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ICE WARS: Minneapolis Insurgents Set Up Barricades; Block Cars, Run License Plates, Check IDs

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Call them militias or whatever you wish, these people want mob rule, they don't care for the laws on the books and are not willing to go through the democratic process in our country to change those laws. In my opinion what drives them is hate for our country, a country they view as being systemically racist and an oppressor of minorities. To me we are the country that conquered slavery, an institution which was present for thousands of years. Also in my opinion America's success is because our country recognized from the beginning that our rights come from God. You can bet these agitators want to pack the Supreme Court and institute other takeover methods as well. While law enforcement is a current focus I expect the targets will be broadened.
 

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Call them militias or whatever you wish, these people want mob rule, they don't care for the laws on the books and are not willing to go through the democratic process in our country to change those laws. In my opinion what drives them is hate for our country, a country they view as being systemically racist and an oppressor of minorities. You can bet they want to pack the Supreme Court and institute other takeover methods as well. While law enforcement is a current focus I expect the targets will be broadened.
Now to our "legal experts" in the comments where they just point the finger at Trump.
 
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Story scores a red 72 on RageCheck.

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Notice how 'insurgents' appears repeatedly - this military term makes neighborhood activists sound like armed rebels

The headline uses 'ICE WARS' to frame a local dispute as dramatic conflict, priming you for outrage before reading

The article lets inflammatory quotes do heavy lifting while the publication's own word choices reinforce one interpretation

VIRAL TRIGGERS​


People alarmed by perceived lawlessness will share to show 'what's happening in Democrat cities'

Those who support immigration enforcement will share to express frustration at perceived obstruction
 
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I know these neighborhood watch groups mean well, but they really can't block streets like that without a permit from the city. I hope they receive a proper remonstration from local authorities and learn how to harass ICE without causing legal issues.
 
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Call them militias or whatever you wish, these people want mob rule, they don't care for the laws on the books and are not willing to go through the democratic process in our country to change those laws. In my opinion what drives them is hate for our country, a country they view as being systemically racist and an oppressor of minorities. To me we are the country that conquered slavery, an institution which was present for thousands of years. Also in my opinion America's success is because our country recognized from the beginning that our rights come from God. You can bet these agitators want to pack the Supreme Court and institute other takeover methods as well. While law enforcement is a current focus I expect the targets will be broadened.
This is exactly what 2A is all about. Standing up to Tyranny.

All the Right have ever seemed to do is stand up to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

I’m here all night; don’t forget to tip the waitress.
 
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This is exactly what 2A is all about. Standing up to Tyranny.

All the Right have ever seemed to do is stand up to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

I’m here all night; don’t forget to tip the waitress.
Does nobody proofread anymore?
 
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Story scores a red 72 on RageCheck.

TECHNIQUES DETECTED​


Notice how 'insurgents' appears repeatedly - this military term makes neighborhood activists sound like armed rebels

The headline uses 'ICE WARS' to frame a local dispute as dramatic conflict, priming you for outrage before reading

The article lets inflammatory quotes do heavy lifting while the publication's own word choices reinforce one interpretation

VIRAL TRIGGERS​


People alarmed by perceived lawlessness will share to show 'what's happening in Democrat cities'

Those who support immigration enforcement will share to express frustration at perceived obstruction
Call them agitators, they are violating the law and abusing the rights of others. I'm comfortable with calling them a militia. And it's much more than a local dispute:
https://www.npr.org/2026/01/31/nx-s...al-action-against-federal-immigration-tactics.
What's comes along with many of these people is an attitude that they know best. They are very much against open debate or different viewpoints, you see this on college campuses where they run speakers with different political views off of campus. The use of violence does not seem to be a problem for many because they "know" they are right. As I've pointed out, the tactics are similar to those of Palestinians who threw rocks at Israeli troops. They try and push as much as they can, the predictable outcome to do so with 63 bullets and a gun, or to use a car to ram a government vehicle or ICE personnel (one or the other has been done about a hundred times) is that eventually someone will be injured or killed. After years of similar conflict our country fought a Civil War. That "we are right" attitude was expressed in the Fort Pillow Massacre.
 

