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Bold move dodging a question that should have had a simple answer.
I provided a simple answer. The only people dodging the question are those being asked what is a 'man' or 'woman.' Why? Because their ideology prevents them from doing so.
 
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Are women included or excluded in "all men are created equal"?
All men are created equal. Women are different, but ontologically equal to men in that they are still created in the image of God. I am sure you will agree.
 
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I provided a simple answer. The only people dodging the question are those being asked what is a 'man' or 'woman.' Why? Because their ideology prevents them from doing so.
Or more like we realize it’s you going off topic from the thread because you have nothing of relevance to contribute, so we aren’t indulging you in your pointless tangent.
 
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All men are created equal. Women are different, but ontologically equal to men in that they are still created in the image of God. I am sure you will agree.
And there it is.

Gross.
 
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All men are created equal. Women are different, but ontologically equal to men in that they are still created in the image of God. I am sure you will agree.
We tired “separate but equal” once before, and it didn‘t work very well that time either.
 
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Dogs are better than people.

I give my dog the first bite of every meal, because she's better than me, and she only lives 12-14 years, which is unfair.
I one day aspire to be as good as my dogs think I am.
 
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We tired “separate but equal” once before, and it didn‘t work very well that time either.
I never said men and women are separate separate but equal, although that is true. I said that men and women are different but equal. Both with roles that are equal in importance, but different. That is a fact of a place called reality.
 
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Or more like we realize it’s you going off topic from the thread because you have nothing of relevance to contribute, so we aren’t indulging you in your pointless tangent.
Well, it people don't make off-topic, nonsensical comments, they will not receive off-topic responses.
 
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And there it is.

Gross.
Yes, for some, facts seem gross. Are you really trying to argue the fact that men and women are different although ontologically equal?
 
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Well, it people don't make off-topic, nonsensical comments, they will not receive off-topic responses.
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Yes, for some, facts seem gross. Are you really trying to argue the fact that men and women are different although ontologically equal?
Men and women are equal in the context given.

See? That’s not hard.

Now, stop derailing and stick to the topic at hand… Unless, of course, you have nothing of value to add, at which point just concede as much and stop derailing.
 
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All men are created equal. Women are different, but ontologically equal to men in that they are still created in the image of God. I am sure you will agree.
What does the qualifier ontologically mean in this case? Expressed differently, what does it mean to be created in the image of God, and why does that confer some kind of ontological status (what ever that is)? What would it mean to be ontologically non-equal? Or non-ontologically equal or non-ontologically non-equal?
 
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Yes, for some, facts seem gross. Are you really trying to argue the fact that men and women are different although ontologically equal?
So this would seem to say that women are included in the phrase "all men are created equal" if only ontologically.
 
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Men and women are equal in the context given.

See? That’s not hard.

Now, stop derailing and stick to the topic at hand… Unless, of course, you have nothing of value to add, at which point just concede as much and stop derailing.
You started it in post 60 with your sexist and racist comment about deporting all white men. Sweetie.
 
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You started it in post 60 with your sexist and racist comment about deporting all white men. Sweetie.
Oh, the gendered put downs, I must have really tweaked you.

It’s good to see you admit that your standards are racist. Self-awareness half the battle, so you’re well on your way to self-actualization.
 
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