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Federal agents kill Alex Pretti

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Even during the worst days and years of the Biden administration, I had far better things to do with my life than spend multiple hours a day for several weeks out there protesting against the progressive far left wing liberal globalists policies of the Biden administration.
It sounds like things weren’t too bad for you throughout those years. They certainly weren’t kidnapping your neighbors.
 
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The evils of progressive left wing liberal globalization is NOT a fantasy at all.
Yeah but also not bad enough to get you out of your chair.
 
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It sounds like things weren’t too bad for you throughout those years. They certainly weren’t kidnapping your neighbors.
If my neighbors were illegal immigrants, then I would be happily applauding their deportations.
The Biden administration had an abysmal record on the economy. It was only by the Grace of God that I still had enough money to pay the bills for my family.
 
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Yeah but also not bad enough to get you out of your chair.
Bad enough for me to vote them out of office and also protest peacefully without breaking the law.
 
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If my neighbors were illegal immigrants, then I would be happily applauding their deportations.
I totally believe you.
The Biden administration had an abysmal record on the economy. It was only by the Grace of God that I still had enough money to pay the bills for my family.
I believe you that you had troubles having enough money; (if you got paid for posting on this lovely forum it’d have been a lot better, I’d wager).
 
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If my neighbors were illegal immigrants, then I would be happily applauding their deportations.
That’s horrible man. Applauding people having their lives turned upside down. How well do you know your neighbors? I’m glad I don’t live next to you, and I’m a citizen but I figure if you’d heard my mother’s accent, you’d be suspicious of her too.
The Biden administration had an abysmal record on the economy. It was only by the Grace of God that I still had enough money to pay the bills for my family.
That’s terrible. Honestly. Most Americans are still struggling to pay their bills. I guess God’s grace only goes so far.
 
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Bad enough for me to vote them out of office and also protest peacefully without breaking the law.
Sounds very privileged.

I’m not sure if we’ll even have an election this year.
 
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You have just thrown the presumption of innocence under the bus. How is this not an argument for the dissolution of the rule of law?
Also where’d all the 2A people go off to?

“Keep your gun at home and you won’t potentially be killed by federal forces.” Seems to just fly right in the face of the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.
 
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We believe there were a series of things that led up to the shooting that led to the shooting.
Yeah like the 3000 federal officers dumped into their city. These protests didn’t come out of nowhere. They are a direct response to the federal presence in the city. That’s where the escalation started.
 
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I lean towards believing that the shooting was not justified, but I have seen a video and still shot that shows Pretti reaching for the holster and grabbing a magazine he had in his hand. The agents could have mistaken it for a gun.
As far as how the whole thing started there was a woman that was pushed and she grabbed onto Pretti to keep from falling, then he tried to help the woman who was pushed down and pepper sprayed. I don’t agree with other actions he took but in this instance he wasn’t doing anything wrong when he got caught up in it when the woman grabbed him. I am a retired LEO and I question what I see the agent doing spraying pepper spray designed for a crowd inches from the woman’s face. I never had a large can like that, I used pepper spray frequently but never that close to someon’s face and never from a riot size can
The pepper spray directly in the face has been seen repeatedly from these ICE/DHS thugs. They seem to enjoy doing it too. This isn’t law enforcement. This is violent thuggery. Pure and simple. People see these things happening across the country and so when ICE finally does show up in their neighborhood, yeah the people are already opposed to them. Rightfully so. They don’t have the support of the public they are policing and that’s making their jobs harder on them and more dangerous for the rest of us. A change in approach would be wise.
 
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Pretti was at least foolish and reckless. Having no ID has been a tactic of agitators who expect or believe it is likely they will get arrested. And bringing a gun and 63 rounds of ammunition to a likely confrontation with law enforcement is reckless. I consider the actions of the Biden administration immoral, exploiting people for future votes, setting up a system where a huge percentage of women on their way here were raped, where hundreds of thousand of people were trafficked, where children were abandoned to non-relatives and hardened criminals and terrorists were allowed into our country to prey upon the population. It never occurred to me to throw rocks and ice and spit at those who enforced those politics, nor to bring a gun with me if I planning to confront them.
I guess it’s good then, the Biden administration never sent his federal agents to flood your city and force everyone into compliance with their policies.
 
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I guess it’s good then, the Biden administration never sent his federal agents to flood your city and force everyone into compliance with their policies.
I have not been stopped by any vigilante groups yet checking to see who is ICE. I would say I was roughly a mile away from the Whipple Building a few nights ago.
 
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If my neighbors were illegal immigrants, then I would be happily applauding their deportations.
No one is surprised by this.
 
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I have not been stopped by any vigilante groups yet checking to see who is ICE. I would say I was roughly a mile away from the Whipple Building a few nights ago.
Probably because that's not how they operate.
 
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Also where’d all the 2A people go off to?

“Keep your gun at home and you won’t potentially be killed by federal forces.” Seems to just fly right in the face of the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.
There is a divide widening over the last few weeks between "2A Absolutists" and what the 2A Absolutists call "Authoritarian bootlickers."
 
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