditionally accepted spot (within 99.98% of Petrie's measured angle) is still remarkable.

On creation vs. man-made: You're right—the pyramids are human constructions, built from created materials (stone, mortar). They aren't "creation" in the Romans 1:20 sense (natural world revealing God's invisible attributes). However, Scripture shows God can use human works as witnesses or signs without them being inherently divine:

Isaiah 19:19 explicitly mentions a "monument/pillar to the Lord" in Egypt—human-built, yet God-ordained as a sign.

Jeremiah 32:20 speaks of God's "signs and wonders in Egypt" that endure, implying lasting human artifacts can testify to Him.

The Tabernacle/Temple were man-made but divinely instructed (Exodus 25–31, 1 Kings 6–8) to point to God's presence and redemption.

If God guided the pyramid's builders (as He guided Bezalel in Exodus 31:1–6), the structure could serve as a signpost without being "creation" itself. The precision (observed slope 26° 26' 42" ±20 arcseconds projecting to Bethlehem at 99.98%, Moon ÷8 at 99.92%, 8-sided design, YHWH=26 repeat, lunar month encoding [Schmitz 2012, 99.76%], equinox-Easter tie) converges on Jesus's birthplace and resurrection symbol with quintillions-to-one odds against chance. This isn't numerology—it's measurable geometry in a human artifact echoing divine themes.

I'm not saying the pyramid replaces Scripture or is necessary to believe in Christ. Scripture is sufficient. But if creation (including human works guided by God) can "declare His glory" (Ps 19:1), perhaps this is one way God has spoken universally—inviting scrutiny of the evidence.Verify yourself: Google Earth

What do you think—could God use a human-built monument as a sign in the way Isaiah describes, without it competing with Scripture?

Peace,
Chris
Home | The Great Jesus Pyramid

Yes, I am sure there were traditions about the location of the nativity. The bible simply says that Jesus was placed in a manger, a feeding-trough for animals. There is no mention of a cave (or even a stable, come to that!)

I believe as you do that Scripture is sufficient, so why speculate on strange ideas like God leading the Egyptians to build their pyramids in a certain way?

Thanks anyway. I think I will leave the matter there.

DiscipleG3101 · Feb 1, 2026

Chris,
This website might be of interest to you.
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Bethlehem 31.68
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Lord Jesus Christ
κυριος Ιησους Χριστος
(Standard Greek)
3168

Adam's linage in Chronological Order
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Adam H120 אדם aw dam = 45
Seth H8352 שת shayth = 700
Enos H583 אנוש enohsh= 357
Cainan H7018 קינן qenan = 210
Mahalaleel H4111 מהללאל mahalalal= 136
Jared H3382 ירד yered = 214
Enoch H2585 חנוך hanok = 84
Methuselah H4968 מתושלח methoshehlakh= 784
Lamech H3929 למך Lemek = 90
Noah H5146 נח noah = 58
Japheth H3315 יפת yepet= 490

45 + 700 + 357 + 210 + 136 + 214 + 84 + 784 + 90 + 58 + 490 = 3168

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mathematical constants Pi, Phi, and E check out my lastest post:

anyone know anything about Gematria?

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ChrisKing · Feb 1, 2026

David Lamb said:
Yes, I am sure there were traditions about the location of the nativity. The bible simply says that Jesus was placed in a manger, a feeding-trough for animals. There is no mention of a cave (or even a stable, come to that!)

I believe as you do that Scripture is sufficient, so why speculate on strange ideas like God leading the Egyptians to build their pyramids in a certain way?

Thanks anyway. I think I will leave the matter tere.

Because this is Geometric proof of Divinity.... if the world knew they could be converted. Who could forge these connections over Millenia ? Only God. You have not thought it through.

David Lamb · Feb 2, 2026

ChrisKing said:
Because this is Geometric proof of Divinity.... if the world knew they could be converted. Who could forge these connections over Millenia ? Only God. You have not thought it through.

But this all falls at my first point, that apart from knowing that Jesus was born in a place in Bethlehem where there was an animal feeding-trough or manger, we have only traditions to give us the exact location. I certainly don't believe that knowledge of your notion would lead to conversion of the world. Conversion involves a new birth. Only God can do that.

ChrisKing · Feb 2, 2026

David Lamb said:
But this all falls at my first point, that apart from knowing that Jesus was born in a place in Bethlehem where there was an animal feeding-trough or manger, we have only traditions to give us the exact location. I certainly don't believe that knowledge of your notion would lead to conversion of the world. Conversion involves a new birth. Only God can do that.

The precise grotto location under the Church of the Nativity is based on early Christian tradition, not an explicit biblical verse. I don't claim this is "infallible proof" in the sense that it replaces Scripture or forces belief. Conversion is indeed a supernatural new birth (John 3:3–8)—only the Holy Spirit can regenerate a heart. No amount of geometry or evidence can accomplish that.

