Another look at the moon landing.

Strong in Him · Monday at 2:18 AM

Apple Sky said:
I will not, as I never posted that video, I'm not even on face book.

You don't have to be on Facebook to post a link to Facebook.

I'm not on TikTok but I could probably post a link to someone's TikTok video if I thought about it.

Apple Sky · Monday at 5:42 AM

@Michie @Phil G

Looking back at my history I find that I did post it but I don't remember posting it as I was only searching for another name for Santos Bonacci plus it was getting late that night I posted it. This will teach me to be more careful to what I post.

I am truly sorry for any distress that I may have caused for this incident and I will put this straight with MOD's also. Sorry

contratodo · Monday at 5:44 AM

Lost4words said:
moon with its own light believers

That the moon gives off its own light is testable with an infrared thermometer.

Apple Sky · Monday at 6:54 AM

Phil G said:
And your allegations against NASA are without evidence,

Yes, well look up how NASA got started.

Phil G said:
There is clear admonishing in the Bible for those who consult astrologers.

I agree.

Phil G · Monday at 7:02 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes, well look up how NASA got started.

NASA astronauts can profess their faith in Jesus without fearing NASA. There is no evidence that it is satanic. You are just latching onto conspiracy theories.

Apple Sky said:
I agree.

Then why have not denounced the “master astrologer” that you continue to promote?

Apple Sky · Monday at 7:22 AM

Phil G said:
There is no evidence that it is satanic.

Well, Check out Wernher Von Bun, L Ron Hubbard & Jack Parsons.

Let's separate fact from fiction first. Aleister Crowley brought his Magickal Organization from England to the USA. The “Agape Lodge” (Agape means Love” in Pasadena. Jack Parsons was eventually appointed as the head honcho seeing as his mother owned the mansion. It was Crowley's first attempt at establishing his Lodge formally called the “Ordo Templi Orientis.” Lodge members rented rooms there. L Ron Hubbard (before Scientology) was a sleazy con man who was impressed by Crowley's power over his students known as “Adepts.” Hubbard stole much in regard to the structure of Crowley's Organization. He was quoted as saying “the only way I'll ever get rich is to invent my own religion.” (Hubbard was originally a pulp science fiction writer.) Subsequently “Dianetics” was written.

Jack Parsons was instrumental in the founding of the Jet Propulsion Laboratories. He specifically invented rocket fuel originally for jets in WW2 and evolving into the groundwork for rockets going into Space. He allegedly blew himself up (possibly murder) as his affiliation with the Federal Government frowned upon him having ties to Crowley, sex Magick and the occult.

Apple Sky · Monday at 7:23 AM

David Lamb said:
Well, it would save everybody thinking that you had posted the video source, if you simply edited your post by deleting the "offending" video source.

I have.

David Lamb · Monday at 7:26 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes they can, I used to be on this forum where they would do this all the time. try to make out you said something that you didn't say. (David Lamb edited this quote, but cannot edit the original)

But they can't. Try editing a post of mine. Yes, you can quote my post in a post of your own, and in doing so you can edit the quote, as I have done to yours above, but you cannot edit somebody's original post.

David Lamb · Monday at 7:32 AM

Apple Sky said:
I can't be any clearer if I tried, the post was my original, I know it was edited by someone as the next post down it shows this;

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwitgoDvu8qSAxWcVUEAHZ91F48QwqsBegQIGBAB&url=https://www.facebook.com/KenHarris1911/videos/master-astrologist-santos-bonacci-cuts-straight-to-the-heart-of-the-matter-black/860432163020176/&usg=AOvVaw3yULIw7-HV0zG_In3n0c9k&opi=89978449

And not this which was from the supposed original.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...usg=AOvVaw3yULIw7-HV0zG_In3n0c9k&opi=899784

Anyway Good night until.

But both those links take one to the same url.

David Lamb · Monday at 7:43 AM

Apple Sky said:
But Santos Bonacci is not satanic, well I've never looked upon him as satanic.
What makes you think that he is ?

How can an occultist not be satanic? In your Post 389 on the thread "Why People Believe the Earth is Flat" you post this link about Bonacci:

"Yes, Bonacci is a creepy non-human occultist. But that doesn't he's lying to you about this. He gives one of the most detailed and intuitive, dot-connecting presentations about the theoretical mechanics and inner workings of the toroidal vortex emanating from the Black Sun that projects our sun and moon onto the plasma belt of the Firmament at specific heights in our atmosphere. Both the sun and and moon are LOCAL objects projected onto the concaved dome of our oblate spheroidal Earth/Terra plain or Crater I should say. The Crater Earth Theory lines up nicely with all this as well."

Apple Sky · Monday at 7:54 AM

David Lamb said:
But they can't. Try editing a post of mine. Yes, you can quote my post in a post of your own, and in doing so you can edit the quote, as I have done to yours above, but you cannot edit somebody's original post.

Yes I know this now.

Apple Sky · Monday at 8:14 AM

Phil G said:
But there is nothing there saying that any of these people were NASA founders.

