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'Dawson's Creek' star James Van Der Beek dies at 48 after colorectal cancer battle

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I take a 81 mg aspirin every day, studies have shown that it helps prevent colon cancer
My two colonoscopies have returned “no-polyps” and I credit fermented/pickled foods, but it might just be luck of the (DNA) draw.
 
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My two colonoscopies have returned “no-polyps” and I credit fermented/pickled foods, but it might just be luck of the (DNA) draw.
The aspirin also helps prevent strokes and heart attacks by thinning the blood
 
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The aspirin also helps prevent strokes and heart attacks by thinning the blood
Aye, ‘umble aspirin is a “miracle” medicine and has been for well over a century, the 81mg dosage especially, since the enteric version doesn’t affect the stomach near as bad as the full “5 grain” stuff.
 
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I meant about being generally unhealthy. Cancer is a dice roll. You can affect the chances but it’s never a 100% some form of cancer won’t express in your cells.

That’s why it’s such an awful disease.
Obviously there's a genetic component and certain people get an unlucky dice roll no matter what they do...

But I still think it'd be worth them looking into potential links to overuse of antibiotics and the massive uptick in SSRI usage in young people that was happening in the 90's. (both of which have an impact on the gut biome)

The stat I referenced earlier, a person born in 1990 (statistically) has double the likelihood of getting colorectal cancers compared to their parents and grandparents, that's not insignificant, and can't be explained exclusively by changing diets or bad luck.

It's not as if human genetic lines magically changed that much in the transition phase from new-wave to grunge to make that many people more susceptible to bad luck or a few extra Big Macs.

There had to be some sort of outside catalyst that was introduced driving some of it.
 
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Obviously there's a genetic component and certain people get an unlucky dice roll no matter what they do...

But I still think it'd be worth them looking into potential links to overuse of antibiotics and the massive uptick in SSRI usage in young people that was happening in the 90's. (both of which have an impact on the gut biome)

The stat I referenced earlier, a person born in 1990 (statistically) has double the likelihood of getting colorectal cancers compared to their parents and grandparents, that's not insignificant, and can't be explained exclusively by changing diets or bad luck.

It's not as if human genetic lines magically changed that much in the transition phase from new-wave to grunge to make that many people more susceptible to bad luck or a few extra Big Macs.

There had to be some sort of outside catalyst that was introduced driving some of it.
Can you link me to the study you get that info from?
 
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Can you link me to the study you get that info from?
There's a few different links discussing it




 
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There's a few different links discussing it
Seems to suggest too much food and America’s financially toxic ‘health care’ system.
 
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Seems to suggest too much food and America’s financially toxic ‘health care’ system.
What!?

The richest Nation in the history of the Earth has a health care system with nineteenth century roots, but we don’t need to rely on that paradigm no more! (Excepting we got this Great Big Military Presence that we’ve used in the past to enforce “our will” and “defend friends” and we’re so unpopular that if we lessened our defense one iota, they’d bring us down like dogs. So to keep being the richest nation in the world, we’re just going to go with that.)

The fabulously rich are happy to provide the “goods and services” that we’re going to need needing, (as soon as they tell us what they are!).

Somebody’s going to remind folks that “money” is only “money” if we all agree that it is.
 
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Obviously there's a genetic component and certain people get an unlucky dice roll no matter what they do...

But I still think it'd be worth them looking into potential links to overuse of antibiotics and the massive uptick in SSRI usage in young people that was happening in the 90's. (both of which have an impact on the gut biome)

The stat I referenced earlier, a person born in 1990 (statistically) has double the likelihood of getting colorectal cancers compared to their parents and grandparents, that's not insignificant, and can't be explained exclusively by changing diets or bad luck.
SSRIs has been studied (Pubmed search search term: SSRI colorectal cancer), no one has reported an increase in risk. All but one report a protective effect (the one reports no effect)

1: Coogan PF, Strom BL, Rosenberg L. Antidepressant use and colorectal cancer
risk. Pharmacoepidemiol Drug Saf. 2009 Nov;18(11):1111-4. doi: 10.1002/pds.1808.
PMID: 19623565; PMCID: PMC2783290.

2: Lee HC, Chiu WC, Wang TN, Liao YT, Chien IC, Lee Y, McIntyre RS, Chen PC,
Chen VC. Antidepressants and colorectal cancer: A population-based nested case-
control study. J Affect Disord. 2017 Jan 1;207:353-358. doi:
10.1016/j.jad.2016.09.057. Epub 2016 Oct 1. PMID: 27744223.

