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President Trump Touts Massive First Year Wins in Primetime Address

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It's not "conceding" Democrat talking points, it's ADDRESSING Democrat talking points. Indeed eggs were the focus by Democrats beginning soon after Trump took office. The major media, ostensibly a powerful branch of the Democratic Party, was jumping on Trump for not bringing the price of eggs down
Yes, which is why the appropriate response would've been to point out the silliness of the egg debate with the stats I posted earlier.

Rather than concede to their premise that "egg prices are super important for the everyday consumer" and put a ton of resources and effort into trying to lower it. It's a no-win trap.

Because we're seeing the organic outcome reflecting that egg prices, were indeed, not that consequential to the average person's budget... because the price did come back down a bit, and people still don't have a positive view of their overall economic situation.
 
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I know the Republicans 'kicked the can' of the budget only into January, and I believe they will be no closer to a workable budget solution when that time comes. I hope they can come together with Democrats to find some compromise that can get an easy passage, but it seems pretty unlikely given the recent past.
Was I too pessimistic?

Congress is on track to avoid another shutdown, but it needs to clear several hurdles in a short amount of time in order to beat its month-end deadline.

The pressure is on the House to pass four of the most challenging spending bills Thursday — to fund the departments of Defense, HHS, Labor, HUD, Transportation, Education and Homeland Security — then bundle them up with the two-bill package the chamber previously passed to fund Financial Services and State-Foreign Operations.

Senators will then have one week to take a big swing at passing all six bills before sending them to President Donald Trump’s desk.

Time crunch in the Senate: The Senate is in recess this week, but it is due to return Monday — if travel back to Washington isn’t derailed by snow this weekend.

Speaker Mike Johnson’s barely-there majority could pose a problem come Thursday, when the House is expected to vote along party lines to tee up the rule vote allowing the final package of spending bills to come to the floor.

House Freedom Caucus members told POLITICO Tuesday night they are combing through all the earmarks included in this funding package after previously vowing to work vigilantly to block money for projects they don’t like.
 
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Was I too pessimistic?

Congress is on track to avoid another shutdown, but it needs to clear several hurdles in a short amount of time in order to beat its month-end deadline.

The pressure is on the House to pass four of the most challenging spending bills Thursday — to fund the departments of Defense, HHS, Labor, HUD, Transportation, Education and Homeland Security — then bundle them up with the two-bill package the chamber previously passed to fund Financial Services and State-Foreign Operations.

Senators will then have one week to take a big swing at passing all six bills before sending them to President Donald Trump’s desk.

Time crunch in the Senate: The Senate is in recess this week, but it is due to return Monday — if travel back to Washington isn’t derailed by snow this weekend.

Speaker Mike Johnson’s barely-there majority could pose a problem come Thursday, when the House is expected to vote along party lines to tee up the rule vote allowing the final package of spending bills to come to the floor.

House Freedom Caucus members told POLITICO Tuesday night they are combing through all the earmarks included in this funding package after previously vowing to work vigilantly to block money for projects they don’t like.

Isn't the only real sticking point going to be the DHS bill? It's pretty amazing if the rest gets passed with so much division. I'm hoping it's a good sign that some of the major cuts Trump wanted aren't happening (e.g., science and health research).
 
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Isn't the only real sticking point going to be the DHS bill?
The Republicans have not (yet) separated the DHS from some of the other departments in the bill, and thus...

Another shutdown likely after ICE killings in Minnesota prompt revolt by Democrats

Democrats — and some Republicans — view the episode as a tipping point in the debate over the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement policies.

The Democratic defections threaten to derail passage of a broad spending package that also includes funding for the State Department and the Pentagon, as well as education, health, labor and transportation agencies. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) released a statement Monday calling on Republican Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) to avert another shutdown by separating funding for DHS from the full appropriations package.

Senate Republicans must secure 60 votes to advance the spending measure in the chamber — a threshold they cannot reach on their own with their 53 seats. The job is further complicated by a time crunch: Lawmakers have until midnight Friday to reach a compromise or face a partial government shutdown.

