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X Raided in France

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Musk’s social media platform X raided by Paris prosecutor | CNN Business


French offices of Elon Musk’s X platform raided by Paris cybercrime unit​


French police raided the Paris offices of Elon Musk’s X Tuesday and summoned the tech billionaire for questioning as part of a widening probe into the social media company and its AI chatbot Grok.

Both X chairman Musk and former X chief executive Linda Yaccarino have been summoned to appear at hearings in April, while X employees will be questioned as witnesses, according to the Paris prosecutor.

Prosecutor Laure Beccuau said the investigation, which initially focused on suspected abuse of algorithms, had been broadened to include Grok’s “sexual deepfakes” and the circulation of “Holocaust denial content.”
 
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Yep, so what? We all know that liberals don't like Musk because of politics. Shut them up because a little knowledge might be gleaned from X. Macron is still into cancel culture.
 
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Yep, so what? We all know that liberals don't like Musk because of politics. Shut them up because a little knowledge might be gleaned from X. Macron is still into cancel culture.
Come on, man. This thread is about X's "AI" generating nude/sexualized pictures of children that has nothing to do with "politics".
 
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Yep, so what? We all know that liberals don't like Musk because of politics. Shut them up because a little knowledge might be gleaned from X. Macron is still into cancel culture.
The guy provides a platform that caters non exclusively paedophiles.

Don’t you want to be against that?
 
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Musk's Grok AI produces sexualised pictures of children.
Europeans demand that Musk stop Grok from doing that.
Right-wingers lose their **** and call it censorship.

Repulsive.
Silly goose! It more important that people have the FREEDOM! to quickly search for images of diddling kids than not have that FREEDOM!
 
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Come on, man. This thread is about X's "AI" generating nude/sexualized pictures of children that has nothing to do with "politics".
You are correct. Those European freeloaders have rented space in my mind. But isn't X doing something about it, and France gave them only a month to work on algorithms before raiding the joint?

Politics? Why publicize it if it's a law enforcement operation? Maybe a little virtue signaling to his constituents.

"The Paris Public Prosecutor’s office widely publicized the raid—making clear that today’s action was an abusive act of law enforcement theater designed to achieve illegitimate political objectives rather than advance legitimate law enforcement goals rooted in the fair and impartial administration of justice."

I'll let the investigation pan out.
 
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You are correct. Those European freeloaders have rented space in my mind. But isn't X doing something about it, and France gave them only a month to work on algorithms before raiding the joint?
They claim to, but it is still happening. Also, not doing crime any more doesn't absolve you of the crime you were doing.
Politics? Why publicize it if it's a law enforcement operation? Maybe a little virtue signaling to his constituents.
Have you never heard of a police press conference? This is pretty normal stuff on that front.
"The Paris Public Prosecutor’s office widely publicized the raid—making clear that today’s action was an abusive act of law enforcement theater designed to achieve illegitimate political objectives rather than advance legitimate law enforcement goals rooted in the fair and impartial administration of justice."

I'll let the investigation pan out.

Who are you quoting? I can't tell.
 
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You are correct. Those European freeloaders have rented space in my mind. But isn't X doing something about it, and France gave them only a month to work on algorithms before raiding the joint?
Well if they gave them a month to work on it, they were quite generous to allow the platform to allow the production of CP for a whole month. If that's not enough time, you take the damn product/program down until you can fix it from being used to produce criminal content.
 
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Come on, man. This thread is about X's "AI" generating nude/sexualized pictures of children that has nothing to do with "politics".

It's getting harder to get that kind of content since Jeffries Island shut down.
 
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Musk's Grok AI produces sexualised pictures of children.
Europeans demand that Musk stop Grok from doing that.
Right-wingers lose their **** and call it censorship.

Repulsive.
That’s disgusting! Ugh
 
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Yep, so what? We all know that liberals don't like Musk because of politics. Shut them up because a little knowledge might be gleaned from X. Macron is still into cancel culture.
Producing child pornography and nudes of not consenting adults is (or should be) above politics. Generating Holocaust denial is forbidden in France (and most other European countries). This is again above all political divide.
If you want to defend Musk because he is on "your side", then I am wondering what "your side" looks like.
 
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Musk's Grok AI produces sexualised pictures of children.
Europeans demand that Musk stop Grok from doing that.
Right-wingers lose their **** and call it censorship.

Repulsive.
I agree. It is repulsive. I think any pornography is repulsive. But just to play devil's advocate, if some sick pedophile uses AI to generate child porn, who is the victim? What is the crime? I mean, which would you prefer, a pedophile abducting a child to force them into a psychopathic photo shoot that would leave them traumatized for the rest of their lives, or some guy getting an AI to give them what they need without the trauma? This is an ethical dilemma for many. My opinion is that lust is never satisfied. So AI child porn would just be a temporary solution before these sick individuals will not even be satisfied with that and seek human victims anyway.
 
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I agree. It is repulsive. I think any pornography is repulsive. But just to play devil's advocate, if some sick pedophile uses AI to generate child porn, who is the victim? What is the crime? I mean, which would you prefer, a pedophile abducting a child to force them into a psychopathic photo shoot that would leave them traumatized for the rest of their lives, or some guy getting an AI to give them what they need without the trauma? This is an ethical dilemma for many. My opinion is that lust is never satisfied. So AI child porn would just be a temporary solution before these sick individuals will not even be satisfied with that and seek human victims anyway.
Your argument boils down to "the law doesn't need to be enforced, because morally more repulsive acts are possible". Do you see the flaw?
If I slap you in the face, I don't need to be prosecuted, because I could have punched you. (of course a hypothetical, under no circumstance would I commit any of such acts).
And beside child pornography, X is indicted of having broken other laws:



The Paris prosecutors' office has listed the allegations that it is looking into as part of its investigation into Musk's social media platform:

  • Complicity in the possession of images of minors of a pornographic nature
  • Complicity in the organised distribution, offering, or making available of images of ‍minors of a pornographic nature
  • Defamation of a person's image (deepfakes of sexual nature)
  • Denial of crimes against humanity (Holocaust denial)
  • Fraudulent extraction of data from an ⁠automated data processing system by an organized group
  • Falsification of the operation ‌of ‌an automated data processing system by an organized group
  • Operating of an illegal online platform by an organized group
 
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You are correct. Those European freeloaders have rented space in my mind. But isn't X doing something about it, and France gave them only a month to work on algorithms before raiding the joint?
Exactly. How could you expect one of the richest men of the world to stop producing child porn in a month? That's just not reasonable.
 
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Your argument boils down to "the law doesn't need to be enforced, because morally more repulsive acts are possible". Do you see the flaw?
No. I do not understand the flaw. Although I believe it to be abhorrent, explain the difference between someone using AI to create a fantasy porn video of their favorite anime character and someone using it to do the same thing with a computer generated image of a child? Although both disgusting, I see no difference. No victims. No different than two adult humans creating a video doing sexual acts for the purpose of generating income. Which leads me to wonder what the difference is between "porn actress" and a prostitute other than a camera? But that is a topic for another discussion.
 
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No. I do not understand the flaw. Although I believe it to be abhorrent, explain the difference between someone using AI to create a fantasy porn video of their favorite anime character and someone using it to do the same thing with a computer generated image of a child? Although both disgusting, I see no difference. No victims.
A lot of the AI pictures were sexualised pictures of real children (and adult women, who also didn't agree to having their appearance linked to pornographic images).

But let me guess, you'd be okay with your appearance linked to vile pictures and then posted on social media.
 
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