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Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected: ‘I’d have no problem with it’

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Well now, who can doubt the authenticity of an email from "▆▆▆▆▆▆".
So it doesn’t matter “what’s in the files”?

Thanks for taking the time to disregard them so completely.
 
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Only half of the six million documents have been released. For some reason.
Then why did you say that questioning one document means completely disregarding the files?

Is it an all or nothing rule? If you question the authenticity of what was written by "█████████" in one out of six million documents, you've disregarded the complete kit and kaboodle?
 
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Well now, who can doubt the authenticity of an email from "▆▆▆▆▆▆".

I wonder who is in charge of the administration and who's protecting the people mentioned?
 
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I wonder who is in charge of the administration and who's protecting the people mentioned?
Protecting them from what? How is what's claimed in the email any worse than the recorded bus conversation?

Someone please tell me that's not the most damaging thing that was found in the Epstein files.
 
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I wonder who is in charge of the administration and who's protecting the people mentioned?
What I don’t understand is why anyone would not want to be able to examine any and all information that pertains to what potential child rapists did on Child Rape Island.
 
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What I don’t understand is why anyone would not want to be able to examine any and all information that pertains to what potential child rapists did on Child Rape Island.

Well, there's a long history of questions regarding Epstein and what happened on his island. A still unanswered question is how could someone on sucide watch in a Donald Trump Justice Department cell not be checked on for three hours and have the cameras watching him conveniently fail at the same time.
 
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What I don’t understand is why anyone would not want to be able to examine any and all information that pertains to what potential child rapists did on Child Rape Island.
What can anyone do about it outside the justice department, and why is it important to us regular people at all?

...I'm not against freedom of speech and information, but gaining information, to possibly shame perpetrators or their families seems unnecessary. Releasing these formerly confidential documents seems...unnecessary.

...But we do live in the time of cancel-culture, and radicalized political activism, so maybe we ought to look at ourselves, and judge what we're doing. Right now.
 
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Well now, who can doubt the authenticity of an email from "▆▆▆▆▆▆".
According to the law, only victims' names are to be redacted. No one else, regardless of station, was to be so protected. So is your take that you don't believe the words of a victim who was on Donald Trump's plane, or you think the DOJ is disobeying the law?
 
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According to the law, only victims' names are to be redacted. No one else, regardless of station, was to be so protected. So is your take that you don't believe the words of a victim who was on Donald Trump's plane, or you think the DOJ is disobeying the law.
Not according to what I read about it. Redacting the name of someone who is not a victim is optional, not required. The DOJ would not be breaking the law by doing so, but the Transparency Act does not mandate it.

Not that it matters since the email doesn't say anything of significance.
 
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What can anyone do about it outside the justice department, and why is it important to us regular people at all?

...I'm not against freedom of speech and information, but gaining information, to possibly shame perpetrators or their families seems unnecessary.
Yeah, can't have our betters feeling shame over raping children.
 
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Not according to what I read about it. Redacting the name of someone who is not a victim is optional, not required. The DOJ would not be breaking the law by doing so, but the Transparency Act does not mandate it.

(1) No record shall be withheld, delayed, or redacted on the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official, public figure, or foreign dignitary.

(1) The Attorney general may withhold or redact the segregable portions of records that—

(A) contain personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy;
(B) depict or contain child sexual abuse materials (CSAM) as defined under 18 U.S.C. 2256 and prohibited under 18 U.S.C. 2252–2252A;
(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
(D) depict or contain images of death, physical abuse, or injury of any person; or
(E) contain information specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order.

(2) All redactions must be accompanied by a written justification published in the Federal Register and submitted to Congress. [they have not done this]
 
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funny how the, "Every trans is a pedophile." crowd no longer cares about them, heres my hot take, investigate and charge them all, bill gates, bill clinton, hilary throw the book at them along with banon, trump and musk. Everyone here complaining these files was likely and a few I know, were all for releasing the files and going after it when it was democrats they thought be in there. Now that it's not just democrats, "Well we can't trust it." thats why you investigate, which I don't trust the people in power to do.
 
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(1) No record shall be withheld, delayed, or redacted on the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official, public figure, or foreign dignitary.

(1) The Attorney general may withhold or redact the segregable portions of records that—

(A) contain personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy;
(B) depict or contain child sexual abuse materials (CSAM) as defined under 18 U.S.C. 2256 and prohibited under 18 U.S.C. 2252–2252A;
(C) would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary;
(D) depict or contain images of death, physical abuse, or injury of any person; or
(E) contain information specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order.

(2) All redactions must be accompanied by a written justification published in the Federal Register and submitted to Congress. [they have not done this]
That doesn't say that the person who sent that email must be a victim since the name was redacted. And again, it doesn't matter because the content of the email doesn't contain anything of significance.
 
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And again, it doesn't matter because the content of the email doesn't contain anything of significance.
Hard to say whether it's significant, but it lends credence to the proposition that Trump and Melania first met in circumstances within Epstein's orbit and Epstein's claim that Trump and Melania first 'closed the deal' on the Lolita Express.
 
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Hard to say whether it's significant, but it lends credence to the proposition that Trump and Melania first met in circumstances within Epstein's orbit and Epstein's claim that Trump and Melania first 'closed the deal' on the Lolita Express.
I remember flying back with Donald on his plane the first weekend I went to visit you in Florida was the weekend he met Melania and he kept on coming out of the bedroom saying...

Was Donald's plane the Lolita Express? But even still, what's significant about that? It's common knowledge that Trump and Epstein were friends in 1998.
 
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I remember flying back with Donald on his plane the first weekend I went to visit you in Florida was the weekend he met Melania and he kept on coming out of the bedroom saying...

Was Donald's plane the Lolita Express?
Perhaps the Lolita Express is how Donald and Melania arrived at Epstein's place in Florida. And then went back on his own plane.
But even still, what's significant about that?
Well, I realize nobody cares about adultery any more, especially for presidents.
It's common knowledge that Trump and Epstein were friends in 1998.
We might have to turn to the conspiracy string board, but the suggestion (by Alan Dershowitz) that Epstein had intelligence connections with a foreign power, and that warranted a light sentence for his procuring minors charge. Add in a dash of people in Epstein's circle making meetings happen between foreign models and rich and influential Americans. And what might that spell?
 
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