Peace in Christ.
The scoffers (when they will hear the Word of Truth) shall come and say “where is the promise of His PRESENCE”? The Greek word is “Parousia” which means presence.
We are to receive the promise of His presence in this earthen vessel…in our mortal bodies now in this earth…. so that the people of the outside world who are sitting in deep spiritual dark may “see” Him shine through us. They will see the glory of God shine upon us and will then praise Him above.
His arriving presence in this earthen vessel gives our mortal bodies an age-lasting life so that we never mortally die. We shall continue to live in this earth to the last day of this age when this mortal body shall be changed into immortal thereby circumventing death completely in Christ Jesus. We shall stay alive and remaining here in this earth and will not mortally perish.
2Pe 3:3-9 KJV
(3) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Yet the unbelievers in the man-based churches who will hear this will reason in their unbelief : Since the church fathers fell asleep (mortally died), all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
Where is the promise of His presence since all have died just as they did from the beginning of creation?
(4) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming (PRESENCE)? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
(5) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
(6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But they do not know (being willingly ignorant) that they are under the judgment of God now (just as the old world was flooded back then) as His wrath is revealed (PRESENT TENSE) from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold down the truth in unrighteousness
Romans 1: 18 - For the wrath of God is revealed (present tense) from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
The heavens and the earth WHICH ARE NOW are stored with fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men who mortally perish under His wrath.
(7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
(8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
His wrath is revealed by our mortal perishing from this earth. He is not willing that any of His people should mortally perish but that all should come to change their minds.
What we have witnessed so far in Christian history is His wrath coming upon all those before us who did not do His will. In contrast, whosoever will DO the will of God ABIDES here in this earth into the age.
1Jn 2:17
(17) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth into the age.
They …the Christians before us who have not done His will….have been the vessels of His wrath….the generation of wrath…the flock of the slaughter. They had not changed their minds about these things and have mortally perished.
His longsuffering toward us is our salvation as He gives us time to come to repentance and not mortally perish. He does not destroy us immediately as He graciously is patient with us.
(9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
He has endured with MUCH LONGSUFFERING the vessels of His wrath who all have mortally perished because they held down the truth in their unrighteousness. By their unrighteousness, the truth was not known by them.
Rom 9:21-24
(21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
(22) If God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
What we have witnessed so far were/are the vessels of His wrath so that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of His mercy which are prepared unto glory as His glory shall be revealed upon us to this dark world. These vessels of mercy are the 144,000….the house of Jacob.....who shall show forth His glory to this world.
(23) And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
(24) Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
The “generation of His wrath” has been rejected and forsaken because they do not obey…that is, to hear intelligently….His voice …nor did they receive correction.
And so the truth is perished from this earth. It is cut off from their mouth. Their pastors are not preaching the truth of the gospel as the truth is cut off from their mouth. His presence is not being made manifest through them as they have no understanding.
Jer 7:28-29 KJV
(28) But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.
(29) Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.
Jer 7:23-24 KJV
(23) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
(24) But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
The gospel is being hid to them that are currently mortally PERISHING.
2Co 4:3-5 KJV
(3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost (PERISHING)
(4) In whom the god of this world (age) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
(5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
The unbelievers of the truth will turn their ears away from hearing it. They will not hear and believe but will instead listen to their false teachers who will instruct them to behave in unrighteousness towards the hearing of the truth. They will not receive the love of the truth and be saved but will listen to their false teachers.
2Ti 4:2-4 KJV
(2) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The scoffers (when they will hear the Word of Truth) shall come and say “where is the promise of His PRESENCE”? The Greek word is “Parousia” which means presence.
We are to receive the promise of His presence in this earthen vessel…in our mortal bodies now in this earth…. so that the people of the outside world who are sitting in deep spiritual dark may “see” Him shine through us. They will see the glory of God shine upon us and will then praise Him above.
His arriving presence in this earthen vessel gives our mortal bodies an age-lasting life so that we never mortally die. We shall continue to live in this earth to the last day of this age when this mortal body shall be changed into immortal thereby circumventing death completely in Christ Jesus. We shall stay alive and remaining here in this earth and will not mortally perish.
2Pe 3:3-9 KJV
(3) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
Yet the unbelievers in the man-based churches who will hear this will reason in their unbelief : Since the church fathers fell asleep (mortally died), all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
Where is the promise of His presence since all have died just as they did from the beginning of creation?
(4) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming (PRESENCE)? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
(5) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
(6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But they do not know (being willingly ignorant) that they are under the judgment of God now (just as the old world was flooded back then) as His wrath is revealed (PRESENT TENSE) from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold down the truth in unrighteousness
Romans 1: 18 - For the wrath of God is revealed (present tense) from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
The heavens and the earth WHICH ARE NOW are stored with fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men who mortally perish under His wrath.
(7) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
(8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
His wrath is revealed by our mortal perishing from this earth. He is not willing that any of His people should mortally perish but that all should come to change their minds.
What we have witnessed so far in Christian history is His wrath coming upon all those before us who did not do His will. In contrast, whosoever will DO the will of God ABIDES here in this earth into the age.
1Jn 2:17
(17) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth into the age.
They …the Christians before us who have not done His will….have been the vessels of His wrath….the generation of wrath…the flock of the slaughter. They had not changed their minds about these things and have mortally perished.
His longsuffering toward us is our salvation as He gives us time to come to repentance and not mortally perish. He does not destroy us immediately as He graciously is patient with us.
(9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
He has endured with MUCH LONGSUFFERING the vessels of His wrath who all have mortally perished because they held down the truth in their unrighteousness. By their unrighteousness, the truth was not known by them.
Rom 9:21-24
(21) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
(22) If God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
What we have witnessed so far were/are the vessels of His wrath so that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of His mercy which are prepared unto glory as His glory shall be revealed upon us to this dark world. These vessels of mercy are the 144,000….the house of Jacob.....who shall show forth His glory to this world.
(23) And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
(24) Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
The “generation of His wrath” has been rejected and forsaken because they do not obey…that is, to hear intelligently….His voice …nor did they receive correction.
And so the truth is perished from this earth. It is cut off from their mouth. Their pastors are not preaching the truth of the gospel as the truth is cut off from their mouth. His presence is not being made manifest through them as they have no understanding.
Jer 7:28-29 KJV
(28) But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.
(29) Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.
Jer 7:23-24 KJV
(23) But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
(24) But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
The gospel is being hid to them that are currently mortally PERISHING.
2Co 4:3-5 KJV
(3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost (PERISHING)
(4) In whom the god of this world (age) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
(5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
The unbelievers of the truth will turn their ears away from hearing it. They will not hear and believe but will instead listen to their false teachers who will instruct them to behave in unrighteousness towards the hearing of the truth. They will not receive the love of the truth and be saved but will listen to their false teachers.
2Ti 4:2-4 KJV
(2) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.