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Diabetic woman detained by ICE at green card interview; had no access to insulin for four days; somebody uses her credit card

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And in the end her deportation case was dismissed, and she has legal status to remain in the country.

Woman detained by ICE after Hawaiʻi visit shares experience online, draws millions of views

“We had no idea what was coming. We thought I would get my green card that day. We had no reason to believe otherwise,” Engan said. “At the end of the interview… she just looks at me, and she says, ‘There’s some agents outside that wants to talk to you,’ and then they just come in with vests and guns and they say they’re here to arrest me.”

She said she did not see a doctor until the fourth day [of 9 spent detained] and experienced severe symptoms.

“My blood sugar went over 500 which is really dangerous,” Engan said, adding that she lost 10 pounds during her detention and felt weak when she was released.

Engan also alleges her personal belongings were misused while she was detained. She said a credit card inside her purse was used while she was still in custody and provided what she described as an affidavit of fraud documenting the dates of the transactions.
 

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And in the end her deportation case was dismissed, and she has legal status to remain in the country.

Woman detained by ICE after Hawaiʻi visit shares experience online, draws millions of views

“We had no idea what was coming. We thought I would get my green card that day. We had no reason to believe otherwise,” Engan said. “At the end of the interview… she just looks at me, and she says, ‘There’s some agents outside that wants to talk to you,’ and then they just come in with vests and guns and they say they’re here to arrest me.”

She said she did not see a doctor until the fourth day [of 9 spent detained] and experienced severe symptoms.

“My blood sugar went over 500 which is really dangerous,” Engan said, adding that she lost 10 pounds during her detention and felt weak when she was released.

Engan also alleges her personal belongings were misused while she was detained. She said a credit card inside her purse was used while she was still in custody and provided what she described as an affidavit of fraud documenting the dates of the transactions.
That is horrible.
This is a black mark against America.
 
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And in the end her deportation case was dismissed, and she has legal status to remain in the country.

Woman detained by ICE after Hawaiʻi visit shares experience online, draws millions of views

“We had no idea what was coming. We thought I would get my green card that day. We had no reason to believe otherwise,” Engan said. “At the end of the interview… she just looks at me, and she says, ‘There’s some agents outside that wants to talk to you,’ and then they just come in with vests and guns and they say they’re here to arrest me.”

She said she did not see a doctor until the fourth day [of 9 spent detained] and experienced severe symptoms.

“My blood sugar went over 500 which is really dangerous,” Engan said, adding that she lost 10 pounds during her detention and felt weak when she was released.

Engan also alleges her personal belongings were misused while she was detained. She said a credit card inside her purse was used while she was still in custody and provided what she described as an affidavit of fraud documenting the dates of the transactions.
So she says.
 
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And in the end her deportation case was dismissed, and she has legal status to remain in the country.

Woman detained by ICE after Hawaiʻi visit shares experience online, draws millions of views

“We had no idea what was coming. We thought I would get my green card that day. We had no reason to believe otherwise,” Engan said. “At the end of the interview… she just looks at me, and she says, ‘There’s some agents outside that wants to talk to you,’ and then they just come in with vests and guns and they say they’re here to arrest me.”

She said she did not see a doctor until the fourth day [of 9 spent detained] and experienced severe symptoms.

“My blood sugar went over 500 which is really dangerous,” Engan said, adding that she lost 10 pounds during her detention and felt weak when she was released.

Engan also alleges her personal belongings were misused while she was detained. She said a credit card inside her purse was used while she was still in custody and provided what she described as an affidavit of fraud documenting the dates of the transactions.
Awe, poor poor lady. Goo-goo, ga-ga.
 
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Awe, poor poor lady. Goo-goo, ga-ga.
Haha, she didn’t have the wisdom to be born in the “correct” country, (sucks to be her!*)

*this is the extent of the “empathy”, one guesses.
 
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You should read what some Christians are saying about empathy. You'd love it the most. :oldthumbsup:
Let's try this story out!

Teen who called for dad's release from ICE custody dies of cancer

Ofelia Torres, 16, was battling stage 4 cancer.

In the "Nightline" interview last fall, Torres said she initially tried to keep her cancer diagnosis private, but said she was speaking out to defend her father.

"I need the world to know my dad's story and if that means letting the world know I have cancer, so be it. I don't care," she said. "I need my dad."

A representative for Torres' family said that just three days before she died, an immigration judge ruled that her father was conditionally entitled to receive cancellation of removal, which could provide a pathway to a green card.

In the "Nightline" interview Torres said that despite how her father was treated, she had "nothing but love" for the federal agents who arrested her father.

Love for them?!? What kind of Bolshevik talk is that?
 
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Let's try this story out!

Teen who called for dad's release from ICE custody dies of cancer

Ofelia Torres, 16, was battling stage 4 cancer.

In the "Nightline" interview last fall, Torres said she initially tried to keep her cancer diagnosis private, but said she was speaking out to defend her father.

"I need the world to know my dad's story and if that means letting the world know I have cancer, so be it. I don't care," she said. "I need my dad."

A representative for Torres' family said that just three days before she died, an immigration judge ruled that her father was conditionally entitled to receive cancellation of removal, which could provide a pathway to a green card.

In the "Nightline" interview Torres said that despite how her father was treated, she had "nothing but love" for the federal agents who arrested her father.

Love for them?!? What kind of Bolshevik talk is that?

We cannot allow any commie compassion to make headway. The next thing you know, we'll be feeding poor people and fixing bad roads. Also, I hate this timeline. :disappointed:
 
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We cannot allow any commie compassion to make headway. The next thing you know, we'll be feeding poor people and fixing bad roads. Also, I hate this timeline. :disappointed:
We're not the ones who are the commies. Imitation compassion, the kind made up of empty words, is just fake. In the meantime, stealing money from the poor using government? That's monstrous.
 
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We're not the ones who are the commies. Imitation compassion, the kind made up of empty words, is just fake. In the meantime, stealing money from the poor using government? That's monstrous.

Imitation compassion? How hard is it to feel compassion for a 16 yo who dies wanting her dad? Asking for a friend.
 
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Imitation compassion? How hard is it to feel compassion for a 16 yo who dies wanting her dad? Asking for a friend.
Im not reading that post. And for the record, I didn't even read the OP, and Im not going to. You call that putting my head in the sand? I call it accomplishing a mission!
 
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If you only knew how bad my life is right now, maybe you wouldn't say that. I don't even know if I want to live much longer.

In the meantime, my country does nothing for me, so the poor-poor lady can buzz off. In fact, I can't stand most women to begin with... That's why instead of holding the door for them, I slam it on them. I also race them to line, so they can't get in front of me.
Yeah, that happened.
 
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