3: Xu W, Tamim H, Shapiro S, Stang MR, Collet JP. Use of antidepressants and
risk of colorectal cancer: a nested case-control study. Lancet Oncol. 2006
Apr;7(4):301-8. doi: 10.1016/S1470-2045(06)70622-2. PMID: 16574545.

4: Lee HK, Eom CS, Kwon YM, Ahn JS, Kim S, Park SM. Meta-analysis: selective
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2012 Oct;24(10):1153-7. doi: 10.1097/MEG.0b013e328355e289. PMID: 22735609.

5: Zhang N, Sundquist J, Sundquist K, Ji J. Use of Selective Serotonin Reuptake
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PMID: 33661146

There were some results that focused more on potential mechanism instead of epidemiology. Please check that I didn't miss anything relevant.

This is of course provisional, future findings can change the picture. As it stands now it seems that SSRIs don't increase the risk of colorectal cancer.
It's not as if human genetic lines magically changed that much in the transition phase from new-wave to grunge to make that many people more susceptible to bad luck or a few extra Big Macs.

There had to be some sort of outside catalyst that was introduced driving some of it.
 
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My two colonoscopies have returned “no-polyps” and I credit fermented/pickled foods, but it might just be luck of the (DNA) draw.
Interesting that in Korea, where kimchi is BEYOND ubiquitous, their colorectal cancer rates are very vyer high....
 
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There were some results that focused more on potential mechanism instead of epidemiology. Please check that I didn't miss anything relevant.
I think that's where there's a research gap that needs to be investigated... That's why I mentioned in my initial post about that, that it's a potential causal link that's worth researching now that the kids who started getting prescribed that in the 90's are just now reaching the age where the early onset colorectal cancers would start showing up.

Most, if not all, of the studies that have been done thus far involve studying people who started on them as adults, and tracked their cancer outcomes.

From Stanford:
A few of the most common SSRIs are approved by the FDA for use in kids and teens, and others that are approved for use in adults are commonly prescribed off-label for adolescents.

Side effects of these medications in adolescents include weight gain, gastrointestinal issues, decreased libido and insomnia.


It wouldn't be the first class of drugs that has a very different impact on fully grown adults than it does to adolescents who are still developing.

Even something as common as aspirin, relatively benign in adults with minimal risks, but then they found there's a very different risk profile for teenagers.

 
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Interesting that in Korea, where kimchi is BEYOND ubiquitous, their colorectal cancer rates are very vyer high....
When you consider the world as a whole, diet doesn't seem to be the smoking gun (or at least not the only one)



The diets (and obesity levels) in Japan are far more favorable compared to the US by conventional nutrition wisdom. Yet they apparently have one of the highest per 100k rates in the world.

Their dietary staples include rice, fish, plenty of plant-based foods, and far lower saturated fat and red meat consumption than westernized diets have. On paper, their diets should be the preventative recommendation for reducing the risk of colon cancer by the conventional nutrition wisdom.

What even more interesting is when you look at that last column (from the WorldPopulationReview link) where it shows how it's currently trending. Our rates are on the decline, whereas, countries that you'd expect to be doing much better are on steep inclines.
 
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When you consider the world as a whole, diet doesn't seem to be the smoking gun (or at least not the only one)



The diets (and obesity levels) in Japan are far more favorable compared to the US by conventional nutrition wisdom. Yet they apparently have one of the highest per 100k rates in the world.
Yes but Japan also has the highest aged population so you are BOUND to find greater numbers of colo-rectal patients. I WOULD be curious about an age cohort comparison.

World Health Organization listed China, Us, and Japan with highest CR rates (it's mostly european countries and canada). What a strange assortment!
 
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Yes but Japan also has the highest aged population so you are BOUND to find greater numbers of colo-rectal patients. I WOULD be curious about an age cohort comparison.

World Health Organization listed China, Us, and Japan with highest CR rates (it's mostly european countries and canada). What a strange assortment!
The diets are all over the place when you look at it.

For the longest time we were told red meat was a major factor.

Yet the countries that consume a lot of it are on the decline somehow.

US, New Zealand, Australia, and Canada all have declining colorectal cancer rates that are moving in the right direction (despite obesity itself and other cardiovascular issues increasing)

But places like Taiwan, Thailand, and Denmark (all of which only consume about 1/3 of the red meat we do) have rates that seem to be increasing quite a bit.


Perhaps toxins in the aquatic life playing a factor?

When I sort by that last column (that shows the % change from 1990 to 2017), the nations where it seems to be increasing seem to be a lot of the ones that have various forms of fish as a staple.
 
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