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Nick Fuentes begs Trump to kill MN protesters

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Were you really invested 100% in small caps? I also like how you're giving Trump credit for gains in Biden's term, but ignoring the massive downturn during the Trump pandemic. Them's some mightily movable goalposts!
I was 100% for that 4-5 years. Then stuck with the G fund after that. Most of my largest gains were under Trump. The pandemic was not Trump's fault and things recovered pretty fast. My friend had 100% in small caps and about 6 months into Biden's term he took a hit and did not recover for a little while.
 
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I was 100% for that 4-5 years. Then stuck with the G fund after that.
Pretty extreme swing in that TSP. Still in the G Fund?
Most of my largest gains were under Trump. The pandemic was not Trump's fault and things recovered pretty fast. My friend had 100% in small caps and about 6 months into Biden's term he took a hit and did not recover for a little while.
The market recovered during Biden's term just as it did during Trump's.
 
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Pretty extreme swing in that TSP. Still in the G Fund?
Yes it was and I'm still 100% G fund. I got tired of all the ups and downs. It does not have big returns (or any losses) but it still has decent returns with the amount I have in there and especially with the very low fees with the TSP.
The market recovered during Biden's term just as it did during Trump's.
Yes, eventually it did.
 
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Yes it was and I'm still 100% G fund. I got tired of all the ups and downs.
You don't trust Trump in his second term?
It does not have big returns (or any losses) but it still has decent returns with the amount I have in there and especially with the very low fees with the TSP.
That G fund is just barely above inflation now.
 
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You don't trust Trump in his second term?
Its not him that I'm worried about.
That G fund is just barely above inflation now.
Thats okay. I have a pension with cost of living raises. The TSP is supplemental for me anyway and social security is on the horizon. Get things paid off (especially your house) and that money goes even further. I'm not a rich man, but I am a blessed man. :)
 
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Mr. Fuentes is scary. He needs serious help.

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The best help would be for the Christian right to stop supporting Trump. No Trump; no Fuentes. Easy peasy. Well, it might be too late now. Sad, very sad.
 
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The best help would be for the Christian right to stop supporting Trump. No Trump; no Fuentes. Easy peasy. Well, it might be too late now. Sad, very sad.

Not so simple. Fuentes existed long before Trump and will be here long after. The troubling thing is the base is expanding. 30 years ago there would be no one with the name "Fuentes" in the shadows.
 
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Not so simple. Fuentes existed long before Trump and will be here long after. The troubling thing is the base is expanding. 30 years ago there would be no one with the name "Fuentes" in the shadows.

Trump gave Fuentes air to breath. Suffocate the head, kill the body.
 
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I wouldn't trust him, either.

"The Dow Jones Industrial Average just hit 50,000 for the first time in History. CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!" Trump wrote
 
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Trump gave Fuentes air to breathe. Suffocate the head, kill the body.
Fuentes plays a specific role that he’s going to be exceptionally bad at, (think “the street” version of Stephen Miller).
 
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"The Dow Jones Industrial Average just hit 50,000 for the first time in History. CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!" Trump wrote
Yeah it peaked in ‘29 too.
 
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If you're in the G fund, you missed out.
That's okay. I did not miss out before and you can't win them all. ;) I'm not a money grubber anyway. I already reached my desired financial goal.
 
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The best help would be for the Christian right to stop supporting Trump. No Trump; no Fuentes. Easy peasy. Well, it might be too late now. Sad, very sad.

Anyone paying attention to the evolution of the Religious Right over the past 60 years already knows that this is, more-or-less, the plan.
Thinking this has anything to do with religion itself, as though this is "conservative Christianity" ignores what has largely been deliberate political maneuvering and manipulation since the Civil Rights era. Evangelicalism was hijacked, and over decades of deliberate propaganda this is the result.

As someone who grew up in 80's and 90's Evangelicalism, and only started to have the blinders fall off ~2004. I know that I, personally, have been talking about this stuff for literally over 20 years. And it goes well before my time. I've been watching my religion taken hostage for decades now.
 
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Anyone paying attention to the evolution of the Religious Right over the past 60 years already knows that this is, more-or-less, the plan.
Thinking this has anything to do with religion itself, as though this is "conservative Christianity" ignores what has largely been deliberate political maneuvering and manipulation since the Civil Rights era. Evangelicalism was hijacked, and over decades of deliberate propaganda this is the result.

As someone who grew up in 80's and 90's Evangelicalism, and only started to have the blinders fall off ~2004. I know that I, personally, have been talking about this stuff for literally over 20 years. And it goes well before my time. I've been watching my religion taken hostage for decades now.

I agree, Francis Schaeffer and Jerry Falwell are weird bedfellows, but they are bedfellows nonetheless. Now we all get to lie in the bed they made. Be that as it may, none of that explains what we are seeing. Nick Fuentes is a rube, but I worry about folks like poor Howard Dean. Who knew he could have been an intimate associate of a convicted pedophile and still have a secure political career? But, sadly, he yelled weirdly.
 
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Fuentes plays a specific role that he’s going to be exceptionally bad at, (think “the street” version of Stephen Miller).

Apparently, it's a spectrum and lots of folks fall in-between Fuentes and Miller. Gratefully, this administration is ruining our economy. Hatred and imagined offense gets the endorphins kicked in, but it doesn't feed and entertain people who have no will to resist their baser passions. Let's face it, even racists and haters like to eat. We should think positive. Things will turn around any day now.
 
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'Trump says, “I'll invoke the Insurrection Act.'”