If Democrats are successful in striking down the Homeland Security spending package, some hinted at comprehensive immigration reforms to follow. [Now that would be something.]
 
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House Freedom Caucus members told POLITICO Tuesday night they are combing through all the earmarks included in this funding package after previously vowing to work vigilantly to block money for projects they don’t like.

Fiscal conservatives in Congress threatened for months to block government funding if GOP leaders didn’t shun earmarks. They succeeded in scrapping just one [Sorry Rep. Omar]; the rest, almost $16 billion worth, are slated in the package the Senate needs to clear by Friday to avoid a shutdown.

Now Republicans run Washington once again, and they’re overwhelmingly embracing the renaissance. As the Senate considers a nearly $1.3 trillion funding package this week loaded with thousands of earmarks for projects in specific congressional districts, fiscal hawks are acknowledging defeat.

“When a majority of the United States House and a large chunk of the Senate seemingly want to advance earmarks, there’s only so much you can do,” Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), a member of the House Freedom Caucus, said in an interview.

“It’s not worth being in Congress if you can’t find ways to help your district,” Rep. Mike Flood (R-NE) said in an interview.

In a sign House Republicans are growing more comfortable with the practice, they are now discussing whether to expand earmarks in future funding bills to include education, health and labor projects, according to Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-Ala.), who chairs the panel in charge of that money.
 
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The Republicans have not (yet) separated the DHS from some of the other departments in the bill, and thus...

Another shutdown likely after ICE killings in Minnesota prompt revolt by Democrats

Democrats — and some Republicans — view the episode as a tipping point in the debate over the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement policies.

The Democratic defections threaten to derail passage of a broad spending package that also includes funding for the State Department and the Pentagon, as well as education, health, labor and transportation agencies. Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) released a statement Monday calling on Republican Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) to avert another shutdown by separating funding for DHS from the full appropriations package.

Senate Republicans must secure 60 votes to advance the spending measure in the chamber — a threshold they cannot reach on their own with their 53 seats. The job is further complicated by a time crunch: Lawmakers have until midnight Friday to reach a compromise or face a partial government shutdown.

If Democrats are successful in striking down the Homeland Security spending package, some hinted at comprehensive immigration reforms to follow. [Now that would be something.]

If they separate the DHS funding, which they should, it has to go back to Congress, and they're on recess. But yeah, that's what we need, comprehensive immigration reform.
 
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Senate Republicans and Democrats will head into separate lunches Wednesday for their first in-person conference meetings on how to avoid a partial shutdown at the end of the week.

A new polling memo circulating among senators, obtained by POLITICO, is providing some encouragement for Democrats. The Searchlight Institute found that “bipartisan majorities of voters oppose ICE’s lawless tactics, including detaining U.S. citizens (73 percent), entering people’s homes without warrants (79 percent), and failing to wear clearly identifying uniforms (70 percent).”

Majority Leader John Thune ... acknowledged members of his own conference would block any attempt to strip DHS funding from the six-bill appropriations package.

Democrats want House leaders to bring the chamber back from recess to be ready to pass amended legislation — but Republicans say they have no plans to do so.

The Senate will vote Thursday on advancing the six-bill package as is. Thune said it’s “to be determined” what happens if that vote fails.
 
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Senate fails to advance spending bills

The measure needed to meet a 60-vote threshold to pass. The vote was 45-55.

Republicans have a 53 member majority.

Budd (R-NC)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lee (R-UT)
Moody (R-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Scott (R-FL)
Thune (R-SD)
Tuberville (R-AL)

were noes. Thune may have done so for some procedural thingy.
 
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Democrats say they’ve reached agreement to avert shutdown

The deal would separate DHS funding from bills funding other agencies, Dems say.

They would fund DHS for two weeks to give time for more negotiation, and the other departments out to the end of the fiscal year.