That said, even if the exact spot isn't spelled out in the text, the Church of the Nativity grotto is the place most Christians (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant) have accepted for nearly 2,000 years as the birthplace. And God, being omniscient, would know that. He would know the tradition would form, that Mary would live in Jerusalem after the crucifixion (John 19:26–27, tradition holds she stayed with John), and that she would have had ample time to show the exact location to the apostles, Jesus's brother James (who became a leader in the Jerusalem church), and other early believers.

Think about it practically: the grotto is a small cave—about the size of a bus. In such a confined space, Mary could easily remember and describe the precise spot where she gave birth. After the resurrection and ascension, she lived in Jerusalem (Acts 1:14 mentions Mary with the disciples). James (who only believed after seeing the risen Jesus, 1 Cor 15:7) became the leader of the Jerusalem church (Acts 15; Galatians 1:19). Early Christians venerated the site: Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD) refers to Jesus born in a Bethlehem cave; Origen (c. 248 AD) says the cave was still shown to visitors; Hadrian (135 AD) built a temple over it to suppress the tradition. By 326 AD, when Helena identified the site for Constantine's church, the location was already widely known and accepted among believers—not invented centuries later.

So while the Bible doesn't pinpoint the meter, the tradition has strong early roots, preserved by people who knew Mary and the family. God, knowing the future, would know this spot would become the recognized birthplace for the vast majority of Christians across history. If He wanted to place a signpost in creation that would be noticed when the time was right, using geometry (a universal language) to flag that specific, traditionally accepted location makes sense.

The alignments aren't about forcing conversion—they're about pointing curious minds to Jesus, the One who alone can bring new birth. The pyramid's fixed slope (Petrie 26° 26' 42" ±20 arcseconds) projecting eastward (equinox axis) hits the grotto at 99.98% accuracy; same line gives Moon Proof 8 (434.02 km ÷ 3474.8 km = 8 at 99.92%); pyramid only 8-sided; 8 = resurrection "eighth day." These converge with quintillions-to-one odds against chance, built millennia before Jesus.

It's a whisper in creation: "Look here." God knows tradition would preserve the spot, and He knows who will seek.

DiscipleG3101 · Feb 10, 2026

In the beginning
God created the heaven and the earth.
=================================================

The English phrase
In the beginning (Case Sensitive) appears
3 times in the King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Genesis 1:1 _ Jeremiah 26:1 _ Jeremiah 27:1
11 + 261 + 271 = 543

In the beginning God created heaven and earth.
Plain English Standard = 345

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345 + 543 = 888
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Jesus G2424 Ιησους (Standard Greek) = 888

Bk 19 Psalm 8:3 - 4
When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon
and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that
thou art mindful of him? and the son of man,
that thou visitest him?
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198 + 3 + 4 = 205

Jesus Christ Ιησους Χριστος (Greek Ordinal) 205

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2424 × 205 = 496,920 = 496+920 = 1,416 = 1+416 = 417
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The English phrase
the Lord God appears precisely 471 times
in the King James 1769 Old Testament (Verify Here)!

471 + 417 = 888
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Jesus

John 4:10
If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee,
Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he
would have given thee living water.

the Gift of God την δωρεαν του θεου (Original Text) = 2572
the Gift of God την δωρεαν του θεου (Greek Ordinal) = 205
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2572 + 205 = 2777
2572 – 205 = 2367
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2777 – 2367 = 410

Bk 23 Isaiah 45:22
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the
earth: for I am God (H410 el), and there is none else.
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2345 + 22 = 2367

The English words
Look _ unto me appear exactly 688 times
in the Entire King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!
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Jesus G2424 Ιησου (Matthew 1:1) = 688

Bk 4 John 1:1
In the beginning was (Jesus) the Word,
and the Word (Jesus) was with God,
and (Jesus) the Word was God.
(Original Greek Text)
3627

3627 + 2367 = 5,994 = 5 + 994 = 999
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In the beginning God בראשית אלהים (Gen 1:1) = 999

The English words
praise + Jesus appear precisely 999 times
in the King James 1769 New Testament (Verify Here)!

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The Word of God is accurate and precise.
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David Lamb · Feb 11, 2026

DiscipleG3101 said:
In the beginning
God created the heaven and the earth.
=================================================

The English phrase
In the beginning (Case Sensitive) appears
3 times in the King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Genesis 1:1 _ Jeremiah 26:1 _ Jeremiah 27:1
11 + 261 + 271 = 543

In the beginning God created heaven and earth.
Plain English Standard = 345

----------------------------------------
345 + 543 = 888
----------------------------------------

Jesus G2424 Ιησους (Standard Greek) = 888

Bk 19 Psalm 8:3 - 4
When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon
and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that
thou art mindful of him? and the son of man,
that thou visitest him?
--------------------------------
198 + 3 + 4 = 205

Jesus Christ Ιησους Χριστος (Greek Ordinal) 205

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

2424 × 205 = 496,920 = 496+920 = 1,416 = 1+416 = 417
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The English phrase
the Lord God appears precisely 471 times
in the King James 1769 Old Testament (Verify Here)!