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Call them agitators, they are violating the law and abusing the rights of others. I'm comfortable with calling them a militia. And it's much more than a local dispute:
https://www.npr.org/2026/01/31/nx-s...al-action-against-federal-immigration-tactics.
I see people disagreeing with how the Law is being enforced.
This is “normal”.


What's comes along with many of these people is an attitude that they know best. They are very much against open debate or different viewpoints, you see this on college campuses where they run speakers with different political views off of campus.
They’re “very much against…different viewpoints” by holding a viewpoint different than yours?
The rhetoric needs work.


The use of violence does not seem to be a problem for many because they "know" they are right. As I've pointed out, the tactics are similar to those of Palestinians who threw rocks at Israeli troops. They try and push as much as they can, the predictable outcome to do so with 63 bullets and a gun, or to use a car to ram a government vehicle or ICE personnel (one or the other has been done about a hundred times) is that eventually someone will be injured or killed. After years of similar conflict our country fought a Civil War. That "we are right" attitude was expressed in the Fort Pillow Massacre.
Your link doesn’t support your accusation of violence being used, as you asserted.
 
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I’m here all night; don’t forget to tip the waitress.

Ten Quid seems fair.

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Call them militias or whatever you wish, these people want mob rule, they don't care for the laws on the books and are not willing to go through the democratic process in our country to change those laws. In my opinion what drives them is hate for our country, a country they view as being systemically racist and an oppressor of minorities. To me we are the country that conquered slavery, an institution which was present for thousands of years. Also in my opinion America's success is because our country recognized from the beginning that our rights come from God. You can bet these agitators want to pack the Supreme Court and institute other takeover methods as well. While law enforcement is a current focus I expect the targets will be broadened.
This is the left in this country today. Chaos and Lawlessness. The police should be there and arresting every one of them. What they are doing is illegal.

The insanity is real.
 

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Does nobody proofread anymore?
It was a play on the word tyranny and the target of the right’s ire a year or two ago.

I thought it was hilarious but the filter says no.
 
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I know these neighborhood watch groups mean well, but they really can't block streets like that without a permit from the city. I hope they receive a proper remonstration from local authorities and learn how to harass ICE without causing legal issues.
I agree.
 
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How about, let people do their job, and leave them alone? And no, I’m not referring to corrupt ICE agents who have done immoral things.
 
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How about, let people do their job, and leave them alone? And no, I’m not referring to corrupt ICE agents who have done immoral things.
Per google Gemini:

Is interfering with ICE agents a crime?

Yes, interfering with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agents can be a serious federal crime.Because ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers, actions that obstruct their work fall under several federal statutes.
 

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I know these neighborhood watch groups mean well, but they really can't block streets like that without a permit from the city. I hope they receive a proper remonstration from local authorities and learn how to harass ICE without causing legal issues.
I don't think they "mean well", they mean to intimidate. They're lucky they haven't been ran over yet.

Not to mention, what mechanisms would they even have for vetting people at their makeshift "checkpoints" lol.

What, are the hooked into the state DMV?

Oddly enough, Renee Good wouldn't have been able to pass their checkpoint as a result of having Colorado plates and ID.


Plus, not sure who else noticed this bit of irony on their sign
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So one of their tactics has been to honk their horns and make a bunch of noise when ICE is trying to do something, but for their thing "Hey, don't honk the horns please, it's loud, keep it down, I'm trying to focus here and it's giving me a headache"


Given that this is the gateway pundit reporting this...I'm sure this is being exaggerated and is probably just 5-6 idiots doing this and it's not happening at scale, but seriously, they're going to get hurt as soon as they try to stop the wrong car.
 
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I wondered how police responded. Of the roadblock in the OP CBS news says

“The approach to managing traffic was short-lived as the Minneapolis Public Works and police cleared debris and homemade roadblocks.

“A city spokesperson said in a statement on Monday, "Given the high-traffic and high-speed block of roadways on Cedar Ave., the City cleared the streets to ensure public safety for the neighborhoods and emergency vehicles."”


If you read the whole article pointed to by the OP, you'll see police responding, despite claims in some articles that they didn't respond. The article also says police were working with ICE.

There's a mention of 4 locations, but no indication whether police responded to others. You'd assume so.
 
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