That's exactly what should happen. ICE is a nightmare that has to be addressed. Where's DOGE when you really need it? Think of all the money we could save not abusing immigrants and citizens.
 
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That's exactly what should happen. ICE is a nightmare that has to be addressed. Where's DOGE when you really need it? Think of all the money we could save not abusing immigrants and citizens.
But then how is the Government going to rid us of the people who weren’t wise enough to be born in this country?
 
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Mostly anyway. Since the House couldn't be bothered to come back, the government is shut down. Presumably, the House will get things sorted out early next week, so the shutdown won't affect much. The Senate vote was 71-29, with only five Republicans voting against: Sens. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson and Rick Scott.

Partial government shutdown expected to extend longer than anticipated

House Speaker Mike Johnson hoped to vote on the funding bills on Monday when the House returns under suspension of the rules, which would have required a two-thirds majority. [Jeffries doesn't want to play ball without getting some clarity on what will be done to fix DHS.]

Johnson told Fox News on Sunday that he is confident the package will pass by Tuesday.

Johnson will now have to first pass the package through the House Rules Committee before it can be taken to the floor for a vote so Republicans can attempt to pass the package with a simple majority.
 
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GOP faces divide on ICE reforms as House struggles to end shutdown

Some Republicans are now open to demands by Democrats to stop roving ICE patrols, to require search warrants for immigration enforcement officers and to establish a code of conduct governing use of force.

“I’m willing to look at their ideas,” said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, who noted that Republicans have already included a reform provision in the Homeland Security bill to fund deescalation training for all new ICE officers.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), a member of the Judiciary Committee, said he’s open to many of the Democratic proposals

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said she’s open to some of the reforms

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Sunday also suggested a willingness to negotiate on some of the Democratic demands.

“Some of these conditions and requests that they’ve made are obviously reasonable and should happen.

Other GOP lawmakers are slamming the Democratic proposals as “non-starters” and giving in to “radical Left” protesters in Minneapolis.

“I think they’re completely non-starters,” Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said of Democratic proposals to reform ICE.

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) also dismissed the reforms demanded by Democrats as “non-starters.”

[I guess the talking points memo got around.]

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) slammed his Republican leadership for not being more vocal in defending ICE officers.

“Where are you at, leaders? Where have you been? These people are patriotic,” he said.
 
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Mostly anyway. Since the House couldn't be bothered to come back, the government is shut down. Presumably, the House will get things sorted out early next week, so the shutdown won't affect much. The Senate vote was 71-29, with only five Republicans voting against: Sens. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson and Rick Scott.
There latest thing is for one chamber to "jam" the other. Passing a bill in a form the other chamber would prefer to modify some, using an external deadline (like a pending shutdown), and then leaving town. This leaves the "jammed" chamber with the choice to either pass the bill in a form the don't like or shutdown the government.

In this case there were two "mini-bus" bills that passed, one 2 weeks before the deadline, one 1 week before, and the DHS bill one week before the deadline.

The Senate *could* have considered the first "mini-bus" two weeks ago, but they were on recess that week while the House finished the other bills. Because it takes almost a week to get bills like that through the Senate, there wasn't time in one wee, to pass 3 bills, so the House passed a resolution merging the three into one.

I suspect that GOP Congressional leadership assumed (probably correctly) that the dissatisfaction with DHS operations would not be strong enough to keep them from breaking the filibuster (only 7 of 47 Dems are needed to break the filibuster), particularly if about half of the funding bills were tied to the DHS bill. Unfortunately for the GOP, the situation in Minn got much more intense that very weekend.
 
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[Republican Massie voted no. Will anyone defect from either side for the real vote?]
A suspiciously balanced amount.

The bill passed 217 to 214, with 21 Democrats in support and 21 Republicans voting against it.

The legislation funds several federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, through September, but gives the Department of Homeland Security only 10 more days of funding as a way to force reforms to Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement tactics. The bill was a product of negotiations between Senate Democrats and the Trump administration.
 
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