471 + 417 = 888
-----------------------
Jesus

John 4:10
If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee,
Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he
would have given thee living water.

the Gift of God την δωρεαν του θεου (Original Text) = 2572
the Gift of God την δωρεαν του θεου (Greek Ordinal) = 205
----------------------------------
2572 + 205 = 2777
2572 – 205 = 2367
-----------------------------

2777 – 2367 = 410

Bk 23 Isaiah 45:22
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the
earth: for I am God (H410 el), and there is none else.
------------------------
2345 + 22 = 2367

The English words
Look _ unto me appear exactly 688 times
in the Entire King James 1769 Bible (Verify Here)!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jesus G2424 Ιησου (Matthew 1:1) = 688

Bk 4 John 1:1
In the beginning was (Jesus) the Word,
and the Word (Jesus) was with God,
and (Jesus) the Word was God.
(Original Greek Text)
3627

3627 + 2367 = 5,994 = 5 + 994 = 999
-------------------------------------------------------------
In the beginning God בראשית אלהים (Gen 1:1) = 999

The English words
praise + Jesus appear precisely 999 times
in the King James 1769 New Testament (Verify Here)!

------------------------------------------------------
The Word of God is accurate and precise.
------------------------------------------------------

But chapters and verses were not originally part of the bible, so using verse and chapter numbers to interpret Scripture can't be right. I understand that chapters were added in about 1227, and verses in the mid 1500s.

DiscipleG3101 · Feb 11, 2026

Doubting Thomas
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John 20:25
The other disciples therefore said unto (doubting) Thomas,
We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his
hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails,
and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

print of the nails (English Standard) 888
nails (Original Greek Text) ἥλων = 888
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Jesus G2424 Ιησους (Matthew 1:16) = 888

888 + 888 = 1776

Jesus is the logos\Word
G2424 G2076 G3056
Ιησους εστι λογος
Greek Standard
1776

1 + 776
777

Even the hairs on your head are all numbered!
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Every word of God is pure

When I consider thy heavens (Orderly Arrangement), the work of thy fingers,
the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that
thou art mindful of him? and the son of man,
that thou visitest him?

Ordained H3559

Jesus Christ
Ιησου Χριστου
(Standard Greek)
2368

Bk 23 Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens
alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
2344 + 24 = 2368

Bk 23 Isaiah 66:2
For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been,
saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor
and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
2366 + 2 = 2368

ChrisKing · Feb 11, 2026

DiscipleG3101 said:
Doubting Thomas
--------------------

John 20:25
The other disciples therefore said unto (doubting) Thomas,
We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his
hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails,
and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

print of the nails (English Standard) 888
nails (Original Greek Text) ἥλων = 888
----------------------------------------------
Jesus G2424 Ιησους (Matthew 1:16) = 888

888 + 888 = 1776

Jesus is the logos\Word
G2424 G2076 G3056
Ιησους εστι λογος
Greek Standard
1776

1 + 776
777

Even the hairs on your head are all numbered!
----------------------------------------------
Every word of God is pure

View attachment 376401

When I consider thy heavens (Orderly Arrangement), the work of thy fingers,
the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; What is man, that
thou art mindful of him? and the son of man,
that thou visitest him?

Ordained H3559
View attachment 376402

Jesus Christ
Ιησου Χριστου
(Standard Greek)
2368

Bk 23 Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens
alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
2344 + 24 = 2368

Bk 23 Isaiah 66:2
For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been,
saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor
and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
2366 + 2 = 2368

Yes the people who wrote the Bible knew the importance of numbers but by themselves they do not prove divinity. My geometric proof does as no human or other intelligence could pinpoint our most influential man using our most important monument over 2500 years ... thats what my proof does. I do not see what you hope to achieve by mudying the waters with all these other relationships....???
As previously mentioned and as I reiterate on https://www.academia.edu/s/b2963bae1aa paper in Academia.edu this is revolutionary :

First Ever Math Proof of God in the Great Pyramid? Still Waiting for Someone to Debunk Me

An invitation to join Chris H King's Discussion on Academia.edu.

www.academia.edu

The Great Pyramid points to Jesus.... can be measured in any way you want and the slope is precise. the distance is a ratio of the Moon's diameter etc. etc.
Why don't you focus on this since this has a chance of changing the world? Or at least comment on it.... Your maths relationships are totally off topic. Start your own thread please or stick to the discussion at hand.

Sincerely,

Chris

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