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Trump Warned of a Tren de Aragua ‘Invasion.’ US Intelligence Told a Different Story

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While senior administration officials portrayed TdA as a centrally directed terrorist network active across American cities, internal tasking directives and threat assessments repeatedly cite “intelligence gaps” in understanding how the group operated on US soil: Whether it had identifiable leadership, whether its domestic activity reflecting any coordination beyond small local crews, and whether US-based incidents pointed to foreign direction or were simply the work of autonomous, profit-driven criminals.

The documents, marked sensitive and not intended for public disclosure, circulated widely across intelligence offices, law-enforcement agencies, and federal drug task forces throughout the year. Again and again, they flag unresolved questions about TdA’s US footprint, including its size, financing, and weapons access, warning that key estimates—such as the number of members operating in the US—were often inferred or extrapolated by analysts due to a lack of corroborated facts.

Together, the documents show a wide gap between policy-level rhetoric and on-the-ground intelligence at the time. While senior administration officials spoke of “invasion,” “irregular warfare,” and “narco-terrorism,” field-level reporting consistently portrayed Tren de Aragua in the US as a fragmented, profit-driven criminal group, with no indication of centralized command, strategic coordination, or underlying political motive. The criminal activity described is largely opportunistic—if not mundane—ranging from smash-and-grab burglaries and ATM “jackpotting” to delivery-app fraud and low-level narcotics sales.
 
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It seems liberals support criminals in the many threads used against bad Trump. If you look at the definition of terrorist, they sorta fit in, so what's so bad about calling them terrorists?

By definition, some acts of protest can be considered terrorism.
 
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It seems liberals support criminals in the many threads used against bad Trump.
I'm supporting factual accuracy. Calling a horse's tail a leg doesn't make it one.
By definition, some acts of protest can be considered terrorism.
Conflating protest with terrorism is dangerous. And false.
 
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I'm supporting factual accuracy. Calling a horse's tail a leg doesn't make it one.

Conflating protest with terrorism is dangerous. And false.
Not when there is violence and property damage. Only peaceful, non violent protest is protected by the constitution.
 
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Not when there is violence and property damage. Only peaceful, non violent protest is protected by the constitution.

And if it gets outta hand, the President can issue pardons.

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So you are ok with protests that turn violent? Do you think that the constitution protects violence?
The Constitution gives the president the power to protect violent protestors.
 
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The Constitution gives the president the power to protect violent protestors.
That’s not what I posted or asked. Do you agree with violent protests regardless of what party? Is violence protected by the constitution?
 
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That’s not what I posted or asked. Do you agree with violent protests regardless of what party?
Of course not. We can distinguish between protests and riots.
 
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Of course not. We can distinguish between protests and riots.
And yet violence is accepted by the left and the right but primarily by the left these days.
 
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And yet violence is accepted by the left and the right but primarily by the left these days.
Neither 'The Left' or 'The Right' is some kind of monolith of uniformity. There were thousands in downtown LA protesting ICE on Friday. By evening, there were dozens clashing with police. And 8 arrests.
 
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It's quite fascinating how the USA has merged their war on drugs, war on terrorism and war on crime into one giant chimera that can be applied to anything from foreign governments that have something the USA wants to local protestors of the government's actions. Even hinting at this approach not being sensible gets you labeled as sympathising with the targets of this war on everything, if not being a target yourself.
 
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America was birthed in violence. Still, everyone should prefer to stay in the legal boundaries. In alot of the immigration grievances the court has yet to rule.

I do think too that in many American cases, violence does serve as a deterrent to an overly aggressive government. Often when the government fights it, they just inflame the whole situation. The approval rating of ICE is going down. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ecord-low-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2026-01-26/
Why be so aggressive? Sure there is a group that hates foreigners, wants all of them out. Reagan's amnesty though worked out OK. Trump needs to ratchet down the tension because the reality is that the lack of public support is going to undermine Trump's policies and the next President will be a democrat.
 
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So you are ok with protests that turn violent? Do you think that the constitution protects violence?

I think the government should pepper spray women and then disarm anyone who tries to help them and shoot them in the back like a puppy in the street.
 
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That’s not what I posted or asked. Do you agree with violent protests regardless of what party? Is violence protected by the constitution?
Do you agree with violent suppression of protests regardless of what party?

Is violence protected by the constitution? You know some is and some ain't. Violence by the state towards individuals is more accepted than violence by the individual towards the state, but even then there are restrictions (not always honored).
 
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I think the government should pepper spray women and then disarm anyone who tries to help them and shoot them in the back like a puppy in the street.
Shouldn't that be "like a puppy in the gravel pit"?
 
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