But Wernher Von Bun was.

Phil G · Monday at 8:34 AM

Apple Sky said:
But Wernher Von Bun was.

No, he wasn't a founder of NASA. And I'm not going to watch yet another Skiba video!

Von Bun was certainly involved in the Nazi party and he certainly helped develop rockets. And he was employed by NASA. But again that does not mean either NASA or rockets are inherently satanic. That is just conspiracy theorists latching onto bits of information and linking them to their pet claims. It's deception and very unbecoming of a Christian person to endorse this nonsense.

Jerry N. · Monday at 8:44 AM

Apple Sky said:
But Wernher Von Bun was.

This is the same foolishness you presented before. There is nothing there that supports NASA being deceptive or evil. Innuendo is not evidence. “NASA routinely processes raw images to enhance details, or to visualize things the human eye could never see, agency officials have said. Other space agencies, and many astronomers, do the same thing.” (Conspiracy Debunked: NASA Photoshops Images for Good Reason) That is not conspiracy, nor does it mean they are hiding anything. Public satellite images often hide images that have security value. They are hiding things, but it is not any different from closing your blinds when you are walking around your house with your snoopy pajamas.

Apple Sky · Monday at 11:00 AM

Phil G said:
No, he wasn't a founder of NASA.

There isn't one single "founder" of NASA, but Wernher von Braun is arguably the most pivotal figure, leading the German V-2 rocket team brought to the U.S. (via Operation Paperclip) and becoming Director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, spearheading the Saturn V and the Moon landing.

NASA itself was established by President Dwight D. Eisenhower through the National Aeronautics and Space Act in 1958, absorbing the existing National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) and incorporating von Braun's Army team and the JPL.

Phil G · Monday at 11:22 AM

Apple Sky said:
There isn't one single "founder" of NASA, but Wernher von Braun is arguably the most pivotal figure, leading the German V-2 rocket team brought to the U.S. (via Operation Paperclip) and becoming Director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, spearheading the Saturn V and the Moon landing.

NASA itself was established by President Dwight D. Eisenhower through the National Aeronautics and Space Act in 1958, absorbing the existing National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) and incorporating von Braun's Army team and the JPL.

Again you post a quote without referencing the source.

Nevertheless none of your post answers mine. He was not a founder of NASA and neither NASA nor rockets are inherently evil or satanic because of Von Braun's association.

You're just posting random information without answering for your accusations.

In fact, (and @Jerry N. has already alluded to this) by your thinking, both Ford and Volkswagen cars are inherently evil and satanic because of Henry Ford and Hitler.

FreeinChrist · Monday at 12:20 PM

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Good Grief!!

This thread had a major clean up. What I see is one member made a mistake and then 4-5 pages of harassing, flaming, and disruptive behavior followed.
NOT ONE OF THOSE CRITICIZING A CERTAIN POST REPORTED THE POST SO STAFF COULD HANDLE IT.
Only Apple Sky came to the mods asking for help with her own post.

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Apple Sky · Monday at 1:00 PM

Phil G said:
He was not a founder of NASA

No, it was President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who incorporated Von Braun's Army team.

Wernher Von Braun’s Army team consisted of 118 German rocket scientists and engineers, originally from the Peenemünde Army Research Center, who were brought to the U.S. via Operation Paperclip after WWII.

Phil G · Monday at 1:05 PM

Apple Sky said:
No, it was President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who incorporated Von Braun's Army team.

Wernher Von Braun’s Army team consisted of 118 German rocket scientists and engineers, originally from the Peenemünde Army Research Center, who were brought to the U.S. via Operation Paperclip after WWII.

So….that means nothing regarding any alleged inherent evil of NASA.

Hitler commissioned the “people’s car” or “Volks Wagen”. Is Volkswagen an inherently evil car manufacturer?

Henry Ford was a racist and anti-Semite. Is Ford an inherently evil car manufacturer?

Conspiracy theorists gather bits of information and then make a leap to a conclusion which has no basis in reality.

And, as I’ve stated now a number of times, Christian astronauts bear witness to the gospel of Christ without any hindrance by NASA. So your claim of NASA being satanic is just nonsense invented by conspiracy theorists with no evidence.

Jerry N. · Monday at 1:21 PM

Phil G said:
So….that means nothing regarding any alleged inherent evil of NASA.

Hitler commissioned the “people’s car” or “Volks Wagen”. Is Volkswagen an inherently evil car manufacturer?

Henry Ford was a racist and anti-Semite. Is Ford an inherently evil car manufacturer?

Conspiracy theorists gather bits of information and then make a leap to a conclusion which has no basis in reality.

And, as I’ve stated now a number of times, Christian astronauts bear witness to the gospel of Christ without any hindrance by NASA. So your claim of NASA being satanic is just nonsense invented by conspiracy theorists with no evidence.

I’m not arguing with you, but I want to fix holes in my education. Isn’t antisemitism a form of racism? In Poland it is. I will be going to bed shortly.

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