Man shot by federal agents in Minneapolis has died, police chief tells CNN. DHS says suspect was armed

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:44:05-0600

FreeinChrist said:
Spreading lies is spreading lies. I was criticizing the content of your post. IF you wish to discuss this further, send a pm or start a ticket. You know where.

pm's and tickets are useless ventures, I've learned that numerous times, so I'll let it rest here.

GoldenBoy89 · 2026-01-26T10:45:52-0600

Aryeh Jay said:
And also preventing the release of the Epstein files because of all the violence from the other side.

It’s also distracting from the fact that at a year in, the tariffs haven’t delivered any new manufacturing jobs or lowered prices for consumers (quite the opposite) or produced any substantial trade deals with China, Canada or Europe but our friends on the right don’t seem to care as long as they keep demonizing, terrorizing and antagonizing immigrants and every left leaning person in the country.

GoldenBoy89 · 2026-01-26T10:47:28-0600

Always in His Presence said:
pm's and tickets are useless ventures, I've learned that numerous times, so I'll let it rest here.

Why did you put a laughing emoji on my post? There’s nothing funny there. Please take it down.

Danthemailman · 2026-01-26T10:47:43-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
Didn’t your side win? Aren’t you getting everything you voted for?

How are y’all still so mad?

Trump still has a huge mess to clean up after four years under the Biden administration.

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:48:22-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
Why did you put a laughing emoji on my post? There’s nothing funny there. Take it back or I’ll report you.

Sorry - hit wrong one. I'm sure others have done the same.

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:49:34-0600

Always in His Presence said:
hmmm... I have NEVER called you a liar - I have too much respect for your position -

When you Disagree:

Members who participate in the American Politics forum are expected to treat one another with courtesy and respect at all times, ESPECIALLY when you disagree with each other.

When you disagree, address the context of the post and not the poster.

When you disagree with someone's position, you should post evidence and supporting statements for your position. This policy, sometimes referred to as "X means Y because of Z", must be followed especially when posting claims that are widely considered to be controversial.

When you disagree and you find yourself becoming frustrated and angry, step away from the computer and give yourself time to cool down.

Can I kindly request that a senior member of the Advisory Team follow the forum rules - Not a complaint - an inquiry. Members tend to follow leadership.

@iluvatar5150 Why did you put a laughing emoji on my post? There’s nothing funny there. Take it back or I’ll report you.

GoldenBoy89 · 2026-01-26T10:49:44-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Sorry - hit wrong one. I'm sure others have done the same.

No harm no foul.

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:50:40-0600

Always in His Presence said:
YES he did, the video along with a second one from the same side of the street show him fighting with the officers. He fires a shot that cause the officers to jump back and they RETURNED fire killing him.

@camille70 - Why did you put a laughing emoji on my post? There’s nothing funny there. Take it back or I’ll report you.

GoldenBoy89 · 2026-01-26T10:50:52-0600

Danthemailman said:
Trump still has a huge mess to clean up after four years under the Biden administration.

Yeah but how are you guys still so worked up over everything? Did you think everyone was just going to fall in line?

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:52:56-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
No harm no foul.

Thanks, I hope it works the same when I request it.

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T10:53:15-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Care to share a link showing Many Republicans calling for an investigation.

I already posted one. But here is more:

Republicans Call for Investigation Into Minneapolis Shooting

"The credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake," said one Republican lawmaker after federal agents fatally shot a second U.S. citizen.

time.com

Despite Trump’s remarks blaming Democrats for the “chaos” in Minneapolis, a growing number of lawmakers within his own party have splintered from his rhetoric. They are instead calling for a “transparent” investigation into the latest Minneapolis shooting and a hard look into the tactics being used by federal agents.

Here are some of the Republicans who are taking that stance:

Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska

Lisa Murkowski, who is part of a bipartisan effort alongside Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire to introduce a bill to block Trump from taking over Greenland, has called for a “comprehensive, independent investigation” in order to “rebuild trust.”

She said the fatal shooting “should raise serious questions within the Administration about the adequacy of immigration-enforcement training and the instructions officers are given on carrying out their mission.”.....

Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana

Bill Cassidy, who serves on the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, described the events in Minneapolis as “incredibly disturbing” and said the “credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake” following the shooting.

“There must be a full joint federal and state investigation. We can trust the American people with the truth,” he urged, echoing Walz's assertion that the state must be involved in any official reviews of the incident.

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine

Susan Collins, chair of the Appropriations Committee, issued a statement calling for the “tragic” shooting to be “thoroughly and transparently investigated to determine whether or not excessive force was used in a situation that may have been able to be diffused without violence.”

Joining the growing number of Republicans to raise concerns about ICE training, she said the shooting “further underscores the importance of equipping federal law enforcement agents with training and body cameras for their safety and the safety of the public.”...

Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina

Thom Tillis called for a “thorough and impartial” investigation into the incident and stepped away from issuing blame at Democratic leadership.

He said a full investigation is the “basic standard that law enforcement and the American people expect following any officer-involved shooting” and urged for transparency between “federal, state, and local law enforcement.”....

Sen. Pete Ricketts of Nebraska

“The nation witnessed a horrifying situation this weekend,” said Pete Ricketts......

Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas....

Gov. Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma .....

Gov. Phil Scott of Vermont

Phil Scott called the killing in Minneapolis unacceptable.....

enough?

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T10:59:38-0600

FreeinChrist said:
I already posted one. But here is more:

Republicans Call for Investigation Into Minneapolis Shooting

"The credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake," said one Republican lawmaker after federal agents fatally shot a second U.S. citizen.

time.com

Despite Trump’s remarks blaming Democrats for the “chaos” in Minneapolis, a growing number of lawmakers within his own party have splintered from his rhetoric. They are instead calling for a “transparent” investigation into the latest Minneapolis shooting and a hard look into the tactics being used by federal agents.

Here are some of the Republicans who are taking that stance:
Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Lisa Murkowski, who is part of a bipartisan effort alongside Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire to introduce a bill to block Trump from taking over Greenland, has called for a “comprehensive, independent investigation” in order to “rebuild trust.”

She said the fatal shooting “should raise serious questions within the Administration about the adequacy of immigration-enforcement training and the instructions officers are given on carrying out their mission.”.....

Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
Bill Cassidy, who serves on the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, described the events in Minneapolis as “incredibly disturbing” and said the “credibility of ICE and DHS are at stake” following the shooting.

“There must be a full joint federal and state investigation. We can trust the American people with the truth,” he urged, echoing Walz's assertion that the state must be involved in any official reviews of the incident.

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine
Susan Collins, chair of the Appropriations Committee, issued a statement calling for the “tragic” shooting to be “thoroughly and transparently investigated to determine whether or not excessive force was used in a situation that may have been able to be diffused without violence.”

Joining the growing number of Republicans to raise concerns about ICE training, she said the shooting “further underscores the importance of equipping federal law enforcement agents with training and body cameras for their safety and the safety of the public.”...

Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
Thom Tillis called for a “thorough and impartial” investigation into the incident and stepped away from issuing blame at Democratic leadership.

He said a full investigation is the “basic standard that law enforcement and the American people expect following any officer-involved shooting” and urged for transparency between “federal, state, and local law enforcement.”....

Sen. Pete Ricketts of Nebraska
“The nation witnessed a horrifying situation this weekend,” said Pete Ricketts......

Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas....
Gov. Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma .....
Gov. Phil Scott of Vermont
Phil Scott called the killing in Minneapolis unacceptable.....

enough?

yes they are calling for an investigation - so is the Trump DOJ - so are the leaders of ICE(you would have seen that is the video I posted)

There is always an investigation after a shooting.

Are you making the gross assumption that the calling for an investigation automatically means malfeasance?

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T11:01:04-0600

some more:

Republican calls are growing for a deeper investigation into the fatal Minneapolis shooting

A growing number of Republicans are pressing for a deeper investigation into federal immigration tactics after a U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot a man in Minneapolis

abcnews.go.com

A growing number of Republicans are pressing for a deeper investigation into federal immigration tactics in Minnesota after a U.S. Border Patrol agent fatally shot a man in Minneapolis, a sign that the Trump administration's accounting of events may face bipartisan scrutiny.

House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Andrew Garbarino sought testimony from leaders at Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, saying “my top priority remains keeping Americans safe.”......

In a social media post, the National Rifle Association said “responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonizing law-abiding citizens.”

Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., who is often critical of the White House, said “carrying a firearm is not a death sentence.”

“It's a Constitutionally protected God-given right,” he said, "and if you don’t understand this you have no business in law enforcement or government.

essentialsaltes · 2026-01-26T11:01:27-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Are you making the gross assumption that the calling for an investigation automatically means malfeasance?

She answered your question.

Always in His Presence said:
Care to share a link showing Many Republicans calling for an investigation.

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T11:16:17-0600

Always in His Presence said:
yes they are calling for an investigation - so is the Trump DOJ - so are the leaders of ICE

There is always an investigation after a shooting.

Are you making the gross assumption that the calling for an investigation automatically means malfeasance?

Some investigation so far. They are excluding the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Local police said they are doing a very unprofessional job of it, leaving the scene compromised after a brief collection of evidence. The BCA and the state AG fear that ICE will destroy evidence.
They went to a judge:

Federal judge orders ICE, DHS not to destroy or alter evidence in Minneapolis shooting

The BCA says it obtained a search warrant for the scene but its investigative team was blocked by federal agents from accessing the area.

www.themorningsun.com

A federal judge has granted a temporary restraining order brought by Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison against the Department of Homeland Security and other government agencies, preventing them from altering or destroying evidence related to the fatal shooting Saturday of Alex Pretti by DHS agents in Minneapolis.