Bro, do it. Do something. Just stop chickening out. I'm just tired of the idle threats. Please pull the trigger. Please kill them, Mr. President. Please just kill them. Take some responsibility, take the reins, send in the military... If this Jewish communist running the city won't arrest these people, if this gay [censored] governor, Tim Walz, doesn't do it, send in the military. That's why you were elected.'


I sure am glad to see the right advocating for peace.
Republicans just believing an authoritarian regime that sprouts nonsense about Pretti being a terrorist... because he turned up with a GUN?
Republicans saying it's WRONG to carry a GUN to a protest?
( When in the MAJORITY of States that's perfectly legal? )
Republicans demanding that citizens stop protesting so big government can over-reach?
Republicans letting masked men in brown jackets drag people off the streets?
Republicans believing and repeating regime LIES about the Constitution I thought they were sworn to protect?
Republicans defending the random shootings of Protesters legally voicing their concerns on the sidewalk?

There was a day when the above points would have made Republicans load up their 'second amendments' and march on Washington in the tens of thousands!
What weird mirror-world have I woken up in?
At least Joe Rogan gets it.
He helped get Trump elected.
But now he's warning about the return of the Brown Shirts!
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As a former soldier in the Australian Army, I am against the Second Amendment or anything like it for Australia. Aussie farmers and gun club owners can lock away guns at night, but the average citizen does not need them.
FACT: Gun deaths rise as gun ownership does.
FACT: Australia's worst mass-shooting event was in Port Arthur decades ago. Then our conservative government banned many categories of guns, and funded an enormous gun by-back with an amnesty period.
FACT: This radically lowered gun-deaths, and it was only recently that we had another mass shooting at Bondi.
FACT: America's high gun ownership puts their murder rate up with many failed states or drug-empire states!

But that's a whole other debate. The point here?
MAGA has utterly fragmented and distorted what Republicans used to be about!
It is UTTER hypocrisy for MAGA to cry foul that Pretti TOOK A GUN to a protest!
It seems they are more concerned to defend authoritarian over-reach than their own values.
I am astonished at America today.
 
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Republicans just believing an authoritarian regime that sprouts nonsense about Pretti being a terrorist... because he turned up with a GUN?
Republicans saying it's WRONG to carry a GUN to a protest?
( When in the MAJORITY of States that's perfectly legal? )
Republicans demanding that citizens stop protesting so big government can over-reach?
Republicans letting masked men in brown jackets drag people off the streets?
Republicans believing and repeating regime LIES about the Constitution I thought they were sworn to protect?
Republicans defending the random shootings of Protesters legally voicing their concerns on the sidewalk?

There was a day when the above points would have made Republicans load up their 'second amendments' and march on Washington in the tens of thousands!
What weird mirror-world have I woken up in?
At least Joe Rogan gets it.
He helped get Trump elected.
But now he's warning about the return of the Brown Shirts!
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As a former soldier in the Australian Army, I am against the Second Amendment or anything like it for Australia. Aussie farmers and gun club owners can lock away guns at night, but the average citizen does not need them.
FACT: Gun deaths rise as gun ownership does.
FACT: Australia's worst mass-shooting event was in Port Arthur decades ago. Then our conservative government banned many categories of guns, and funded an enormous gun by-back with an amnesty period.
FACT: This radically lowered gun-deaths, and it was only recently that we had another mass shooting at Bondi.
FACT: America's high gun ownership puts their murder rate up with many failed states or drug-empire states!

But that's a whole other debate. The point here?
MAGA has utterly fragmented and distorted what Republicans used to be about!
It is UTTER hypocrisy for MAGA to cry foul that Pretti TOOK A GUN to a protest!
It seems they are more concerned to defend authoritarian over-reach than their own values.
I am astonished at America today.

It's not actually that shocking. The modern Republican Party emerged 60 years ago through the Southern Strategy, to take advantage of the discontent of racist Southern Democrats who didn't like the way the Democratic Party was becoming pro-Civil Rights. And so it was a political marketing strategy that largely involved betraying the historic legacy of the Republican Party, catering to racist white Southerners, and building itself on a platform of big business, Social Darwinism, faux morality, and racism. Never outright saying it was for these things, but always obvious below the very thin surface layer of "family values".

As such the modus operandi of the Republican Party, as it began to gain traction under Reagan in the 80's was to use religion, family, and political nostalgia to reclaim, and then maintain, power. Since the Republican Party benefits the extremely wealthy, it has always relied on the rich and powerful. And has also had to rely on the dehumanizing and demonizing of other groups of people, because without manufactured fear and a group to scapegoat, without hate the Republican Party can't maintain support from the lower and middle class. You can't convince a poor working family to vote Republican if you openly tell them that your plan is to make things actively worse for them and to keep them poor and struggling. That's why you have to appeal to their prejudices, and then amplify those prejudices through manufactured outrage. Muslims, Mexicans, Gays, just find a group that your base doesn't know much about, has some prejudice for already, and then dial that up to 11. Sure you're still making life worse for them, but now you get to pretend that you're also protecting them from the big bad boogeymen that want to steal their jobs, destroy America, or come for their children--ooo scary.

So what's changed under Trump? What's changed with MAGA? Not much actually. But it is more openly transparent now. And it turns out there were Republicans who did hold to some principles, but MAGA has made sure their careers are over as they have been assigned RINO status. If you don't support the strong man, then you don't get to be part of the exclusive club.

The last 60 years the Republican Party has devolved into a degenerate social club for old white men clinging to power. The real question right now is whether MAGA represents final throes of a dying party, or the emergence of a new, reactionary party in which the last 60 years was merely a prelude for.
 
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