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FCC cracking down on liberal talk-shows not giving equal airtime to GOP guests

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It’s further Right than it typically has been, under Ms Weiss.
Based on what? I'm watching it every day on the 24/7 version and if this is further right they must have been MSNBC before
 
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Based on what? I'm watching it every day on the 24/7 version and if this is further right they must have been MSNBC before
This probably doesn't affect local news, but rather the national programs like 60 Minutes and the CBS Evening News, now with Tony Dokoupil.

MAGA-Coded Anchor Scores Lowest Ratings of the Century for CBS News

Dokoupil, who had a subpar opening night, introduced himself to viewers on New Year’s Day by criticizing the “legacy media” for having “missed the story” for taking “into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American,” and for putting “too much weight in the analysis of academics or elites, and not enough on you.”

Perhaps going after that 'average American' feel, he recently interviewed his mom.

Anchor Tony Dokoupil Mocked for ‘Hard-Hitting’ Segment With His Mom Amid CBS Crackdown on ‘Scoops’

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But perhaps his greatest work as a hardhitting journalist speaking truth to power was his interview with Secretary Rubio.

"Marco Rubio, we salute you. You’re the ultimate Florida man.”
 
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This probably doesn't affect local news, but rather the national programs like 60 Minutes and the CBS Evening News, now with Tony Dokoupil.

MAGA-Coded Anchor Scores Lowest Ratings of the Century for CBS News

Dokoupil, who had a subpar opening night, introduced himself to viewers on New Year’s Day by criticizing the “legacy media” for having “missed the story” for taking “into account the perspective of advocates and not the average American,” and for putting “too much weight in the analysis of academics or elites, and not enough on you.”

Perhaps going after that 'average American' feel, he recently interviewed his mom.

Anchor Tony Dokoupil Mocked for ‘Hard-Hitting’ Segment With His Mom Amid CBS Crackdown on ‘Scoops’

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But perhaps his greatest work as a hardhitting journalist speaking truth to power was his interview with Secretary Rubio.

"Marco Rubio, we salute you. You’re the ultimate Florida man.”
It's not local news
 
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Interesting. I was under the impression that only Fox News was right leaning.

I must get with the times as they say…
Apparently if you are not a blatant bleeding heart liberal you are on the right
 
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Apparently if you are not a blatant bleeding heart liberal you are on the right
Some people can be moderate, none, or lean closer to the right or left.
 
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There was a solution in place for about 4 decades...but they let it expire in the late 80's.


The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented.


While it didn't require equal time...it was still a decent system for the time.

The issue they'd have with it today, if re-introduced with no changes, would be figuring out some way to make sure it was being practiced in sincerity.

Pundits and Opinion-based outlets would be crafty enough in the modern environment to use that "contrasting viewpoint" requirement to sneakily actually bolster their own bias/arguments.

For example, if an outlet has an established bias, and they're legally required to give time to a contrasting viewpoint, there's nothing dictating that they can't "stack the deck". Meaning, do a segment where you get the smartest-sounding, best debater from your own side, and put them up against a random goofball from the other side.


For the fairness doctrine to be re-introduced, there would need to be some additional stipulations put in place so that it actually served its intent.

Otherwise, it'd end up being
Fox News: "In our next segment, we have Ben Shapiro vs. 19 year old Gender studies major from Berkely to discuss reparations"
MSNBC: "Up next, we have former labor Secretary Robert Reich to debate SNAP changes with Cletus from the Wheeling WV Liberty or Die chapter"
 
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Interesting. I was under the impression that only Fox News was right leaning.

I must get with the times as they say…

There are a couple of "new" cable channels that are right even to the right of Fox that started in the last decade.

(And "yet" is in the *future* tense.)
 
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There was a solution in place for about 4 decades...but they let it expire in the late 80's.


The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented.


While it didn't require equal time...it was still a decent system for the time.

The issue they'd have with it today, if re-introduced with no changes, would be figuring out some way to make sure it was being practiced in sincerity.

Pundits and Opinion-based outlets would be crafty enough in the modern environment to use that "contrasting viewpoint" requirement to sneakily actually bolster their own bias/arguments.

For example, if an outlet has an established bias, and they're legally required to give time to a contrasting viewpoint, there's nothing dictating that they can't "stack the deck". Meaning, do a segment where you get the smartest-sounding, best debater from your own side, and put them up against a random goofball from the other side.


For the fairness doctrine to be re-introduced, there would need to be some additional stipulations put in place so that it actually served its intent.
Fairness doctrine was about access to the public airwaves...
Otherwise, it'd end up being
Fox News: "In our next segment, we have Ben Shapiro vs. 19 year old Gender studies major from Berkely to discuss reparations"
MSNBC: "Up next, we have former labor Secretary Robert Reich to debate SNAP changes with Cletus from the Wheeling WV Liberty or Die chapter"
Neither of these are (were) broadcast channels. Fairness doctrine NEVER applied to cable TV.
 
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There are a couple of "new" cable channels that are right even to the right of Fox that started in the last decade.

(And "yet" is in the *future* tense.)
Ok! I don’t watch much cable anymore which explains why I’m not in the loop ;)

I forgot about Newsmax, if they count ;)
 
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Neither of these are (were) broadcast channels. Fairness doctrine NEVER applied to cable TV.
For it to have any effect in the modern environment, it would have to be applied to cable TV (as well as other mediums)

The Fairness doctrine (only applying to broadcast TV and nothing else) would only impact about a fifth of the market share.

"ABC World News Tonight, you have to present your 7 million quarterly viewers with contrasting viewpoints" accomplishes very little if there are podcasts and and other non-broadcasts mediums putting up those kinds of numbers in a week.


The other aspect I haven't touched on is the Overton Window, and how that would be viewed in terms of social responsibility.

The Fairness Doctrine, in it's previous state, would dictate that during covid, if ABC had Fauci on to discuss the importance of the covid vaccine, they would've needed to give Robert Malone time on their show to present a contrasting viewpoint...would people have been cool with that arrangement?
 
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For it to have any effect in the modern environment, it would have to be applied to cable TV (as well as other mediums)
And what would be the legal basis for that?

Remember the old fairness doctrine (and public service requirements, and public decency requirements) for broadcast TV and radio derived from the licenses being applied to the public airwaves.
The Fairness doctrine (only applying to broadcast TV and nothing else) would only impact about a fifth of the market share.

"ABC World News Tonight, you have to present your 7 million quarterly viewers with contrasting viewpoints" accomplishes very little if there are podcasts and and other non-broadcasts mediums putting up those kinds of numbers in a week.


The other aspect I haven't touched on is the Overton Window, and how that would be viewed in terms of social responsibility.

The Fairness Doctrine, in it's previous state, would dictate that during covid, if ABC had Fauci on to discuss the importance of the covid vaccine, they would've needed to give Robert Malone time on their show to present a contrasting viewpoint...would people have been cool with that arrangement?

 
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