U.S. District Judge Eric C. Tostrud granted the order late Saturday filed by Ellison on behalf of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office.

As ICE agents killed Alex Pretti, the investigation needs to imclude other agencies like is usually done and not be just ICE.

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T11:19:36-0600

Always in His Presence said:
yes they are calling for an investigation - so is the Trump DOJ - so are the leaders of ICE(you would have seen that is the video I posted)

There is always an investigation after a shooting.

Are you making the gross assumption that the calling for an investigation automatically means malfeasance?

Then why did you ask for a link?
You asked a question and I answered it.

And while there is always an investigation after a shooting, this one is suspect as I already posted. There are calls for a deeper investigation. I already posted the link.

Always in His Presence · 2026-01-26T11:21:03-0600

essentialsaltes said:
She answered your question.

Thank you, gosh I had not noticed.

FreeinChrist said:
Some investigation so far. They are excluding the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Local police said they are doing a very unprofessional job of it, leaving the scene compromised after a brief collection of evidence. The BCA and the state AG fear that ICE will destroy evidence.
They went to a judge:

Federal judge orders ICE, DHS not to destroy or alter evidence in Minneapolis shooting

The BCA says it obtained a search warrant for the scene but its investigative team was blocked by federal agents from accessing the area.

www.themorningsun.com

A federal judge has granted a temporary restraining order brought by Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison against the Department of Homeland Security and other government agencies, preventing them from altering or destroying evidence related to the fatal shooting Saturday of Alex Pretti by DHS agents in Minneapolis.

U.S. District Judge Eric C. Tostrud granted the order late Saturday filed by Ellison on behalf of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office.

As ICE agents killed Alex Pretti, the investigation needs to imclude other agencies like is usually done and not be just ICE.

A simple check in our friendly AI

Question - when a federal officer is involved in a shooting, who has jurisdiction to investigate.

1. Primary Criminal Investigation

FBI

The FBI is typically the lead investigative agency for shootings involving federal officers, especially if:
- A federal officer discharged a weapon
- A federal officer was assaulted or killed
- Federal criminal statutes may apply

The FBI investigates on behalf of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ).

2. Prosecution Decision

U.S. Attorney’s Office (DOJ)

The U.S. Attorney for the district decides whether federal charges will be brought.
DOJ reviews the facts, use-of-force policies, and applicable law.

3. Agency Internal Investigation

Office of Inspector General (OIG) or Internal Affairs

Most federal agencies (FBI, ICE, ATF, DEA, etc.) have an OIG or internal affairs unit.
This review is administrative, not criminal:
- Policy compliance
- Training issues
- Disciplinary action (if warranted)

This can happen simultaneously with the FBI investigation.

4. State and Local Jurisdiction

State or Local Prosecutors may also have authority

If the shooting violates state law, local or state authorities can:
- Investigate independently
- Bring state charges
This is called concurrent jurisdiction.
In practice, agencies often coordinate to avoid conflict.

essentialsaltes · 2026-01-26T11:28:44-0600

Always in His Presence said:
4. State and Local Jurisdiction

If the shooting violates state law, local or state authorities can:

Investigate independently

Bring state charges

This is called concurrent jurisdiction.

Always in His Presence said:
In practice, agencies often coordinate to avoid conflict.

Not anymore.

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T11:28:50-0600

However the Minnesota police have pointed out the poor job ICE did with the scene and left it compromised. That would affect the investigation by others. And usually local police are involved

FreeinChrist · 2026-01-26T11:32:01-0600

This was already posted in this thread, but is needed here:

Minnesota Police Accuse ICE, In Court, of Destroying Shooting Evidence: Update TRO Granted!

“the federal government appears to have taken measures that directly led to the destruction of evidence.” This statement is from a remarkable court filing last night requesting a Temporary Restraining Order against the federal government. The motion...

www.dailykos.com

Further, the BCA believes federal officers already seized and removed evidence from the scene: “federal personnel may have seized cell phones, taken other evidence from the scene, and detained witnesses.” The filing then makes this stunning allegation:

“Then just a few hours after the shooting, federal personnel left, allowing the perimeter to collapse and potentially spoiling evidence. From a law enforcement perspective, this is astonishing. The federal government’s actions are a sharp departure from normal best practices and procedure, in which every effort is taken to preserve the scene and the evidence it contains. Instead, by first attempting to bar BCA and then letting the scene collapse, the federal government appears to have taken measures that directly led to the destruction of evidence.”

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